The Age of Aquarius

Everyone in a crashing plane puts on oxygen masks too--does that validate that system's life saving capabilities?

Surely, someone beat me to it, but: How many did Kap?

As is true with any of us in general, and to any of the earthly matters we choose to attend to, in specificity.

Youre going to see a lot of this in the coming years as quarterbacks from this era retire and take to the booth. The rules put in place to protect quarterbacks over the last decade weren't to save their arms, knees and feet, but their brains--lose too many of the good QBs to concussions too often, and you're left with a league full of Buffalo Bills: middling franchises with no saviors. If you buy the theory that the NFL knew about the detrimental effects of concussions before the general public, then it's a short leap to think they were protecting the brains of the only position on the field that needs to think at that level. A personality helps too, but Romo never struck me as a very deep guy from his locker room interviews. Guys like Cutler, Rogers, Fitzpatrick, Luck, Dalton, Flacco, Carr, etc. etc. etc. are getting knocked around at about 10% the rate of the guys like Gannon, Tasker, Aikman, Simms did during their career--when they eventually take to the booth, the color commentators are going to outstrip the play by play guys, in terms of interesting banter, by a wide margin.

This thing could still hit the Carolinas, but if it does impact Miami as a CAT5, they might not play a home game this year.

It was on this day that Matter2003 decreed that speculation and conjecture must be banned from the internet, and all people accessing this technology should hold off on forming opinions until all matters have resolved themselves, and official government agencies have disseminated officially acceptable and correct public stances for us to adopt! For anyone willing to step out of line and think for themselves: There is potential for this hurricane to impact the Carolinas, during a time frame that the Buffalo Bills are scheduled to travel there. That may not happen. Nothing in the thread title or body of my OP is misleading, or painting a picture of a definitive reality. If the storm were to track as the model below shows, it would absolutely lead to the relocating of the game. https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2017090312/gfs_mslp_wind_seus_35.png No one knows where it is going to land, and it may very well blow out to sea. It's not "false reporting" to discuss hypotheticals, it's just an interesting weather related scenario that could impact Buffalo's season. A feat so incredibly rare that it hasn't happened since... 3 years ago when their game vs. the Jets was moved to primetime in Detroit because of a snow storm. I can tell by your referencing AMWAPO as a news source that the course of world affairs has left you in it's wake, angrily lashing out at those around you as they assimilate and disseminate news at a rate which leaves you able only to throw out platitudes like "fake news!" Sorry gramps, but its your job to keep up, not my job to massage your sensitivities.

The Buffalo Bills are scheduled to play the Carolina Panthers, in Carolina, on 9/17. As of right now, Hurricane Irma is too far out to sea to get an accurate prediction--but as the models have started to coalesce, they're showing a CAT5 slamming into the Carolinas on 9/11. Because of the size of the storm, it has the ability to bring serious wind and rain (CAT4) inland as far as Charlotte: https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2017090300/gfs_mslp_wind_seus_35.png If this model were to hold, and it were to happen on that date, it would not only make practice impossible for the Panthers leading up to the game that week--but the logistics/optics of hosting a pro football game would become nearly impossible just 5 days later. The NFL could theoretically relocate the game to a neutral site, but what would be the benefit to doing that? Very few Carolina fans would be able to travel, and it's unlikely 60,000 Buffalo fans would be able to fill a neutral site stadium with 3 days of a heads up. Also: if the path of this storm remains unpredictable, or if it shifts to impact Florida/VIRMARDEL, other game day locales could be affected as well. The NFL could simply move the game location to Buffalo, and give us an extra home game. It would also mean we start the season with 3 straight home games. As you keep an eye on Irma's path, keep this one in the back of your mind. Happy Labor day.

Thank you. I watched the video and was going to write a response, but then saw the thread had 9 pages! When I cam to this page, you were at the top with this response, which I completely agree with. Too many throws across his body on the run, absolutely no patience in the pocket for routes to develop--quite honestly he looks scared to take a hit. As soon as the pocket starts collapsing, his eyes leave downfield and he looks for a running lane. CJ Beathard. He WILL be the quarterback that we (and 31 other teams) forever rue the day we passed on him. Poise in the pocket, strong delivery, can take a hit, gets better as the game goes on. We would have had our franchise guy, but sadly, we let it slip by.

