Tell us what you really think, Shady...

[jimmy10]

Most crooks, cheats, and sociopaths wind up in jail...not the White House. What a load of politically biased bull **** spewing from your mouth. Support your country and its citizens, by supporting the man ELECTED by the people...and leave your uninformed prejudices at the door. Libtard whiney baby bull **** has no place in a sports forum

Sounds like you need a space where you can feel safe. You know, a safe space.

[boyst]

I'm scared of what he could do now. I'm baffled that we've come to this and keep hoping I wake up to find out this was all a bad dream (and that it's Super Bowl 52 Sunday and the Bills are about to do something which will earn a visit to a president whose name is not Trump). I grew up in NYC (my family was from Lockport and i wound up going to UB during the SB years) and it was that ad that cemented him as, well to paraphrase the man himself, someone who was "not good." I wish this thread didn't exist and that McCoy would never have felt any need to respond to a man who made it very clear he has zero respect for people who do his job (seriously, who's against the NFL trying to figure out ways to make sure fewer players die young).

 

Not sure how to end this...just saying I agree.

if you are scared of Trump than I truly am baffled.

 

Name me 3 of your county board, please. The mayor of your town, please. And your two state senators?

Sounds like you need a space where you can feel safe. You know, a safe space.

sports used to be that place. Used to be the place where I could talk to anyone from all walks of life about that 3pt shot to win the game. That idiot kicker missing the point, the wreck in Nascar.

 

But now you can't do that. Now that space is gone and more and more an agenda dictates a wedge being brought between us all.

 

Further, it is funny how the liberals took the term snowflake to their own definition without getting the irony of the term.

Edited September 23, 2017 by Boyst62

[Kelly the Dog]

every president for the last 300 years has thought tbis.

No but seriously at least the last dozen or so. It's scary how powerful that office has become over the last 12 years

Very true. The others were sevens or eights though and Agent Orange is a ten or eleven and I didn't think eleven was possible.

[MichFan]

I'm more worried about what happens after the National Anthem. Wish our players were too. Especially after the turd bomb the offense dropped last week.

[Kelly the Dog]

when he chose to run as a republican was a pretty neat change.

He wasn't a democrat all those years either. He was always a trumpian.

[boyst]

He wasn't a democrat all those years either. He was always a trumpian.

he contributions show otherwise, as well as speaking engagements

[purple haze]

I don't have a comment on this until

1) Jimmy tells me what to think

2) lebron tells me what to think

3) stephon curry tells me what to think

4) mccoy tells me what to think.

 

 

i cannot form an original thought until some entitled !@#$ thinks. mccoy included.

 

these athletes need to learn to shut the hell up and play.

 

 

 

further.

i wonder what curt schilling is up to? what about all those who opposed obama and did not want to go see that !@#$?

Trump is the Rex Ryan of President's. Both men of a certain mindset, arrogant, big on talk with little results. He's a solid fool. The reasons are many. He's the Wizard of Oz losing that curtain by the minute.

[boyst]

Very true. The others were sevens or eights though and Agent Orange is a ten or eleven and I didn't think eleven was possible.

personal opinion but I think the last two were dialed in to 10.

[White Linen]

I can just feel the awareness from the kneeling bringing the country together.

[Kelly the Dog]

Further, it is funny how the liberals took the term snowflake to their own definition without getting the irony of the term.

It's funnier how the (alleged) conservatives and republicans all seemed to turn into the whiny bitches that made them hate the liberal whiny bitches in the first place. Worse in fact because it's slightly more hypocritical.

he contributions show otherwise, as well as speaking engagements

That's a bad argument. The city and state was run by them. He contributed to them to help himself not their causes. So of course he did that more.

[cba fan]

This is the day Shady McCoy truly became the President.

Yeah I can see it now. Shady will move capital back to Philly and hold press conferences in obscure bars at 3 am. while drinking Cristal.

[boyst]

It's funnier how the (alleged) conservatives and republicans all seemed to turn into the whiny bitches that made them hate the liberal whiny bitches in the first place. Worse in fact because it's slightly more hypocritical.

the biggest indictment to this issue is the truth that it is fringe.

 

With only speculation I imagine it is less than 25% of the left or right really believe this is something to garner attention. While even fewer still see it as a priority.

 

I'm fairly certain without evidence to support this bexuase I'm too lazy to look that 80% of the public feels this issue is a non issue in the grand scheme for things compared to other greater issues like Best Korea, Brexit, finance reform, torte reform, Covfefe and Sasquatch.

[thurst44]

 

Wait, Kaepernik was doing these protests prior to Trump. So it doesn't fit that narrative.

