Tell us what you really think, Shady...

[thurst44]

Shady is within his rights to say what he wants to say. Players can kneel if they so choose. The constitution protects that right. A private employer, likewise, can fire those people.

 

1. Trump is the President, not a private employer. The First Amendment allows protest without persecution from government. Trump is the head of the federal government in the United States, thusly, his call to fire people goes against the grain of his office. If he were more intelligent he would understand that and watch his words.

 

2. Professional athletics I is not a "normal" job. It is a job of elite specialization. Therefore, the employees have more power. Kaepernick made the mistake of opting out of his deal before surveying the landscape.

 

3. Trump's fast tongue and slow intellect causes more issues than it solves. I would expect many protests tomorrow that wouldn't have happened if he would stop trying to be Lord of the Flies at every "rally".

Man, for the embodiment of a Jimi Hendrix song that is also a slang for reefer, you are really hitting it out of the park.

Edited September 23, 2017 by thurst44

[GoBills808]

This is what we have lowered our standards to? What's the worst that could happen? Haha. God help us all.

I know that's how I like to judge the president...'Hey, he hasn't done anything REALLY terrible yet!'

[YoloinOhio]

Lebron wants in on the action!

 

@kingjames

U bum @StephenCurry30 already said he ain't going! So therefore ain't no invite. Going to White House was a great honor until you showed up!

[RaoulDuke79]

 

LOL I was trying to come up with a good response without it getting political, but this is perfect.

 

I'm with Shady. And I hope every Bills player - black and white - take a knee on Sunday.

 

Hopefully it's to kill the clock in the 4th quarter.

Edited September 23, 2017 by RaoulDuke79

[SectionC3]

if you are scared of Trump than I truly am baffled.

Name me 3 of your county board, please. The mayor of your town, please. And your two state senators? sports used to be that place. Used to be the place where I could talk to anyone from all walks of life about that 3pt shot to win the game. That idiot kicker missing the point, the wreck in Nascar.

But now you can't do that. Now that space is gone and more and more an agenda dictates a wedge being brought between us all.

Further, it is funny how the liberals took the term snowflake to their own definition without getting the irony of the term.

It's interesting that you refer to sports as a safe place. I am a lawyer, and there were times in my career I would sit at an NFL game and be thrilled with the fact that for three hours nobody could bother me. So I get that side of things.

 

I also see, however, how sports may be for change. Jackie Robinson, Mexico City Olympics, and Billie Jean King. I'm with you to the extent that you wish that we can just talk about football watch football on Sunday and not think about anything else. I guess maybe this is another one of those sports/culture convergences. And I also guess it's what I signed up for when I start living and dying with sports. Somewhere, sometime, I was going to have my Jackie Robinson, Mexico City moment etc.

[Fadingpain]

For those of you wondering how it is that an intelligent nation like Germany could elect a man like Hitler to power...

 

You are living through the same sort of movement in this country with Trump. Take notes.

 

It's frightening as all hell, and creepy.

[oldmanfan]

because Kimmel was way off in his statements and excised an opinion that knew very little on the subject matter just as these athletes do.

 

If we want political mumbo-jumbo we turn to the Maddows, carlsons, blitzers, etc.

 

We want sports and we want to laugh. We don't need a barrage of Media group think when it's shown most disagree with the statements.

Actually he was spot on about the proposed legislation. I work in health care and we have been following it closely.

 

As for Shady's comments, he and other athletes, trash collectors, doctors, anyone has the right to speak out and how much money one makes has nothing to do with that right. You and others forget this country was founded by people who moved here to escape religious persecution and then a century and some years later fought a war against rulers who did not want the colonists to have such rights.

 

I stand for the Anthem. And I also understand the flag and the values it represents stand for supportin mg people's rights and not taking them away. We have a president who has no idea of why this country was founded and what individual rights under the constitution mean. He spouts off jingoistic nonsense so scared people applaud him and thus feed his enormous ego.

[BringBackOrton]

For those of you wondering how it is that an intelligent nation like Germany could elect a man like Hitler to power...

 

You are living through the same sort of movement in this country with Trump. Take notes.

 

It's frightening as all hell, and creepy.

Imagine thinking this in 2017.

[boyst]

It's interesting that you refer to sports as a safe place. I am a lawyer, and there were times in my career I would sit at an NFL game and be thrilled with the fact that for three hours nobody could bother me. So I get that side of things.

