BringBackOrton Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Pay particular attention to section C,D and I. At virtually every major sporting event the flag is flown horizontally. Ever seen a guy in an American Flag shirt or how about a flag on a beer can? According to the code all are disrespectful. §176. Respect for flag No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor. (a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property. (b) The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise. © The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free. (d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general. (e) The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way. (f) The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling. (g) The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature. (h) The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything. (i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown. (j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart. (k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning. Flown horizontally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Flown horizontally? Y'know, instead of obliquely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 You just gave the evidence he is being blackballed So to recap, they'll take back a good player who literally killed dogs for money...they'll take back a good player guy who is on video beating his girl...they'll take back a good player who was involved in a double murder... But they won't take back a bad player who simply opted out of his contract and would not stand for the anthem. I see your reading comprehension isn't better on this side of the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 I guess rather than initially asking him a question I would pop in a VHS (or DVD) recording of the 2016 Bills vs Niners game in Buffalo and then ask him exactly how we are supposed to take his talents seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 If they act like adults, the first question from the NFL is, "What can we do, together and collectively and appropriately, do to support the cause of civil rights, social equity, and social equality that does not include kneeling during the anthem." And Kaep should say "Open you wallets, start investing more in the cities you extract profit from. When you've taken billions in direct tax dollars to build stadiums and then used those stadiums to further extract profit from the region, you should think about using a small amount of that to support the people who root for us and support this league." Sensible people from this starting point can work toward a mutually agreeable solution that a) avoids turning what is not an "anthem protest" (no one is protesting the anthem, stop it) into a continual hot button issue that sadly continually included the doophus at 1200 Pennsylvania Ave and b) gets the NFL and its players a place and platform to actually develop programs and contribute, and c) gets Kaep a place to air his point, make amends with the league, and get a job back. Sounds like one of the better ides already. democratic society demand dialogue and discourse, and disagreements are welcome. but working these matters out is what founded our government. Not taking a side and sticking to it, just because. Not backing any one person here. I am backing all of us. and again. no one is disrespecting. A Democratic Society welcomes folks who feel injustice has darkened the Goals our Forefathers and many since then have worked tirelessly to uphold, to be allowed to speak their grievances. and we all should listen I am sure i appear to have taken a side, but i do not mean to. I just love my Country and how it came to be. It will always be hard work to exemplify freedom and justice for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I guess rather than initially asking him a question I would pop in a VHS (or DVD) recording of the 2016 Bills vs Niners game in Buffalo and then ask him exactly how we are supposed to take his talents seriously. Maybe...when's the last time you actually studied a playbook or a game plan? That was draw plays in the dirt quarterbacking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 Maybe...when's the last time you actually studied a playbook or a game plan? That was draw plays in the dirt quarterbacking...Yep...that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) So, Mr. Quarterback, can you please explain to me what you saw in the defense on this play? https://i.imgur.com/PlhTN4G.png https://i.imgur.com/PlhTN4G.png Edited October 26, 2017 by dayman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Y'know, instead of obliquely. is that a cross between vertical and horizontal. x axis y axis z axis Planes of existence are fabricated via 5 axis machines these days. not your 1967 Bridgeport Manual Mill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 So to recap, they'll take back a good player who literally killed dogs for money...they'll take back a good player guy who is on video beating his girl...they'll take back a good player who was involved in a double murder... But they won't take back a bad player who simply opted out of his contract and would not stand for the anthem. I see your reading comprehension isn't better on this side of the board. They take back starters, players who will help you win ballgames, not back ups that will be a sideshow and a distraction. You're a coach, your job is on the line. Why take a guy who won't start and cause you all sorts of non-football grief. He had a job and a contract and walked. Good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I'd tell him to !@#$ off. I don't speak with people who disrespect my flag and anthem. Tell me. How long have you owned each? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Tell me. How long have you owned each? And furthermore, what gives him ownership of each? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Tell me. How long have you owned each? We all own it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 They take back starters, players who will help you win ballgames, not back ups that will be a sideshow and a distraction. You're a coach, your job is on the line. Why take a guy who won't start and cause you all sorts of non-football grief. He had a job and a contract and walked. Good riddance. That's one of the thing that kills me about the argument: everyone claiming as evidence that Kaep's being blackballed the fact that teams won't even sign him as a backup. WHY ON EARTH WOULD ANYONE SIGN KAEP AS A BACKUP? You'd be signing a guy who thinks he should be a starter, creating an instant QB controversy. You end up paying a lot of money for a backup who's "starting caliber." You have to put up with whatever other controversy he brings along. And everyone claiming he's being blackballed by the league will still claim he's being blackballed because he wasn't signed as a starter. I actually had someone make the argument that Kaepernick was being blackballed because the Bills signed Joe Webb instead of Kaep. Because of course you're going to sign a well-known player as a fourth-string QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Flown horizontally? Yes, when they have a giant flag that they have a bunch of people flap "horizontally". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 “So, did your head make it in thru the door OK? No, not the Afro, your big head with your inflated opinion of your ability.” If you’re not a true #1, don’t act like you should be given the slack of a top 5 guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) What I would ask: Has your protest had the intended effect of placing focus on concerns you raised or have those concerns been overshadowed by a discussion about your form of protest or your NFL employability? Has your lawsuit against the NFL put even more distance between you and your original intention? Edited October 26, 2017 by SinceThe70s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Y'know, instead of obliquely. Oh that is just so funny. Apparently you have never seen a group of people holding and flapping a giant American flag, as is if flowing in the wind whilst parallel to the earth. In order for it to be "oblique" on side of "flappers" would need to be taller than the other side. I believe you missed the point, which had to do with hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 AGAIN: Chris Long is The MAN! How many realize he has committed very game check this year to help those who have needs funding education. If he is NOT the NFL Man of the Year, I want to know why! He's playing for free for an entire year and not creating ANY controversy or generating divisiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I'd tell him to !@#$ off. I don't speak with people who disrespect my flag and anthem. Imma go out on a limb and guess that you talk to a lot of people that probably do, but because you disagree with this ones politics you are making it a sacred line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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