 

You are full of ****

Um, huh? Trump just said that they should fire players for taking a stand, and I've seen some say the Bills should drop McCoy for his tweet. The protest is not all about Trump, but he made a comment that is very dangerous for a democracy. Fair enough, the protest isn't just against him, but it is about the politics he (likely blindly) embodies and supports, and considering his m.o. he is surely so vain, he probably DOES think these protests are about him. Either way, it still is pretty crazy for the President to call for private entities to fire its employees for protesting to try to change the country.

 

You're the one who is full of asterisks. Also, nyah nyah and some other childish retort.

[boyst]

Yeah I can see it now. Shady will move capital back to Philly and hold press conferences in obscure bars at 3 am. while drinking Cristal.

McCoy/Booker 2020

 

In all seriousness one day p Diddy will run

[Kelly the Dog]

Before the Mods move this to the PPP I will put in a vote not to move it. It's about the Bills and Shady and an NFL thing. Sure it goes off the reservation a lot but most threads on here do. You don't move threads that devolve into cooking recipes to the food forum. This allows posters who not dare tread into PPP or don't know about it to voice their opinions on the topic in hand, which is, ahem, the nuclear football.

[thurst44]

Trump is the Rex Ryan of President's. Both men of a certain mindset, arrogant, big on talk with little results. He's a solid fool. The reasons are many. He's the Wizard of Oz losing that curtain by the minute.

Well said!

[nedboy7]

Shady is right. He isnt the !@#$. Well actually he isnt the only ahole lets say. Id love to see some of you idiots tell him in person to shut the hell up and play. Some of you haters need to shut the hell up and go to work. This idea that a man cant speak his mind no matter how stupid he is needs to end.

Edited September 23, 2017 by nedboy7

[boyst]

Before the Mods move this to the PPP I will put in a vote not to move it. It's about the Bills and Shady and an NFL thing. Sure it goes off the reservation a lot but most threads on here do. You don't move threads that devolve into cooking recipes to the food forum. This allows posters who not dare tread into PPP or don't know about it to voice their opinions on the topic in hand, which is, ahem, the nuclear football.

I would pin a thread that all things that relate to this not be in this board. It's been abysmal to the health of the board.

 

Not to mention if they don't go to PpP because they don't know about it not only will they fit in with Tiberius they have no reason to talk about their #feelings on it.

 

This being in this board gets ignored by those wishing to seriously engage the conversation because of past issues of punishment. The Beerball escapade was difficult when this topic first came up and persecution occured due to personal beliefs.

 

You can't have a serious conversation here on politics. This isn't the place

[nedboy7]

Yeah I can see it now. Shady will move capital back to Philly and hold press conferences in obscure bars at 3 am. while drinking Cristal.

 

He would make a more mentally stable president. And to be honest he seems to be an idiot.

Edited September 23, 2017 by nedboy7

[boyst]

Shady is right. He isnt the !@#$. Id love to see some of you idiots tell him in person to shut the hell up and play. Some of you haters need to shut the hell up and go to work.

trust me. I'd have no problem saying it.

 

And I'd tell mccoy to do what you just said. Shut up and go to work

 

My God you're dense to just simply throw that last line in there.

[Prickly Pete]

if you are scared of Trump than I truly am baffled.

 

Name me 3 of your county board, please. The mayor of your town, please. And your two state senators?

sports used to be that place. Used to be the place where I could talk to anyone from all walks of life about that 3pt shot to win the game. That idiot kicker missing the point, the wreck in Nascar.

 

But now you can't do that. Now that space is gone and more and more an agenda dictates a wedge being brought between us all.

 

Further, it is funny how the liberals took the term snowflake to their own definition without getting the irony of the term.

 

I have been asking people to give me defined answers about what they think will happen due to Trump's leadership.

 

Prior to the election, all I heard about was

 

"Mass deportations of immigrants" (didn't happen)

"Concentration camps" (haha, yeah, didn't happen)

"Crazed white nationalist death squads, attacking Muslims" (hasn't happened)

"Martial Law" (hasn't happened)

"War with Russia" (Ironic, no?)

"Roe-Wade overturned" (I haven't even seen abortion talked about).

 

I also forgot, "A rise in rapes and sexual assaults" (didn't happen)

 

Oh, another one "A rise in arrests of black men, and increased police violence against minorities" (hasn't happened)

 

 

 

It's all media induced hysteria.

 

 

So please, someone give me a solid answer, and tell me some awful things that will happen, and then it can be decided if they are worthy of the hysteria.

Edited September 23, 2017 by OJABBA

[thurst44]

McCoy/Booker 2020

 

In all seriousness one day p Diddy will run

Kanye West might be more likely (although if it's Diddy v. West for a leadership position, I'd vote Diddy -- or write in Talib Kweli).

 

Why are you bringing Corey into this ? He once bought me and my partner popcorn at a midnight screening of the second Apes movie, so he's got my vote in my book. And if McCoy can get rebound to get 1500 yards and we get a playoff berth, I could get behind this ticket.

