Would you accept Colin Kaepernick as a Buffalo Bill?

[Buffalo Barbarian]

I don't care if they call us racist or not I don't want his ass on this team. Is kneeling down and essentially pissing on the national anthem is pure bull crap if people don't like my opinion on it I don't really give a damn

I'm with you!

[JM2009]

I don't care if they call us racist or not I don't want his ass on this team. Is kneeling down and essentially pissing on the national anthem is pure bull crap if people don't like my opinion on it I don't really give a damn

I agree.

[Boatdrinks]

I'm as patriotic as the next guy, both grandparents served and survived with valor and honor in WWII. The flag and the anthem are emotional symbols of an unrealized ideal society where equality, opportunity and equity and realized by all. If we as a country believe the symbol is more important than the practice, we're emotional fools, lacking the ability to question when the ideal is not achieved. It is inarguable that the flag and anthem are conflated with law enforcement, that somehow what law enforcement does is uphold the unrealized ideals the flag symbolized, not guarantees. I don't and never will fly the flag on my house, and neither did my grandfathers who saw the country and imperfect despite serving. I don't blindly support law enforcement or the military. Our country, believe it or not, was founded on the belief that blind loyalty to the ruling class and their support structure (law enforcement, military, policy) only continued to marginalize and exploit everyone else and was not equitable nor democratic. So why do we worship slaves owners for their rebellion against jolly old England and refusal to recognize the flag but for Kaepernick, we're hypocritical and don't understand his message?

 

I'd take Kaepernick of the tire fire that is TT right now. He's better than every back up in this league and at least 30% or more of the starters. Is he a pro bowler? Nope. But he's better than the ENTIRE QB lineup right now in Bflo, Cleveland, Jax, SF, NYJ, Den, Chi, and LAR. He'd give the starters in Balt, Miami, KC, Cinci, Hou a legit challenge.

 

What else would expect from a league full of old white owners?

Thanks Zo but you are misguided. The ideal has never been realized nor will it ever be ( ( America is not nor will She ever be perfect) . That doesn't mean we don't hold those ideals dear and honor our flag and Country and anthem by standing in silence when it is played. Kap may be better than some guys out there, but that doesn't mean I want him on my team. He's just not that good to make the Circus that will arrive with him something that the team willwant to deal with. So excuse me, I have to go tend to my Confederate flag now. It's just a symbol, no need to be upset over it and I'm glad you are so understanding.

Bottom line, Kap isn't that good and is being taught a lesson that his one time employer doesn't owe him a job.

[RyanC883]

I don't care if they call us racist or not I don't want his ass on this team. Is kneeling down and essentially pissing on the national anthem is pure bull crap if people don't like my opinion on it I don't really give a damn

 

I totally agree with you--and so does Jim Brown!

[r00tabaga]

I'm not sure exactly what he was protesting by not rising to honor America during the playing of the anthem like everyone else. But he's as much of an idiot as the guy sitting down while he scarfs Nachos with his hat on in row 5. Is that guy " protesting" too? No he's just an idiot.

You have NO idea what he was protesting? I'm calling bull ****.

[Spurna]

I HAVE COME FROM THE FUTURE

 

Here's a pic I took while walking by a tailgate at the home opener:

 

[Marty McFly]

Tyrod Taylor > Kapernick


I wouldnt B word and moan like some of you. Tyrod is a better QB so I wouldnt wanna waste the cap on it, it makes no sense if they bring in anyone it should be a pocket passer that makes his reads and throws quick. I respect Kap's right to exercise his freedom of speech. Some of you people that condemn Kap would allow those neo nazis to run a rally fueled by hatred. That hurts. I wish we could do better as a world but it is what it is.

[boyst]

What's the 1 week angle?

I don't see us carrying 3 QBs this year. We aren't cutting Peterman. I don't think they'll risk PSing him. But they may. They may be hoping to get a roster cut.

