Hurricane Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Eh, 14 games left in his Bills career... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-BillzeBubba Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Eh, 14 games left in his Bills career... Doubt it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Doubt it... Yeah me too. Gonna be less thank god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-BillzeBubba Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Yeah me too. Gonna be less thank god Doubt that too...TT will be the starter in 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Raven's were done with him as well. You win big with the likes of Brady, Rodgers, and Ryan. Make your comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) Doubt that too...TT will be the starter in 2018 Ok so is he tearing his contract up again? And re-signing because of no market? Lets hear this answer. I could use a laugh Edited September 18, 2017 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-BillzeBubba Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Raven's were done with him as well. You win big with the likes of Brady, Rodgers, and Ryan. Make your comparison. BS...and No way the others are playing in Buff...and no way we get Brees/Rivers/ELI when their teams are done with them...TT is our QB until we draft a winner draft pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 BS...and No way the others are playing in Buff...and no way we get Brees/Rivers/ELI when their teams are done with them...TT is our QB until we draft a winner draft pick See you wont answer my question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-BillzeBubba Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) See you wont answer my question what Q? OK I see that Q He will stay here until traded Edited September 18, 2017 by Billzebubba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 what Q? Will he tear up his contract and sign for less than 10M yet again because there is no market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-BillzeBubba Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Will he tear up his contract and sign for less than 10M yet again because there is no market? Who says he has to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Who says he has to? So you are good with paying 20M for 125 yard games with maybe an 8-8 season. Wow glad not the gm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) The Bills and Tyrod are the unhappy couple who are stuck with each other... for now. The team clearly does not trust him and wants to take the game out of his hands as much as possible. I mean..the team just will not run an NFL passing offense. For that matter the running game is the same 3 plays over and over, and is so predictable that everyone on the board calls the run up the middle on 1st down all game long. I would like to see a more attacking style passing offense early on in the game. "But he doesn't have WRs who can get open!" WRONG Zay Jones was wide open for the game winning TD. Regardless of who is at fault, maybe if you called passing plays on a more consistent basis the players could get some practice and hit on those routes. It's tough when you get one chance to make a throw after 55 minutes of watching your RB smash into the center for 1 yard and then standing on the sidelines watching the defense defend 20 play drives. The point is the WR was open on 4th down to win, so it wasn't like Carolina just let it happen in "garbage time" or something. The WR can get open, they just don't get many chances. That's on the coaches. This team has pretty much given up on having any type of NFL passing attack. That is pathetic. Let Tyrod play QB. It has to be more entertaining than watching what we just saw last week. "We need to run in Buffalo" LOL... Why? because it snows every game? When was the last real snow game here anyway? Good thing Green Bay doesn't have a passing attack, or NE, or Pittsburgh. Edited September 18, 2017 by TheFunPolice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Duh. If there was one coach you could keep from Rex's staffit would've been Kromer. No brainer. Nope that was Crossman he just needs 11 ST players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-BillzeBubba Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 So you are good with paying 20M for 125 yard games with maybe an 8-8 season. Wow glad not the gm You seem to love and want failure, makes me wonder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) It's just depressing watching the pathetic joke of an offense the Bills run (all around zero imagination or creativity) then watching the Falcons/Packers game. We aren't even in the same league. It's like watching a different sport, and has been for years now. Even the Chiefs, the team that everyone points to as the "run the ball, play defense and get a little lucky team" throw it quite a bit and make big plays in the passing game. Edited September 18, 2017 by TheFunPolice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 It's just depressing watching the pathetic joke of an offense the Bills run (all around zero imagination or creativity) then watching the Falcons/Packers game. We aren't even in the same league. It's like watching a different sport, and has been for years now. 'Defense and running the ball win in the NFL'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 'Defense and running the ball win in the NFL'. Sure they do. Sure they do every now and then. Just aother NFL myth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 its really almost besides the point the last drive, where the f was the offense all game? so frustrating watching this nonsense. Kudos to the D, played their butts off. Yet in the end wasted effort. How about giving that Carolina defense some credit! They played lights out....That pass rush was quite fearsome and our OL did not hold up for either the run or pass game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 If you're going to run at least TRY to be creative with it. It's like they tried to be as vanilla as possible. They run up the middle every single first down, then have the Toldozer run a sweep play to mix it up on 2nd. Then it's the short pass to set up the punt. Every freaking drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 And you need to be too. Our defense played their butts off. Absolutely horrible QB play. He missed receivers all day long and never keeps his eyes downfield. The guy makes me sick. Such a shame we are a average QB away. His completion percentage was around 70% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 His completion percentage was around 70% Yes the good ole QB rating hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Y'know we are stuck with Tyrod for the season, probably next year too. And furthermore, we are probably going to end up with the 4th best QB pick in 2018, but carry on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) Exactly. And yes proof... you said 27 teams pay for PFF... Show me proof of that Here is an excerpt from an SI article back in 2015. https://www.si.com/2015/01/25/pro-football-focus-nfl-neil-hornsby-cris-collinsworth-analytics Neil Hornsby isn’t doing this solely as a labor of love, though that’s precisely how his business, Pro Football Focus, began nine years ago in Luton, England, some 30 miles north of London. Living stateside since October, he now counts 13 NFL teams—40% of the league—as