[Marv's Neighbor]

I really don't care about player's views on this or that. They are employees, and as such are there to do a very well paying job, and should leave their individual "views" at home.

 

Two things I learned, at a very young age were; respect, and time and place. Treat others with respect, and recognize the time and place where you choose to demonstrate your views. If you're not respectful, and what you are saying/doing is not appropriate to the time or place, then you keep quiet!

 

The NFL should have taken care of this a long time ago. Once they see that Fans don't accept the "on field" displays, and they see all the empty seats, maybe they will figure it out?

 

Going to games is so expensive, that it won't take long for people/fans, to decide to spend their money, and their time doing something else.

[Kelly the Dog]

I would pin a thread that all things that relate to this not be in this board. It's been abysmal to the health of the board.

Not to mention if they don't go to PpP because they don't know about it not only will they fit in with Tiberius they have no reason to talk about their #feelings on it.

This being in this board gets ignored by those wishing to seriously engage the conversation because of past issues of punishment. The Beerball escapade was difficult when this topic first came up and persecution occured due to personal beliefs.

You can't have a serious conversation here on politics. This isn't the place

But there are endless threads you don't wish to participate in that are Bills related so you don't. You have the same option here.

[Kmart128]

Wish Shady would just keep his mouth shut on the issue... you may not like Trump but he is 100% right on this issue. Im all for free speech but the NFL is a business. Its a job. We dont go to our jobs and start a protest during work hours... if we did that we would get fired just like players in the NFL should.

 

I dont agree with their position but they have right to believe what they want and express themselves but should do it on their own time. Not at work. Its very unprofessional.

[Prickly Pete]

Wish Shady would just keep his mouth shut on the issue... you may not like Trump but he is 100% right on this issue. Im all for free speech but the NFL is a business. Its a job. We dont go to our jobs and start a protest during work hours... if we did that we would get fired just like players in the NFL should.

 

I dont agree with their position but they have right to believe what they want and express themselves but should do it on their own time. Not at work. Its very unprofessional.

 

Exactly.

[Clyde Smith]

I really don't care about player's views on this or that. They are employees, and as such are there to do a very well paying job, and should leave their individual "views" at home.

 

Two things I learned, at a very young age were; respect, and time and place. Treat others with respect, and recognize the time and place where you choose to demonstrate your views. If you're not respectful, and what you are saying/doing is not appropriate to the time or place, then you keep quiet!

 

The NFL should have taken care of this a long time ago. Once they see that Fans don't accept the "on field" displays, and they see all the empty seats, maybe they will figure it out?

 

Going to games is so expensive, that it won't take long for people/fans, to decide to spend their money, and their time doing something else.

It's two sides to a coin. Some of the empty seats are from fans Who AGREE with the athlete's protests and the blackballing of Kaep.

[BigAL]

 

 

The NFL should have taken care of this a long time ago. Once they see that Fans don't accept the "on field" displays, and they see all the empty seats, maybe they will figure it out?

 

 

Perhaps the NFL and the Federal government should not have gotten into a multi million dollar partnership to promote the military through phony patriotic displays forcing the players out onto the field while the anthem is played. Greed on the NFL part, and manipulation on the governments part to get more of our young people to sign up for never ending wars. Now it's bitten them in the butt.

[Clyde Smith]

Perhaps the NFL and the Federal government should not have gotten into a multi million dollar partnership to promote the military through phony patriotic displays forcing the players out onto the field while the anthem is played. Greed on the NFL part, and manipulation on the governments part to get more of our young people to sign up for never ending wars. Now it's bitten them in the butt.

Well said!!

[Prickly Pete]

Perhaps the NFL and the Federal government should not have gotten into a multi million dollar partnership to promote the military through phony patriotic displays forcing the players out onto the field while the anthem is played. Greed on the NFL part, and manipulation on the governments part to get more of our young people to sign up for never ending wars. Now it's bitten them in the butt.

 

yep.

[Kelly the Dog]

yep.

 

By agreeing with that aren't you then giving the players the right to poke their heads into the politics that the NFL has poked their heads into?

[boyst]

By agreeing with that aren't you then giving the players the right to poke their heads into the politics that the NFL has poked their heads into?

hahahah. I await his response eagerly

[Clyde Smith]

**Crickets**

[ThunderGun]

but when you resort to those comments don't you become one yourself?

and if you support those comments just because you agree with him aren't you in effect one also?

 

 

No? You can tell it like it is. Put your big boy pants on, they're just words...

[Best Player Available]

what ever happened to respect and dignity when disagreeing with someone.

 

IDK ask POTUS about that. He is the King of asswhipes who disrespect anyone and everyone. . And I am a conservative.