 

I also see, however, how sports may be for change. Jackie Robinson, Mexico City Olympics, and Billie Jean King. I'm with you to the extent that you wish that we can just talk about football watch football on Sunday and not think about anything else. I guess maybe this is another one of those sports/culture convergences. And I also guess it's what I signed up for when I start living and dying with sports. Somewhere, sometime, I was going to have my Jackie Robinson, Mexico City moment etc.

this is the 21st century in Murica. Ain't nobody being repressed.

 

I'd have more sympathy for this cause if it were trannies up there kneeling for tranny rights but only because mental health is still neglected and prejudiced in this country

[Prickly Pete]

This is what we have lowered our standards to? What's the worst that could happen? Haha. God help us all.

haha, that's not what I said. Read it again.

 

I'm asking you what you expect to happen,that is worthy of the kind of hysteria we are seeing?

By agreeing with that aren't you then giving the players the right to poke their heads into the politics that the NFL has poked their heads into?

 

No, I'm not. Tell me how I implied that?

[boyst]

For those of you wondering how it is that an intelligent nation like Germany could elect a man like Hitler to power...

 

You are living through the same sort of movement in this country with Trump. Take notes.

 

It's frightening as all hell, and creepy.

godwins law Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law.

 

 

Finally.

 

Fin

 

/Thread!!!

[GoBills808]

this is the 21st century in Murica. Ain't nobody being repressed.

 

I'd have more sympathy for this cause if it were trannies up there kneeling for tranny rights but only because mental health is still neglected and prejudiced in this country

Might wanna take five after this one.

[Billsmovinup]

they work on rockets, duh

Its Rocket scientist. Might want to stay away from any word or phrase with more than 4 letters in it.

[boyst]

Actually he was spot on about the proposed legislation. I work in health care and we have been following it closely.

 

As for Shady's comments, he and other athletes, trash collectors, doctors, anyone has the right to speak out and how much money one makes has nothing to do with that right. You and others forget this country was founded by people who moved here to escape religious persecution and then a century and some years later fought a war against rulers who did not want the colonists to have such rights.

 

I stand for the Anthem. And I also understand the flag and the values it represents stand for supportin mg people's rights and not taking them away. We have a president who has no idea of why this country was founded and what individual rights under the constitution mean. He spouts off jingoistic nonsense so scared people applaud him and thus feed his enormous ego.

no. He was wrong. Tons wrong. The biggest point he had was that pre ex would be cut off. That's wrong. He's an idiot and took his cues from the dolts of government who didn't even take a chance to get the previous national health care bill correct.

 

Kimmel is a cuck holster for Schumer and the like. Nothing more

Its Rocket scientist. Might want to stay away from any word or phrase with more than 4 letters in it.

you don't spend much time here do ya?

[Best Player Available]

Man, for the embodiment of a Jimi Hendrix song that is also a slang for reefer, you are really hitting it out of the park.

 

Well no not really. Putple Haze was about a dream Hendrix had regarding a sci fi novel. Now the dope growers in the golden triangle cross bred strains that had purple hairs. Prove that wrong.

[Prickly Pete]

**Crickets**

 

It's Saturday, man. I have a few other things going on, so I'm not hanging on every word here.

[boyst]

Might wanna take five after this one.

no humor in this guy, eh? Jeesh. Tough crowd

[Prickly Pete]

godwins law Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law.

 

 

Finally.

 

Fin

 

/Thread!!!

 

 

For those of you wondering how it is that an intelligent nation like Germany could elect a man like Hitler to power...

 

You are living through the same sort of movement in this country with Trump. Take notes.

 

It's frightening as all hell, and creepy.

 

Geezus, get a grip!

 

 

More "He's Hitler!!"

 

There has been nothing remotely close to what Hitler tried to do.

[Strethor]

The man who formally screamed his name in Eagles practices as he juked defenders is calling people !@#$s.. Like Trump or not he's no Mother Theresa that's for sure

[Fadingpain]

godwins law Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law. Godwin's law.

 

 

Finally.

 

Fin

 

/Thread!!!

Not really the thinking behind Godwin's law, but funny nevertheless.

 

Trump appeals to stupid ignorant people; sophisticated city dwellers want nothing to do with him.

 

1 in 10 people in NYC voted for Trump. While Trump won the state of Alabama, the city of Birmingham overwhelmingly voted against him.

 

Likewise, Hitler was hated in Berlin and received few votes there; Berlin was arguably the cultural capital of Europe in 1933.

