reddogblitz Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Interestingly, there are a lot more black quarterbacks than there are white Cornerbacks, and it ain't even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Can it simply mean that black QBs are more athletic than white QBs? That how I always took it. This is an advantage imo. Rodgers can't run like Tyrod. Pocket passers are known for staying in the pocket because they can't do what Tyrod does. Why is this a negative thing? I wish it wasn't because the label part is partially accurate imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 (edited) Actually, as Josh, the editor stated,that wasn't the entire interview. We took an interesting quote to discuss which itJosh didn't appreciate. Although, the writer of the actual story thought that was a pretty major takeaway, enough to push the entire story with a tweet about 'being a black QB.' So, I think that about covers it. Kimberley A. Martin @KMart_BN 44m44 minutes agoMore Sat down w/ Tyrod Taylor during the bye week. We talked about his haters, his motivators + being a black/mobile QB the media likes to stir the pot, push narratives for low hanging fruit (selling the sins, if you will) and panders to those which will obviously seek this material out to use it to further embolden their beliefs, create more dissension and most importantly be able to produce another headline. His words cut to the heart of the hypocrisy behind the labeling of Newton as overly emotional and a sore loser, while Tom Brady and Rivers’ on-field antics are celebrated as passionate competitiveness. i mean, this is what the buffalo news chose to do and i won't bother reading billswire because its likely worse. but that is just pure shittastic journalism. that's throwing **** at the wall with no basis. tom brady is a sore loser, i've seen him called that, and i call him that. i call cam newton a sore loser. and i don't know much about rivers to give two *****. but journalism about #feelings make you snowflake media become Tim Graham-ishly silly. Newton noted in January 2016 that much of the public scrutiny he faced was rooted in the fact that he “may scare a lot of people” as an African-American quarterback “because they haven’t seen nothing they can compare me to.” And this past week, Taylor voiced similar truths. The Bills starter pointed out that while Aaron Rodgers and Derek Carr are mobile quarterbacks in their own right, it was Wilson and Newton who had to shoulder the responsibility of proving they didn’t belong in “a specific box.” newton, a great sources for this information as he has shown to be an idiot. newton, who just a few weeks ago made one of the stupidst comments to a woman you could imagine. now he's getting praised because he #feels something ridiculous like this? the charlotte media and panther fanbase love that man that he could do no wrong. what about michael vick, too? doug flutie? why not mention those two? there have been many mobile quarterbacks. why didn't the BN or anyone question taylor on his idiotic comment there - because flutie was as OG black as any mofo on the street, yo. The Bills starter pointed out that while Aaron Rodgers and Derek Carr are mobile quarterbacks in their own right, it was Wilson and Newton who had to shoulder the responsibility of proving they didn’t belong in “a specific box.” “They claim that we’re not that accurate from the pocket. I’m not sure why,” Taylor says, before adding of Rodgers and Carr: “Even though they’re ‘mobile’ guys, they don’t necessarily take on the same criticism as others. It probably is unfair.” But life isn’t fair. And Taylor knows that, too. there is a !@#$ton of crictism on carr. but he's new, and can't even enter this discussion from my take. but rodgers, brady, wilson, these guys he mention win things. they can get away with their style of play when it wins. it has nothing to do with their skin color. football fans will cheer a man who killed toddlers the night before the big game. being "probably" unfair is such a cop out and real journalists would have pressed him on this and not done an Oprah softball to the dude. still, no matter how well he might play, he knows a subsection of Bills fans will continue clamoring for his backup, rookie Nathan Peterman, or the next unproven commodity from the college ranks. of course there will be a subsection of those fans when you are a mediocre quarterback. there are fans who want all sorts of things because we want a better team and obviously he isn't the very best. this is also a great fluff line from a journalist. look, i can appreciate good journalism but when it is shaped to a **** piece like this its a joke. go, media, go... go to hell with this crap. ------------ edit ok, i read the bills wire piece. took 90 seconds, so i didn't lose anything of value. but, take a look at this beatuy of a line. According to Pro Football Reference, Taylor has the most rushing yards (1,269) among quarterbacks since 2015. Only four of the top 10 quarterbacks in rushing yardage since 2015 are African-American, so Taylor makes a valid point. that's something a 7th grade debate team would tear in to and ask... since 2015, how many black QB's has there been? because, that sort of matters. also, what about games played and not played? bridgewater was hurt, otherwise he'd likely be there. 11 and 12 are black on that list and only 8 qb's on that list are black in total. also, change your data up to include any qb to start a game in that time. 70 qb's 18 black dude in there, and one johnathon manziel. so... your data that concludes every qb for whatever reason focused on 2015 ( sure taylors first year, but in a vacuum everything is cute for journalism) makes taylor among the minority at the position when only 4 of the top ten passers in the league are rushing as much as he is? i mean, waht the hell does that even mean? hell, only half of those qb's in the top 10 are bona fide career starters. i could go on and on with this tearing you and this article to shreds as being nothing more than terrible journalism but i will hold back because it won't matter with you disagreeing on anything because it doesn't fit the agenda of poor garbage. 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Lurker Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 And Nobody talks about Russell Wilson this way, because he's a pocket passer, and a great quarterback. Last time I checked, the dude was black. Yada, yada, yada.... https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24765777/reports-some-teammates-think-qb-russell-wilson-isnt-black-enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Here we go with the racial BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Interestingly, there are a lot more black quarterbacks than there are white Cornerbacks, and it ain't even close. Fair point. Stereotypes and race based generalizations reach out in all directions.