[purple haze]

Wish Shady would just keep his mouth shut on the issue... you may not like Trump but he is 100% right on this issue. Im all for free speech but the NFL is a business. Its a job. We dont go to our jobs and start a protest during work hours... if we did that we would get fired just like players in the NFL should.

 

I dont agree with their position but they have right to believe what they want and express themselves but should do it on their own time. Not at work. Its very unprofessional.

Shady is within his rights to say what he wants to say. Players can kneel if they so choose. The constitution protects that right. A private employer, likewise, can fire those people.

 

1. Trump is the President, not a private employer. The First Amendment allows protest without persecution from government. Trump is the head of the federal government in the United States, thusly, his call to fire people goes against the grain of his office. If he were more intelligent he would understand that and watch his words.

 

2. Professional athletics I is not a "normal" job. It is a job of elite specialization. Therefore, the employees have more power. Kaepernick made the mistake of opting out of his deal before surveying the landscape.

 

3. Trump's fast tongue and slow intellect causes more issues than it solves. I would expect many protests tomorrow that wouldn't have happened if he would stop trying to be Lord of the Flies at every "rally".

[BuffAlone]

Haha!! Im sure you would talk about supporting the President if Hillary won.

 

But I will give the Head Cheeto credit for one thing. The way he reads news headlines and caters to his base is impressive. His sheep stay loyal.

 

So you have nothing. Good stuff.

I would actually support Clinton to an extent, although i'd disagree with most of her policies. Im definately no sheep either. Im grown. I can read. I can understand policy.Im capable of taking all pertinent information available and making an unbiased decision without just clinging to a specific party for the sake of doing so. Thanks for proving my point that people can just assume something blindly.

That said, I am Pro Citizen. Not linked to ANY party. Merely linked to individual person/policy. Regardless of party affiliation

[Johnny Hammersticks]

Shady is within his rights to say what he wants to say. Players can kneel if they so choose. The constitution protects that right. A private employer, likewise, can fire those people.

1. Trump is the President, not a private employer. The First Amendment allows protest without persecution from government. Trump is the head of the federal government in the United States, thusly, his call to fire people goes against the grain of his office. If he were more intelligent he would understand that and watch his words.

2. Professional athletics I is not a "normal" job. It is a job of elite specialization. Therefore, the employees have more power. Kaepernick made the mistake of opting out of his deal before surveying the landscape.

3. Trump's fast tongue and slow intellect causes more issues than it solves. I would expect many protests tomorrow that wouldn't have happened if he would stop trying to be Lord of the Flies at every "rally".

Solid post, man.

[thurst44]

Wish Shady would just keep his mouth shut on the issue... you may not like Trump but he is 100% right on this issue. Im all for free speech but the NFL is a business. Its a job. We dont go to our jobs and start a protest during work hours... if we did that we would get fired just like players in the NFL should.

 

I dont agree with their position but they have right to believe what they want and express themselves but should do it on their own time. Not at work. Its very unprofessional.

What is the protest disrupting? Also, Trump isn't 100% right and didn't say what you are implying. He CALLED for them to be fired. If Roger Goodell or Terry or Kim Pegula said a player will be fired if they protest, that's a different story...it would be unfortunate but not illegal. However, the most powerful person in the country calling for a private entity to fire a private citizen is different and to me it's disturbing. If Obama did something like this (and as someone pointed out in this thread, while calling me a profanity, Kaep has protested Obama too), I would have been reconsidering my vote.

 

Also, all businesses are different. At my first real job, one employee wore a Dennis Kucinich shirt all day and politicked for him throughout the office, and he kept his job and no one thought he might do any different. Then again, at that same company, an entertainment company, the CFO sent out a letter in early 2001 to everyone to protest Bush's "illegitimate" presidency, so it might not be representative. I don't think I've worked a job yet where I would be fired if I stood on my desk and said something like "I am protesting this country and will be giving a speech at the beginning of every work week to convince the rest of you that we should do more to prevent police brutality, especially against one group of people."

[Johnny Hammersticks]

I have been asking people to give me defined answers about what they think will happen due to Trump's leadership.

 

Prior to the election, all I heard about was

 

"Mass deportations of immigrants" (didn't happen)

"Concentration camps" (haha, yeah, didn't happen)

"Crazed white nationalist death squads, attacking Muslims" (hasn't happened)

"Martial Law" (hasn't happened)

"War with Russia" (Ironic, no?)

"Roe-Wade overturned" (I haven't even seen abortion talked about).

 

I also forgot, "A rise in rapes and sexual assaults" (didn't happen)

 

Oh, another one "A rise in arrests of black men, and increased police violence against minorities" (hasn't happened)

 

 

 

It's all media induced hysteria.

 

 

So please, someone give me a solid answer, and tell me some awful things that will happen, and then it can be decided if they are worthy of the hysteria.

This is what we have lowered our standards to? What's the worst that could happen? Haha. God help us all.