Who did he butt heads with in Buffalo? The media? They suck, and we complain about them endlessly. The players that are lazy? They suck, and we complain about guys like Dareus endlessly. Management? They suck, and were all just fired. Meanwhile, Marrone landed another gig, and I'll be rooting for him. Still the best coach we've had since Wade, going purely by results. One final thing: to everyone that is giving Schwartz credit for that season--that was the staff that Marrone hired. If you're going to say he was a terrible coach because of Hackett, then you have to say he was a great coach because of Schwartz, no? Isn't that how it works? Or do we have to cast logic into the bushes to make ourselves feel better because he essentially called out the Bills for being a third rate organization and opted for a career DOWNGRADE instead of job security? nvm, don't respond, I already know the answer.

I am proud to be a Doug Marrone supporter. What did he do that was so wrong? That hasn't been completely vindicated? Doug: Said he would turn the Bills around. Result: Immediate turn around, winning record, best season during the drought, and drop off when he left. Doug: Hated EJ, wanted a real QB, and said management wouldn't get him one/support him with one. Result: Used a post-training camp QB acquisition to post a winning record. Doug: Argued with Whaley, couldn't get along with the entire organizational structure of the Bills, thought the organization was dysfunctional. Result: Whaley's been canned, the scouting department's been canned, and everyone here wants the holdovers (Brandon, Overdorf) gone as well. Doug: Thought the players lacked discipline, and wanted to run a tight ship/accountable team. Result: I'm still reading articles on the front page of this very site about how that fat piece of sh*t Dareus is going to get his act together this year because he's mature. Our team is full of idiots that are constantly coddled. Sammy's best season was with Saint Doug. Doug: Hated the Buffalo media. Result: Everyone on this board passionately hates the Buffalo media. Doug: Wanted to leave because he was unsure if there would be a massive house cleaning because of new ownership. Result: Massive housecleaning 2 years later, because of new ownership. The only difference between you and Doug is that he got paid a few million bucks to bag on this sorry organization for the same faults that you idiots come on here and write about in your spare time. He's literally a multi-millionaire message board poster that has insight into the inner workings of why this organization has failed for a decade and a half, but because he walked away from it, bet on himself, got a new job, and now runs a team that will probably make the playoffs before the Bills (lol) he's the bad guy. Go Doug!

When the movie Concussion came out.

Rumor was Percy Harvin f*cked Russ's old lady and that's why he got shipped.

I'd give up the next 5 firsts for CJ Beathard. Whoever gets him is set.

I used to get so excited for this. I would check the internet every day for leaks and what not. Now I have a kid, and a stressful job, and I might forget that it releases on Thursday, and then Friday night as I'm enjoying a drink or 2 before bed, it'll hit me that, "oh yeah! The schedule came out yesterday". I kinda like it better this way, tbh.

I've felt this way for so long, but have started to change my way of thinking. I can't believe what I'm about to say, but... sigh.... I almost respect them for the cheating. I heard that Greg Williams speech--it really is a war out there. These guys are going up against roided up monsters trying to knock them senseless. It's war, in some sense of the word--as gladitorial as it may seem. Although a hidden camera might be "unethical", what are ethics when your opponent is literally trying to inflict a sufficient amount of damage to your brain to render you incapable of continuing play? That's life or death, in some sense of the word. The Patriots developed "a system", in so far as from top to bottom, they've optimized their workflow. They are the corporate consultant's dream--not a wasted dollar, minute or idea at 1 Patriots Drive. Our team, the Buffalo Bills, are wasting resources transitioning to a new head coach--the 4th time they've had to do this in 5 years, and countless numbers of coordinators. We have no excess resources to waste on things like corporate espionage--we can't even get our middle management right, lol. The Patriots are a machine, man. The fact that they turned a 6th round frat boy into James Bond's offspring who can throw a spiral with his right hand and father illegitimate children with Hollywood actresses while dating Brazilian supermodels with his left hand (all while wearing uggs and drinking seaweed) detracts from neither of them and only compliments the greatness at the whole due to the utilization of the parts. They are absolutely incredible and watching Chris Hogan become the best receiver in the NFL for 4 million dollars when Buffalo didn't want to give him a raise from 3 million dollars should tell you all you need to know about the differences in the BUSINESSES being run in Orchard Park and Foxborough Massachusetts.