clients, including seven teams from this season’s playoff field. He also oversees a staff of roughly 80 full- and part-time employees who watch countless hours of game footage from their home offices in California, Northern Ireland and seemingly everywhere in between. Cris Collinsworth also bought a percentage of PFF after being so impressed by it. Edited September 19, 2017 by Scott7975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Here is an excerpt from an SI article back in 2015. https://www.si.com/2015/01/25/pro-football-focus-nfl-neil-hornsby-cris-collinsworth-analytics Now what are they getting from him. I am sure it is not your run of the mill QBR stuff. If an NFL team has hired PFF they are getting very specific information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Yes the good ole QB rating hack. No that would be completion percentage, not QB rating. Thx. The point he was missing WRs all day doesn't align well with 70% completed passes... now does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 No that would be completion percentage, not QB rating. Thx. The point he was missing WRs all day doesn't align well with 70% completed passes... now does it? Yes it actually does. 1 QB rating is very greatly affected by comp percentage thats why i said that. Anyway missing WRs is more about the throws he doesnt make compared to the ones he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 It's just depressing watching the pathetic joke of an offense the Bills run (all around zero imagination or creativity) then watching the Falcons/Packers game. We aren't even in the same league. It's like watching a different sport, and has been for years now. Even the Chiefs, the team that everyone points to as the "run the ball, play defense and get a little lucky team" throw it quite a bit and make big plays in the passing game. Even GB sucked yesterday until Atlanta backed off with a huge lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewMexBills Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 TYGOD will prove you all wrong after a fine showing Sunday vs Broncos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Now what are they getting from him. I am sure it is not your run of the mill QBR stuff. If an NFL team has hired PFF they are getting very specific information. I'm not even really trying to prove anything. Guy wanted a link and I gave him one from 2.5 years ago saying I think 13 teams. I don't think the teams use it for ratings but they really do have some useful stats that not really anyone charted at the time. I am sure they are useful to teams at least somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I'm not even really trying to prove anything. Guy wanted a link and I gave him one from 2.5 years ago saying I think 13 teams. I don't think the teams use it for ratings but they really do have some useful stats that not really anyone charted at the time. I am sure they are useful to teams at least somewhat. Ooo yeah i agree. I doubt teams use their subjective grades and such. And if they employ PFF i am sure they are asking for specific things. Just like they do from these national scouting agencies like Belsto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 But I like Darnold Josh Allen isn't helping his draft ranking any so far this season. I guess Falk rebounded but I watched his previous game and he was awful. Looking forward to seeing Rosen vs Stanford this Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Man looking at the wont pull the trigger plays on the all-22. Standard data for Tentative Tyrod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) How about giving that Carolina defense some credit! They played lights out....That pass rush was quite fearsome and our OL did not hold up for either the run or pass gameWe give them credit of doing the same thing as 15 of his last 31 opponents Stop the run stop the Bills Edited September 19, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Man looking at the wont pull the trigger plays on the all-22. Standard data for Tentative Tyrod Ummm... what? Dude, what were you watching? There's a play he's rolling to his left that's pretty clearly designed to #42 where O'Leary comes open in the middle of the field. Taylor sees him and doesn't throw it and goes back to #42. Why? Probably because the difficulty of that throw to O'Leary was significantly higher considering the way he was running and the defenders running straight at him and the goal was just to get a first down and #42 would have had that if he could have held onto the damn ball. What the All-22 confirms is that there may be a couple plays where Taylor could have thrown it to another guy, but our guys were blanketed by Panthers defenders. I really don't know what All-22 you're watching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) Man looking at the wont pull the trigger plays on the all-22. Standard data for Tentative Tyrod Like this one: https://twitter.com/YardsPerPass/status/909941669579100160 or this one:https://twitter.com/YardsPerPass/status/909943076826812417 Where are you watching this because all ive seen on yards per pass thus far is blanketed receivers and little time to throw. Edit: Ive seen the one slant he could have hit from our endzone. So there is one play so far. Where else? Edited September 19, 2017 by Scott7975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Quote Probably because the difficulty of that throw to O'Leary was significantly higher considering the way he was running and the defenders running straight at him and the goal was just to get a first down and #42 would have had that if he could have held onto the damn ball. Unquote Difficulty ........... Significantly higher ......... He was running ....... Not that hard to see the same faults Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Ummm... what? Dude, what were you watching? There's a play he's rolling to his left that's pretty clearly designed to #42 where O'Leary comes open in the middle of the field. Taylor sees him and doesn't throw it and goes back to #42. Why? Probably because the difficulty of that throw to O'Leary was significantly higher considering the way he was running and the defenders running straight at him and the goal was just to get a first down and #42 would have had that if he could have held onto the damn ball. What the All-22 confirms is that there may be a couple plays where Taylor could have thrown it to another guy, but our guys were blanketed by Panthers defenders. I really don't know what All-22 you're watching Ready check this timeline there hero https://twitter.com/cover_1_/status/909918697401221121 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 https://twitter.com/YardsPerPass/status/909946801775669248 The only reason Tyrod was able to thread the needle here is because this guy was college open over the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Like this one: https://twitter.com/YardsPerPass/status/909941669579100160 or this one:https://twitter.com/YardsPerPass/status/909943076826812417 Where are you watching this because all ive seen on yards per pass thus far is blanketed receivers and little time to throw. Edit: Ive seen the one slant he could have hit from our endzone. So there is one play so far. Where else? How about this one. Watch Zay WIDE Open on the dig https://twitter.com/cover_1_/status/909918697401221121 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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