 

I would much rather let the week play out with someone who won't cost us more than about $3.50 and take a look next sunday

I HAVE COME FROM THE FUTURE

 

Here's a pic I took while walking by a tailgate at the home opener:

 

quoting this so it can't be deleted. Reporting this so you're banned.

 

Byebye

[Spurna]

quoting this so it can't be deleted. Reporting this so you're banned.

 

Byebye

 

You tried this 2 years ago and got suspended for harassing me via PM

 

You are very dumb and racist

[Kirby Jackson]

Would I accept Kaepernick on this team? Absolutely I would. I have no issues with him taking a stance (or a knee in this case). On the other hand I think that it makes zero sense for the Bills to bring him in. His level of play doesn't warrant the circus that comes with him. I agree with Shady on that.

[boyst]

 

You tried this 2 years ago and got suspended for harassing me via PM

 

You are very dumb and racist

no I didn't. I've never been suspended by anyone than beerball when he was on his crusade and that was shortened. And when I said we should ban trucks for 24 hours.

 

I don't know if I've ever PM'd you, for the record because I don't care.

Edited August 28, 2017 by Boyst62

[Spurna]

no I didn't. I've never been suspended by anyone than beerball when he was on his crusade and that was shortened. And when I said we should ban trucks for 24 hours.

 

I don't know if I've ever PM'd you, for the record because I don't care.

 

I can post the PM's where you threatened me

 

Would you like for me to do that

[Nitro]

No. Kaepernick is a no go. He is not worth the head ache.

[boyst]

Would I accept Kaepernick on this team? Absolutely I would. I have no issues with him taking a stance (or a knee in this case). On the other hand I think that it makes zero sense for the Bills to bring him in. His level of play doesn't warrant the circus that comes with him. I agree with Shady on that.

I'd accept Kaepernick before tom brady

 

I can post the PM's where you threatened me

 

Would you like for me to do that

don't care.

 

This thread isn't about you snowflake

Edited August 28, 2017 by Boyst62

[Boatdrinks]

You have NO idea what he was protesting? I'm calling bull ****.

Oh I'm familiar with what he said he was supposedly " protesting" but don't see a connection to America, the anthem, the brave soldiers who fought to keep us free or standing to honor those things and his misguided ideas. It was clear from his explanations that he knew very little about the facts involved in those situations or even what was happening afterward.

[Bills Fan of St Augustine]

He and others need to realize the anthem protest is hollow and meaningless. Over paid athletes only hurt themselves protesting national social issues in this manner. So he's an idiot hurting only himself and really adding nothing to the national discourse. That said, if he could help us win one more game than we would without him, I'd sign him in a heartbeat.

Edited August 28, 2017 by Bills Fan of Maryland

[Boatdrinks]

I HAVE COME FROM THE FUTURE

 

Here's a pic I took while walking by a tailgate at the home opener:

 

Cool. What's your point? That CK isn't the only idiot in America ? Didn't need to go to a tailgate to find that out, but it's almost a guarantee you will find some there. Good for you.

[Spurna]

Cool. What's your point? That CK isn't the only idiot in America ? Didn't need to go to a tailgate to find that out, but it's almost a guarantee you will find some there. Good for you.

 

You sound mad

[Boatdrinks]

You sound mad

I'm not mad at all. You seem quite angry about something though. Going to tailgates to take photos of strange people , starting polls after calling people offensive names such as " racist". That is indicative of an anger problem that you may want to get checked out. Following the Bills may be just too frustrating for you. It's not nice to call people names and make snap judgements about them. Perhaps you could spend time more constructively. Perhaps look into getting a job in law enforcement. You can make a difference. It starts ... with one.

[Spurna]

I'm not mad at all. You seem quite angry about something though. Going to tailgates to take photos of strange people , starting polls after calling people offensive names such as " racist". That is indicative of an anger problem that you may want to get checked out. Following the Bills may be just too frustrating for you. It's not nice to call people names and make snap judgements about them. Perhaps you could spend time more constructively. Perhaps look into getting a job in law enforcement. You can make a difference. It starts ... with one.