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 the media likes to stir the pot, push narratives for low hanging fruit (selling the sins, if you will) and panders to those which will obviously seek this material out to use it to further embolden their beliefs, create more dissension and most importantly be able to produce another headline. i mean, this is what the buffalo news chose to do and i won't bother reading billswire because its likely worse. but that is just pure shittastic journalism. that's throwing **** at the wall with no basis. tom brady is a sore loser, i've seen him called that, and i call him that. i call cam newton a sore loser. and i don't know much about rivers to give two *****. but journalism about #feelings make you snowflake media become Tim Graham-ishly silly. newton, a great sources for this information as he has shown to be an idiot. newton, who just a few weeks ago made one of the stupidst comments to a woman you could imagine. now he's getting praised because he #feels something ridiculous like this? the charlotte media and panther fanbase love that man that he could do no wrong. what about michael vick, too? doug flutie? why not mention those two? there have been many mobile quarterbacks. why didn't the BN or anyone question taylor on his idiotic comment there - because flutie was as OG black as any mofo on the street, yo. there is a !@#$ton of crictism on carr. but he's new, and can't even enter this discussion from my take. but rodgers, brady, wilson, these guys he mention win things. they can get away with their style of play when it wins. it has nothing to do with their skin color. football fans will cheer a man who killed toddlers the night before the big game. being "probably" unfair is such a cop out and real journalists would have pressed him on this and not done an Oprah softball to the dude. of course there will be a subsection of those fans when you are a mediocre quarterback. there are fans who want all sorts of things because we want a better team and obviously he isn't the very best. this is also a great fluff line from a journalist. look, i can appreciate good journalism but when it is shaped to a **** piece like this its a joke. go, media, go... go to hell with this crap. Ooooooooooooooooooooh kill 'em boyst! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 QBs in general are held to an insanely high standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 John believes that Usain Bolt has unfairly struggled against the stereotype that Jamaicans are fast his whole life. Bolt didn't actually win those races. That was just everyone's misguided and prejudiced perception because he's black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 QBs in general are held to an insanely high standard. well, that's obvious and anyone with half a brain knows this. sadly, some look for any reason to find a cop out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott, even Jamies Winston are not categorized by race at all because theyre playing ability transcend any other category.... Let's be honest - Winston is a terrible quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 What I don't get is there are countless white QB's who get criticism heaped on them for many of the same things. Nobody claims that it is because of their race. When a black QB is criticized why is it because of their race? Tyrod, you ARE a mobile QB. One of the most mobile QB's in the game. It's a fact. You aren't incredibly accurate. Not inaccurate, but not super accurate either. Just a fact. These facts have nothing to do with race. These facts are said about many white players too, when they are true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 (edited) Fair point. Stereotypes and race based generalizations reach out in all directions....I saw a program on NFL Network. They were talking to a retired coach and he said they don't even consider white guys for CB. Goes down to the college and high school level. They didn't consider Jason Seahorn until the coach they were talkng to saw him play basketball and realized he had the necessary skills. Blacks are 20% of the population. So there should be 6 black starting QBs in the NFL. I can think of 7. Hotrod, Russell Wilson, Jameis, Cam, Dak Attack, Kizer, and Watson. So actually, they are over represented. Edited October 14, 2017 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Let's be honest - Winston is a terrible quarterback. Naw, he's ok. He just likes to throw it to the other team too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I recently took a dna ancestry test. Guess what? I'm 1.2% victim!! Raising my fist daily now and pulling out the racial/victim card because now that I'm 1.2% victim....I can!!! Can't wait to make more money and start my own protest AND make excuses for my performance because of my newly found race! Booya!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Aaron Rogers's is considered mobile Aaron Rogers is everything!!!! TTs name shouldn't bet in the same thread as Aaron. Week in and week out teams put a defense out on the field that challenge the Bills to throw and TT cant beat them with his arm. Im not down on TT but he is an average QB in the NFL at best, and if he wasnt mobil he would be out of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 http://billswire.usatoday.com/2017/10/14/bills-tyrod-taylor-believes-hes-held-to-a-higher-standard-because-hes-african-american/ Last year it was the media's fault when he sucked. Now he's being held to higher standard because he's black ? He almost makes as many excuses as the fanatical taylorheads here. Try not being at the bottom of qb ranking lists. Leave the race nonsense alone. "Haters" disappear when you're actually good at your craft like Cam, Jameis, Watson, and Wilson. Message to Tyrod: your lack of production, lack of reading defenses, and area code accuracy have nothing to do with the color of your skin- but rather the fact that you are a bottom tier QB...if Tom Brady were putting up your numbers I would be saying the same thing about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Nail, meet coffin. Taylor will be gone next season. Unperforming is one thing but to bring race into the equation is foolish and has no merit. If he had 1600 yards, 12 TDs would he say it's because I'm a black QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Nail, meet coffin. Taylor will be gone next season. Unperforming is one thing but to bring race into the equation is foolish and has no merit. If he had 1600 yards, 12 TDs would he say it's because I'm a black QB? Who's to say? But if he said the same thing with those numbers, why would it be anything different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Who's to say? But if he said the same thing with those numbers, why would it be anything different? Because he wouldn't have haters calling him a bad passer because he's black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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