I'm in the Brady camp (too young to remember anything about Montana aside from losing the AFC championship game in Buffalo) but this is really well written and a great arguement. Thanks for the bolded insight. This is also a really good argument. Having a blast reading through this, a lot of great opinions. This is when this board is at it's best--minimal insults, great sports bar conversation. Damn, this is a great point. LOL, I'm torn. Absolutely incredible argument--never thought about it from this angle before, and I've heard/seen/read a million Brady/Peyton debates over the years. Incredible insight. This might be the best thread I've ever read on this site. LOL. This might be the first thing in this thread I've been strongly opinionated about: are you kidding me pal?!!? Go find anyone, in any corner of the internet who considers Jack NIKLAUS to be a choke case and a loser, and I'll buy you a ticket to the Masters. At worst you might find a few people who think he's second best to Tiger, but even that crowd is shrinking. Golf is the hardest game on the planet--finishing second at any major even 1 time in your career is enough for glory for some (Sergio)--in no way should a golfer's game be compared to an NFL athlete. 1 winner, 1 loser in football; 1 winner, 160 losers in golf. You're using language like you know something from someone important. It's this "tone of voice" on the internet that has had me thinking an asteroid is going to crash into Earth on Tuesday so many times before.

2-2 Beat the Bears and lost to the Saints in Indy Beat the Panthers and lost to the Hawks in Denver

Call me crazy: Jags just became my second favorite team. Right, wrong, offensive, agreeable... the fact remains: The Bills win over GB in Orchard Park 2 years ago was the high water mark of this franchise post-Homerun-throwback. They were this close to something: whether that something was a deep playoff run, or a complete implosion because of Saint Doug's demeanor, it was the classic give me an A or give me an F scenario. It kills me daily that we let him go. "But the media said he was as !@#$". Yup. They said the same thing about Trump--people saw through that, but only because alternative media exists in the political sphere. There is no alternative media on the Bills, aside from the players tweets. Oh--and Sammy saying the team needed a disciplinarian as a coach--which Doug was. So... there's that. Anyways, he came in here and talked a big game. Then promptly backed it up. And consider: everyone on here hates the Bills management structure? Wasn't that Doug's biggest blowup? Basically tearing the front office a new one because they were saddling him with EJ-freaking Manuel? They got him the best of slim pickings at QB (without even really addressing the position), and he gave the city the best team they've seen in 15 years. Give him Tyrod and I think we're 12-4. I'm loathe to post on here, but I'll bookmark this thread, and up it in a few years. I have a feeling letting Saint Doug walk is going to be the worst move this franchise ever made--and that's saying something. We f*cking sucked before he came to town, and suck now that he's gone. His 2014 season here sticks out like a lighthouse in a foggy shitstorm of futility hell.

I don't know how the Bills can be fixed, because I've never worked for an NFL team before (successful or otherwise). I do work for a company that has had some management problems, and being a middle manager myself, I know how difficult it can be to achieve organizational success without everyone working towards a common goal. I do not claim to understand the inner workings of the Bills, but I read a rumor (?) somewhere that Pegula soured on Rex because he was starting to ingratiate himself to the good-ol-boys club of owners, and, essentially, wants to "fit in". I would imagine the first thing these other owners want from Pegs is a new stadium, to increase their revenue sharing. We'll get that before we get a winner. But once the Bills are putting more $ into the kitty in the middle, I imagine the other owners will want sellouts and playoff games for the Bills--look for some outside "consultation" to arrive at that point. 4-5 more years of losing, I fear.

Black Excellence: 3 black QBs black GM black head coach

Lol, right? Those idiots! One of those morons actually sold me his playoff tickets--we'll see who gets the last laught!

In each of the last 2 seasons? No, it certainly doesn't. But if we continue to win at that rate this year, then yes, we'll be in about the top 25% of the league in terms of success over the last 3 years, and that's with switching head coaches, quarterbacks, offensive, defensive, and special teams coordinators--not to mention a rash of injuries. The other teams on that list (NE, GB, KC, PIT, SEA, DEN) are the NFL's elite. What that tells me, is that the Bills are building/have built a successful organization--and when that bears fruit (this year? next? the following?) it's likely to place us in the upper echelon of teams, and legitimately lead to another "golden age" of Bills football. If the feat is so easily accomplished, I would expect to see some teams like Dallas, Carolina, NYG, Baltimore, etc. etc. on that list. But they're not, and we are. Don't be so eager to blow this up. We're damn close.. DAMN close.