 

You still sound mad

[Bills Fan of St Augustine]

 

You sound mad

You need to be banned. There is no room for this shtick on this website regardless of your politics and sociological beliefs. Very poor post in very poor taste.

[Boatdrinks]

You still sound mad

Ok. You are one weird individual.

[AtlantaStampede]

This kid has every right to protest peacefully and I respect his position. He created a massive distraction in a team game though and he must have known his protest could cost him his career. Not because of his opinions but because of the backlash he knew was coming. He put that at risk - granted for a worthy cause but he did this to himself. I think his political stance is bigger than the game to him now. I want guys that put the team first. No distractions. Right or wrong, I don't think he plays again.

[Spurna]

You need to be banned. There is no room for this shtick on this website regardless of your politics and sociological beliefs. Very poor post in very poor taste.

 

Sorry, let me be more like the racist guy with 32,000 posts and pretend like Kaep coming in won't be a problem with a large chunk of the fanbase because they can't handle a black man peacefully protesting oppression

[AtlantaStampede]

The more interesting question; what if we knew Kap could win 10 games this season for the Bills. Would you welcome him then? 10 wins and still doesn't stand for the anthem.

[BobChalmers]

You need to be banned. There is no room for this shtick on this website regardless of your politics and sociological beliefs. Very poor post in very poor taste.

 

++++1000

[Boatdrinks]

Sorry, let me be more like the racist guy with 32,000 posts and pretend like Kaep coming in won't be a problem with a large chunk of the fanbase because they can't handle a black man peacefully protesting oppression

 

A large chunk of the fan base are patriotic and love their country. Even though it's not perfect . We also love our team. I'd have respect for CK if he marched on a street corner with a sign , and didn't wear socks ridiculing law enforcement . The vast majority of whom are good people . Just what he claimed is being done to the group he said he was " protesting " for, he did to others. I'm curious what CK ( and you) felt about the black female Police Officer shot in her car in NYC for no reason? A single mother who pulled herself up by her bootstraps and made something of herself. Did her life matter? Kaep is a hypocrite and a very average football player. I don't respect him for the way he went about sending his " message" . It may have been peaceful , but it was offensive to me. This has zero to do with his race . I don't care if he's Asian , black, white or Hispanic or some combination of them. I would have no problem with Michael Vick as a backup QB. But I'll pass on CK.

The more interesting question; what if we knew Kap could win 10 games this season for the Bills. Would you welcome him then? 10 wins and still doesn't stand for the anthem.

No. Edited August 28, 2017 by Boatdrinks

[reddogblitz]

I would LOVE to have Colin on the Bills. I wanted us to draft him. He threw 16 TDs vs 4 picks on an a train wreck team last year.

 

I couldn't care less about this whole Star Spangled Banana nonsense.

 

I just want to win.

 

Go BILLS!!

[boyst]

I would LOVE to have Colin on the Bills. I wanted us to draft him. He threw 16 TDs vs 4 picks on an a train wreck team last year.

 

I couldn't care less about this whole Star Spangled Banana nonsense.

 

I just want to win.

 

Go BILLS!!

I hope that was not intentional but I laughed still

[Boatdrinks]

I respect your position, though I don't agree with it. I wouldn't take Brady if he did the same thing. The team would, for precisely the reason Shady gave. As a previous poster said, some things are bigger than football.

[Just in Atlanta]

Get out of here with this it's raaaccisstt mouth breathing monotony. So sick of this BS.

 

 

 

 

it'll be buffalo is racist.

[SectionC3]

how is that racist?

 

it's not.

 

#blueteesmatter

 

anyway, going down this rabbit hole is not for this thread. go to ppp and it's on there.

how is that racist?

 

it's not.

 

#blueteesmatter

 

anyway, going down this rabbit hole is not for this thread. go to ppp and it's on there.

