Doc Brown Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 This just shows that you need more than just a good QB to win. Saints have a hall of fame QB and will probably miss the playoffs once again True and I'd call Brees as an elite QB rather than simply good, but the fact still remains you need a franchise QB to have sustained success in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 is this sean payton's last season with Saints if they finish 7-9 or worse again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Extend the game by going for the FG. You go for it and get nothing.....Game Over down three scores at 26-9. You should familiarize yourself with analytics. Going for 3 was a horrible move there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 True and I'd call Brees as an elite QB rather than simply good, but the fact still remains you need a franchise QB to have sustained success in this league. Elite is right. Hall of fame lock. No doubter. His career numbers are almost like a video game. But hey, at least he got that 1, unlike Marino...or Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 You should familiarize yourself with analytics. Going for 3 was a horrible move there. What does analytics say about being in scoring territory three previous times without getting in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 True and I'd call Brees as an elite QB rather than simply good, but the fact still remains you need a franchise QB to have sustained success in this league. Yep exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Isnt a 2 point conversion over 50 percent success rate? Thats about how far that 4th down would of been. Just how many chances like that do you think you are going to get in the last 8 mins. It was Jauronish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 What does analytics say about being in scoring territory three previous times without getting in? Doesn't matter. Their only chance to win was to score a TD there. Minnesota with the ball, up 14 with 8 minutes left spells game over. "Extending the game" is meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Doesn't matter. Their only chance to win was to score a TD there. Minnesota with the ball, up 14 with 8 minutes left spells game over. "Extending the game" is meaningless. Analytics that! @sn590gbrady Drew Brees in red zone passing tonight - 2 of 7, 16 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Analytics that! @sn590gbrady Drew Brees in red zone passing tonight - 2 of 7, 16 yards. How'd that field goal work out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 Analytics that! @sn590gbrady Drew Brees in red zone passing tonight - 2 of 7, 16 yards. So your using that to bet that he gets there twice and gets in both times in the last 8 (with Vikings getting the ball first) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 How'd that field goal work out? So your using that to bet that he gets there twice and gets in both times in the last 8 (with Vikings getting the ball first) Talk to the SB winning coach. Maybe he'll take your collective analytics' advice next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 Talk to the SB winning coach. Maybe he'll take your collective analytics' advice next time. Sean's not done well by the numbers for several years. I'd venture you can count him as high as nearly any reason drew isn't seeing more wins. He's terribly inconsistent the last several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Sean's not done well by the numbers for several years. I'd venture you can count him as high as nearly any reason drew isn't seeing more wins. He's terribly inconsistent the last several years. Their free agent player acquisitions and cap management have been horrendous in recent years as evidenced by one Mr. Byrd as you know I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I'm just curious, but will these "garbage time" stats count for Brees? Or do they stop keeping stats after the 2nd quarter here? I remember that being a very important point for Tyrod haters last season. hey look! a really high throw for a WR in the end zone and it was caught! Was that a good pass or a bad pass by Brees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 Their free agent player acquisitions and cap management have been horrendous in recent years as evidenced by one Mr. Byrd as you know I'm sure. I'm normally the one that gives the speech - and galette and Graham were even worse contracts for them. That said, if you think Sean can't be questioned, you haven't watched him much since the super bowl season. He's wildly inconsistent. And yea, that's both on the field and in the front office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I'm normally the one that gives the speech - and galette and Graham were even worse contracts for them. That said, if you think Sean can't be questioned, you haven't watched him much since the super bowl season. He's wildly inconsistent. And yea, that's both on the field and in the front office. He's certainly fallible like all coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Talk to the SB winning coach. Maybe he'll take your collective analytics' advice next time. It doesn't change the fact that it was an awful decision that took away any chance his team had to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 It doesn't change the fact that it was an awful decision that took away any chance his team had to win. They weren't going to win either way as MIN is the superior team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I don't know if it's voodoo or what, but Saints at home are a different team. That is a very good point actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 He's certainly fallible like all coaches. Come on- he hired Rob Ryan and isn't even related to him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Come on- he hired Rob Ryan and isn't even related to him! I got nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Come on- he hired Rob Ryan and isn't even related to him! HAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 They weren't going to win either way as MIN is the superior team. If they score a TD there, they have about a 5% chance. By kicking a FG he reduced that to under 1%. A good coach makes decisions that increase--not decrease--his team's chance of winning, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 I got nothing! Jokes aside- I think kromer coming back would be a serious impact, among a few other changes. Giving drew real protection while actually investing less in the unit would go a loooong way though. He was also a solid run game Coordinator. Instead they clung to joe "cant develop a single LB" vitt, a terrible special teams coach etc... The real question mark though has to be is "post suspension, divorce, and drug allegations" Sean Peyton the same coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Jokes aside- I think kromer coming back would be a serious impact, among a few other changes. Giving drew real protection while actually investing less in the unit would go a loooong way though. He was also a solid run game Coordinator. Instead they clung to joe "cant develop a single LB" vitt, a terrible special teams coach etc... The real question mark though has to be is "post suspension, divorce, and drug allegations" Sean Peyton the same coach? Change of venue would likely do Payton some good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Come on- he hired Rob Ryan and isn't even related to him! That was great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 It is crazy. Also don't forget, that includes games started by EJ. Drew Brees has played every single one of those games except for 1. Their current run is crazy. I hope they leave some in the tank for October. Tomorrow the Indians will try to win as many games in a row as the Browns have won total since 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 @ESPNStatsInfo Most Rushing Yards By Rookie Week 1 Kareem Hunt 148 Dalvin Cook 127 Leonard Fournette 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Haven't read through this thread but Sean Payton's ego got the best of him late in the first half. It was absolutely ridiculous for him to use those timeouts after Bradford had just shredded his defense for a TD moments earlier. That decision put the Saints in a huge hole going into halftime. The correct play on the road was to be conservative. Bradford looked really good, and Cook was excellent as the game wore on. The Vikings are a sneaky deep playoff pick, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Really nice drive to start here. Tons of motion and packaging Wasn't a fan of Rhodes giving the shove after the tackle earlier- just a schmuck move He's no saint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) I only just tuned in. Is something wrong with Brees? or is Minny's D starting like they started last year? They seem to want to run the ball more this year with rotating 3 RBs....Brees has also lost some good receivers the last couple of years Edited September 12, 2017 by nucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 yea bradford looked really good. kind of amazing actually. completion percentage is off the charts. he's looking like kurt warner in his hayday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) I can't fathom this throw. Watched it a couple dozen times. Sam Bradford is a wizard, Harry. https://twitter.com/Cianaf/status/907395977983733761 Edit - my apologies to the millions of you already blocked by Cian. Edited September 12, 2017 by Blokestradamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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