Doug Whaley has done an absolutely phenomenal job as a GM of the Buffalo Bills. As of right now, the Bills are one of 10 (ten!) teams in the NFL who have played .500 better or ball in each of the past 2 seasons. And out of those 10 teams, 6 of them (including the Bills) are within a game of .500 this year. If the Bills finish at or above .500, and a few times finish a game below .500, the Bills will be part of an exclusive club that includes NFL royalty like Patriots, Broncos, Packers, and Steelers. Doug Whaley came to Buf from Pittsburgh, where he was for over a decade. Pittsburgh is one of the best run franchises in the NFL--and they have continuous success. To achieve organizational success like that, you need more than just "a new quarterback", you need a system that can scout the country for new talent, watch the waiver wire, check out practice squads, monitor players in the league to see who's turning over the bottom of their roster. Whether or not it assuages your anger, the fact is that this Bills team has lost A LOT of players to injury... but, wait, you say (now say it with me): "every team has injuries". They do, which is why the list of teams that have strung together .500 seasons includes only 10 teams, winning in the NFL is hard, and only good organizations can be successful over time. The Bills have managed to tread water this year, with a rash of injuries; last year, they were able to do the same with a new head coach (new defense) and a new quarterback (essentially a rookie). What their success (and I use that term as a measure of their performance, record wise, in comparison to the other 31 teams in the league--not as a measure of your personal wish fulfillment) is showing is that they are built with quality depth, which means there is cheap, sustainable talent from top to bottom, offense, defense, and special teams, from the starters to the practice squad. I don't know if the Bills are a year away, or 2 years away, or 5 years away. I don't know how long it takes to build a winning football organization. How long it takes to hire the right nutritionists, film technicians, personal trainers, scouting department, maintenance crews, etc. etc. But building an entire organization is not an easy task. Blowing it up and starting over would set us right back to square freaking one. We could feasibly be in a situation next year with a returning OC, an established roster, a halfway decent QB, an all pro WR and RB, a healthy defense, and 40 million to spend going into free agence--who knows, Brady might even win a ring and ride off into the sunset. Consider the following: The Bills are not moving backwards, and they are playing even (or winning) football for a 3 year stretch for only the 3rd time since the Super Bowl era. The first time they did it was the last 3 years of the Super Bowl teams, led by an unstoppable offense, which was managed by a hell of a GM that Ralph ran out of town; the next time they did it, Flutie was in town, the defense was all world, and they ran a hell of a GM (and coach!) out of town; now, we have the best rushing offense in the league, an all world Oline, and have a hell of a GM in town, the only difference is, this team hasn't peaked, it's on the way up. Can we finally, for the first time in a quarter century, have a little continuity? 14-2 seems like it could legitimately be in play next year. I'm begging ownership to not cave into the instant-gratification crowd. This team is loaded, and winning more football games than 2/3ds-3/4 of the league. Let 'em play ball one more year together, they just might surprise you.

This is one of the best lines I've ever read, in 20 years of reading about sports on the internet.

The Hoody doesn't have a coaching tree, because the Hoody is a cheater. The Patriots know what their opponents are going to do before they do it. The results are tangible--4 championships with a 6 round QB and a 3-0 record with 2 backup quarterbacks this year... but the effects of this system have much broader implications. Due to compartmentalization, the number of people within the Patriots organization that understand the scope of the cheating is likely limited. So, if you're some middle of the road coordinator (Matt Patricia, Charlie Weiss, Romeo Crennel, Bill O Brien, Josh McDaniels, etc.) you probably know that the opponents signals/walkthroughs/locker room conversations are recorded and analyzed, but the direct benefit of that intel is limited to those on a "need to know" basis. None of these coordinators actually LEARN how to call a game, or run a team--they're like Julia Styles in a Bourne movie: they've seen all the action behind the scenes, but have no clue how to use it in the real world. Lol... McDaniels was fired after EMBARRASSINGLY attempting to set up his own surveillance system in Denver. It was humiliating, and the Broncos had major egg on their face. Or is this one of those boards that lives by the mantra "I wish the Bills could cheat as good as the Patriots!"