JerseyBills Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Marcell is a fat tub of goo.I tell every Bills fan , follow Yardsperpass on Twitter. Breaks down film every week of Bills. Dareus actually had a solid game, collapsed the line many times , opening up lanes for his teammates, not a great game but he definitely was solid and faced a ton of double teams.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Ok, so I picked 2 team at random with good defenses The Min. and Balt. and looked up the snap count % of their 2 starting guys interior guys. They were 73%, 56%, 56% , and 62% So the stats show too many guys are shooting of their mouths and dont know what they are talking about!!!! And enough of the contract crap, not his fault and the people that gave it to him have been shown the door already!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I don't mind the rotation. Keeping guys fresh makes sense to me if you have the horses to do it effectively. But no run stuffing zero tech is worth the money MD is being paid. He is (or should be) a disruptive 3 tech. McDermott's scheme allows for using MD this way so I expect to see that as the season progresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 You can bet the FO is exploring every way cap wise to dump him this offseason They're not going to wait until the off season to dump him. Dareus is gone probably well before the trade deadline if they can find any team willing to give them whatever bargain basement price they set. The Bills are employing their typical negative propaganda about said player in the ever-cooperative local media to prep fans for his departure sooner rather than later. They've employed that tactic in the past, most notably with Jason Peters and Marshawn Lynch but also with players who were sent packing in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I think it's more like "If you're paying a player to be Reggie White, and he's not being Reggie White, you're either misusing him or gave him the wrong contract." Except this regime did not give him that contract. So what makes them obligated to play him to his salary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 any chance of restructuring Marcel's deal to make it more team friendly so we can trade him? i think a new DT will be high on the list of priorities with Kyle a year or two from retiring. if Marcel is still here next year it's because we used our picks on a QB and didn't get a suitable replacement for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsmovinup Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) seems to be the norm for some around here. nothing better to do but bash/disrespect a player or worry about his money. it say's a lot about said persons that do so. you know, since they're so much better of a person and feel it's their obligation to bash/disrespect or worry about their bank accounts. So Marcells past legal issues and lack of productivity since since he signed this deal have nothing to do with it? I dont hear people complaining about Shady Mccoy like they complain about Dareus. You know why? Because he gives 100 percent and produces on Sunday. Hes got a pretty hefty contract for a running back. In fact they just added more incentives to it yet I dont hear anybody griping about that because he produces. Dareus has let this organization down multiple times. He deserves every single bit of criticsm he gets. Mcdermott can say anything he wants now. The real proof on how this organization feels will be whether or not they cut him once the cap hit becomes manageable. Edited September 14, 2017 by Billsmovinup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Ok, so I picked 2 team at random with good defenses The Min. and Balt. and looked up the snap count % of their 2 starting guys interior guys. They were 73%, 56%, 56% , and 62% So the stats show too many guys are shooting of their mouths and dont know what they are talking about!!!! And enough of the contract crap, not his fault and the people that gave it to him have been shown the door already!!! Good post. And to add to this - I just looked it up the 2014 Buffalo Bills defense. Dareus played 62.4% of the snaps and had probably his best season ever, so... https://www.buffalorumblings.com/bills-news-notes/2014/12/29/7463105/2014-buffalo-bills-defense-review-snap-counts-play-time-percent-stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 What was KW's snap count?43 for 74% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Good post. And to add to this - I just looked it up the 2014 Buffalo Bills defense. Dareus played 62.4% of the snaps and had probably his best season ever, so...https://www.buffalorumblings.com/bills-news-notes/2014/12/29/7463105/2014-buffalo-bills-defense-review-snap-counts-play-time-percent-stats Exactly He is 330 LBs He isn't going to play 75-80% of the snaps and dominate. You need to keep him steady at 55-65% and he will still dominate for 16 games. Sure he can be immature , and he smokes weed and has drag raced. But on the field he has no weaknesses. He has very few flaws besides playing in a rotation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 43 for 74% Yes, that was KWs numbers. So, the 15% difference was 9 plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 What are the goals of a professional sports team? 1. Win the game. 2. Well, there isn't a 2. Maybe it's, don't show off capabilities you don't need to reveal, but only if you win to begin with. The Bills coaching staff put together a strategy that was sufficient to beat a crappy team. They won easily and could have outscored the Jets by more -- but why do that? Why use every trick in their bag to beat the Jets? It's much better to just win, and show future opponents as little else as possible. For the defense, the only threat was Forte and Powell. The Bills used their D line to eat up blockers and keep the blockers from reaching our LBs. I think that worked out perfectly. This approach won't work against good QBs but don't expect the Bills to use the same approach against good QBs. It's the coaches' job to figure out how to attack the other team. I didn't like the fact that Dareus got pushed back on the QB sneak. Other than that, he seemed to be doing exactly what he was told to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I don't mind the rotation. Keeping guys fresh makes sense to me if you have the horses to do it effectively. But no run stuffing zero tech is worth the money MD is being paid. He is (or should be) a disruptive 3 tech. McDermott's scheme allows for using MD this way so I expect to see that as the season progresses. perhaps a lesson in Humble? Rotating in D line men is the way to go for sure. I expect to see a different game from the defense, as far as matching up goes. Bills would be wise to bring pressure via the tackles. Contain the edges and see how Car responds. Definitely a story to watch play out for me. Sure as heck hope it has a Happy Ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHAN Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 You don't pay a DT a $100 million to be JAG who plugs up the middle of the line. He was paid that money to be an IMPACT player. If he cannot be that player, or they don't want to put him on the field enough to be that player, then his future as a Bill is probably done by the end of the 2018 season....when his dead cap hit drops significantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Except this regime did not give him that contract. So what makes them obligated to play him to his salary? His contract ? It would be such a major move for them to dump him. Everyone in the NFL would stand up and take notice i bet. any chance of restructuring Marcel's deal to make it more team friendly so we can trade him? i think a new DT will be high on the list of priorities with Kyle a year or two from retiring. if Marcel is still here next year it's because we used our picks on a QB and didn't get a suitable replacement for him only if MD is willing. He might be, but he has bank right now. #stackingthecash Exactly He is 330 LBs He isn't going to play 75-80% of the snaps and dominate. You need to keep him steady at 55-65% and he will still dominate for 16 games. Sure he can be immature , and he smokes weed and has drag raced. But on the field he has no weaknesses. He has very few flaws besides playing in a rotation i fit this description, mostly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Good post. And to add to this - I just looked it up the 2014 Buffalo Bills defense. Dareus played 62.4% of the snaps and had probably his best season ever, so... https://www.buffalorumblings.com/bills-news-notes/2014/12/29/7463105/2014-buffalo-bills-defense-review-snap-counts-play-time-percent-stats Exactly. I posted more detailed 2014 stats on the last Dareus Bashing Thread. His best season (2014, under Schwartz) was indeed 62%. His worst full season (2015, under Rex) he played over 80% of defensive snaps. That's of course not the sole reason for his apparent decline, but it is an important reason. Look, professional athletics is now a maximum intensity/full effort activity. Every football snap. Every baseball pitch. Every NBA possession. A deep defensive line if you're lucky enough to have one -- we were in 2014, and I'm starting to think was are in 2017 -- provides a coach a great luxury to get that maximum effort on every snap. For some reason (probably the difficulty in integrating new guys into an established blocking scheme) we don't see O lines rotating as frequently, so a talented/deep rotated defensive line has a big advantage. Let's not beat up on the guy for fitting into the scheme just one year after we all beat up on him for refusing to adapt to the former scheme ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 He was single-teamed the majority of the time Sunday. And he didn't get any penetration. And notably, McCown's TD sneak was right over him, where he was blown off the line. Dont ruin the narrative. Its like people say things without even watching him and him alone. All i reqd on hear was how many double teams he faced. So I decided to re watch the game and focus solely on him. He literally only faced a double team roughly on a 1/3 of his snaps, and when he wasnt double teamed he did hardly anything, certainly nothing if note that a team would expect from their supposed defensive star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 His contract ? It would be such a major move for them to dump him. Everyone in the NFL would stand up and take notice i bet. only if MD is willing. He might be, but he has bank right now. #stackingthecash i fit this description, mostly. Do you want 100 million dollars? And can you split an A gap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 If he complained about his playing time, the haters would be up in arms for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Age of Aquarius Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 It's only a matter of time before he's gone. As is true with any of us in general, and to any of the earthly matters we choose to attend to, in specificity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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