 

Where you find intelligent readers, and cultural sophistication, you will not find Trump voters.

Where you find ignorant yokels, you will find Trump voters.

 

It was the same with Hitler. Both appeal to the lowest common denominator in society.

That is my point.

[GoBills808]

no humor in this guy, eh? Jeesh. Tough crowd

Tongue in cheek with this topic requires a delicate touch...you're just pounding away at it like a rapist.

[Fadingpain]

 

 

 

Geezus, get a grip!

 

 

More "He's Hitler!!"

 

There has been nothing remotely close to what Hitler tried to do.

I didn't say he was Hitler, Einstein.

I said the process that put Hitler in power is very similar to the process that put Trump in power.

People much smarter than you have often debated how a man like Hitler could come to power.

 

You are living through a similar movement now; no need to read a history book in this instance.

[Domdab99]

because Kimmel was way off in his statements and excised an opinion that knew very little on the subject matter just as these athletes do.

 

If we want political mumbo-jumbo we turn to the Maddows, carlsons, blitzers, etc.

 

We want sports and we want to laugh. We don't need a barrage of Media group think when it's shown most disagree with the statements.

 

Please show us where Kimmel got it wrong. The AMA and a host of others who DO know better said he was right.

[Boatdrinks]

I didn't say he was Hitler, Einstein.

 

I said the process that put Hitler in power is very similar to the process that put Trump in power.

 

People much smarter than you have often debated how a man like Hitler could come to power.

 

You are living through a similar movement now; no need to read a history book in this instance.

The process that put Trump in power is known as " eight years of Obama".

[Prickly Pete]

I didn't say he was Hitler, Einstein.

I said the process that put Hitler in power is very similar to the process that put Trump in power.

People much smarter than you have often debated how a man like Hitler could come to power.

 

You are living through a similar movement now; no need to read a history book in this instance.

 

Just list off the terrible things that have happened...I'm ready.

Edited September 23, 2017 by OJABBA

[Johnny Hammersticks]

haha, that's not what I said. Read it again.

 

I'm asking you what you expect to happen,that is worthy of the kind of hysteria we are seeing?

Ummm, okay....well a nuclear holocost is the first thing that pops into my mind....

 

Does that scare you?

[Boatdrinks]

Please show us where Kimmel got it wrong. The AMA and a host of others who DO know better said he was right.

 

These are just special interests protecting their turf.

Ummm, okay....well a nuclear holocost is the first thing that pops into my mind....

Does that scare you?

Won't happen. Doesn't have much to do with Trump, really. It's the nut job in North Korea.

[boyst]

 

Please show us where Kimmel got it wrong. The AMA and a host of others who DO know better said he was right.

thread in PPP discussing it

[BringBackOrton]

Ummm, okay....well a nuclear holocost is the first thing that pops into my mind....

 

Does that scare you?

In list of things that won't happen.....

[oldmanfan]

no. He was wrong. Tons wrong. The biggest point he had was that pre ex would be cut off. That's wrong. He's an idiot and took his cues from the dolts of government who didn't even take a chance to get the previous national health care bill correct.

 

Kimmel is a cuck holster for Schumer and the like. Nothing more

you don't spend much time here do ya?

Again I work in health care and our organization follows this very carefully. The proposed legislation does not absolutely guarantee coverage for pre-existing conditions. It requires states to provide access to care. Access is the keyword. If a state decides to take money out of health care, or if an insurer decides to charge much higher premiums they are still offering coverage for pre-existing conditions. But the people with it may not be able to actually access the care because they can't afford the premiums or have a way to get to a health care provider

 

Do you work in health care? Are you following it that closely or just taking talking points from some site that you agree with? I'm pretty comfortable stating I know way more about this than you do.

 

And I spend a reasonable amount of time here.

[boyst]

Tongue in cheek with this topic requires a delicate touch...you're just pounding away at it like a rapist.

I'm directing it to obscurity. Or was but it is just derailing constantly.

 

These threads just need to be sent to PPP immediately

Again I work in health care and our organization follows this very carefully. The proposed legislation does not absolutely guarantee coverage for pre-existing conditions. It requires states to provide access to care. Access is the keyword. If a state decides to take money out of health care, or if an insurer decides to charge much higher premiums they are still offering coverage for pre-existing conditions. But the people with it may not be able to actually access the care because they can't afford the premiums or have a way to get to a health care provider

 

Do you work in health care? Are you following it that closely or just taking talking points from some site that you agree with? I'm pretty comfortable stating I know way more about this than you do.