What is porn? Brighter minds than mine have said that one "knows it when he (or she) sees it." I'll leave it to everyone else to draw the thinly-veiled analogy.

 

There is a certain irony in champions of the second amendment imploring violence against someone exercising his first amendment rights.

 

With respect to football, Kaep does nothing for the Bills. Surely he is better than Yates, but he also is not what he was a few years ago. If he can't win us 10 games (which he can't), then there is no sense having him here. In that context he most likely either would take reps from peterman, win enough games (assuming he plays) to worsen our draft status without getting us to the playoffs, or both. I appreciate that there is a scenario in which he could win us a handful of games in the absence of our starter that could allow us to reach the playoffs. But I'm a realist and I dont think we will be anywhere near that point.

Get out of here with this it's raaaccisstt mouth breathing monotony. So sick of this BS.

 

How do you feel about Nate Boyer? I'll go back to breathing through my mouth. And rooting for Tyrod, shady, lorax, Hughes, etc.

[wppete]

I don't care about his protest or political views but as simply a QB talent I wouldn't want him on the team. He is a terrible QB IMO. He doesn't see the field well, doesn't throw an accurate ball and doesn't seem like a leader. I'd pass on him as a QB.

[Boatdrinks]

Kind of like the irony of Antifa vs free speech rally. But that's better addressed in another forum. Anyway, CK is likely better than Yates, but we don't need him on the Bills

[Nick the Greek]

If he were to bring the team to the playoffs.. hell yea I'd support that. There needs to be a 3rd choice.. support if he plays good.

[SectionC3]

Kind of like the irony of Antifa vs free speech rally. But that's better addressed in another forum. Anyway, CK is likely better than Yates, but we don't need him on the Bills

You need to spend more time in twobillsdrive and less time reading infowars. I do mean that in a nice way.

Edited August 28, 2017 by SectionC3

[Billsmovinup]

Perhaps. Maybe he should go elsewhere if he thinks it's so bad here, in a Country where he can make millions to play a game.

Ignorance at it best here. Whether you agree with him or not he has the right to express his views. If you cant appreciate that maybe you should move. North Korea might be a good choice.

[4merper4mer]

Sorry, let me be more like the racist guy with 32,000 posts and pretend like Kaep coming in won't be a problem with a large chunk of the fanbase because they can't handle a black man peacefully protesting oppression

 

 

We will probably get some crappy dude for a week like we did with Leinart or Young. Cap hit = 0. Kaepernick costs multi millions and would not beat out Taylor. Even if he is marginally better...I don't think he is but that is opinion....he still would have to learn the offense and sync with his teammates, then the Bills would have to dump Taylor. Peterman is a rookie...possible prospect...and cheap so he isn't going anywhere. It makes no sense, you know it, and it has zeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeero to do with race.

[major]

I would support him as our qb. We live in a free country and he has a right to protest. If we are talking football, it does seem that his game has gone off the rails since harbaugh left the niners. Buffalo won't sign him. Bet we sign RG3

[boyst]

What is porn? Brighter minds than mine have said that one "knows it when he (or she) sees it." I'll leave it to everyone else to draw the thinly-veiled analogy.

 

There is a certain irony in champions of the second amendment imploring violence against someone exercising his first amendment rights.

 

With respect to football, Kaep does nothing for the Bills. Surely he is better than Yates, but he also is not what he was a few years ago. If he can't win us 10 games (which he can't), then there is no sense having him here. In that context he most likely either would take reps from peterman, win enough games (assuming he plays) to worsen our draft status without getting us to the playoffs, or both. I appreciate that there is a scenario in which he could win us a handful of games in the absence of our starter that could allow us to reach the playoffs. But I'm a realist and I dont think we will be anywhere near that point.

 

How do you feel about Nate Boyer? I'll go back to breathing through my mouth. And rooting for Tyrod, shady, lorax, Hughes, etc.

I stopped reading at porn.