 

And I spend a reasonable amount of time here.

yes. I work as an insurance analyst for the local hospital. This bill has a local mix of good and bad. But it's no different than the ACA which also screwed over a lot of people.

 

I suggest ppp thread on this for further discussion

[Prickly Pete]

Ummm, okay....well a nuclear holocost is the first thing that pops into my mind....

 

Does that scare you?

 

oh boy...this is useless.

 

The sky is falling (again).

[boyst]

Ummm, okay....well a nuclear holocost is the first thing that pops into my mind....

 

Does that scare you?

nuclear bombs in camps? That sounds like fun

[Kelly the Dog]

Again I work in health care and our organization follows this very carefully. The proposed legislation does not absolutely guarantee coverage for pre-existing conditions. It requires states to provide access to care. Access is the keyword. If a state decides to take money out of health care, or if an insurer decides to charge much higher premiums they are still offering coverage for pre-existing conditions. But the people with it may not be able to actually access the care because they can't afford the premiums or have a way to get to a health care provider

Do you work in health care? Are you following it that closely or just taking talking points from some site that you agree with? I'm pretty comfortable stating I know way more about this than you do.

And I spend a reasonable amount of time here.

That's really the issue. The GOP and the plan and the explanation uses nebulous words like accessible or available or affordable but they simply are not for a lot of people. Just because a plan is accessible doesn't mean you can afford it or the waiver or the subsidy will cover it. The rates will be such that if you have PEC in a lot of states you will be reaching for a porkchop held out of the dog's reach.

[Johnny Hammersticks]

oh boy...this is useless.

 

The sky is falling (again).

 

You act like this is so far outside the realm of possibility. Are you following along with this whole North Korea thing?

[boyst]

You act like this is so far outside the realm of possibility. Are you following along with this whole North Korea thing?

NK isn't a big deal

 

NK lunches a weapon even as a test and China has no choice to forget them. NK wiped out in minutes if that even messes up or impacts a person

 

NK continues to rattle sabres and nothing happens.

 

NK is done.

[BringBackOrton]

You act like this is so far outside the realm of possibility. Are you following along with this whole North Korea thing?

Their missiles travel 2 feet dude. Do you live on the 38th parallel? No? Then you'll be fine.

 

Jesus, this hysteria is getting actually grating now.

[Domdab99]

Again I work in health care and our organization follows this very carefully. The proposed legislation does not absolutely guarantee coverage for pre-existing conditions. It requires states to provide access to care. Access is the keyword. If a state decides to take money out of health care, or if an insurer decides to charge much higher premiums they are still offering coverage for pre-existing conditions. But the people with it may not be able to actually access the care because they can't afford the premiums or have a way to get to a health care provider

 

Do you work in health care? Are you following it that closely or just taking talking points from some site that you agree with? I'm pretty comfortable stating I know way more about this than you do.

 

And I spend a reasonable amount of time here.

 

thank you

[boyst]

Actually he was spot on about the proposed legislation. I work in health care and we have been following it closely.

 

As for Shady's comments, he and other athletes, trash collectors, doctors, anyone has the right to speak out and how much money one makes has nothing to do with that right. You and others forget this country was founded by people who moved here to escape religious persecution and then a century and some years later fought a war against rulers who did not want the colonists to have such rights.

 

I stand for the Anthem. And I also understand the flag and the values it represents stand for supportin mg people's rights and not taking them away. We have a president who has no idea of why this country was founded and what individual rights under the constitution mean. He spouts off jingoistic nonsense so scared people applaud him and thus feed his enormous ego.

https://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/196513-kimmell-calls-out-sen-cassidy

No. He merely says one side of it. Here is the link

 

thank you

https://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/196513-kimmell-calls-out-sen-cassidyfor what? He's wrong

[oldmanfan]

https://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/196513-kimmell-calls-out-sen-cassidy

No. He merely says one side of it. Here is the link

https://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/196513-kimmell-calls-out-sen-cassidyfor what? He's wrong

Yes, I looked through the link. And in numerous posts it says pretty much what I said. While states would have to cover pre-existing conditions states can also apply for waivers to not have to do things that were under the ACA.

 

Access to coverage is not coverage. I can offer everyone in America healthcare right now, but if the amount you'd have to pay to get it is impossible for you to handle, then access is meaningless.