Commish Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Cameron Jefferson - whoever he is - is third on the depth chart now behind Glenn [injured] and Henderson [suspended 5 games]. Dawkins is practicing at RT. So what's up with Jefferson, and what's plan "D"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Don't make waves! Kidding, darn good question. Not clear if CG can't go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Bring Langston Walker out of retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Can Austin aPsztor (Browns' FA) play on the left side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Trade a second and third round pick for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Bring Langston Walker out of retirement.Derrick Dockery may also be available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Rueben Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Probably grab someone after the last round of cuts but honestly, Ola may be the best possible if Glenn can't go. Too bad they don't still have Kouandjio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Both tackle positions are very scary ATM. Dawkins can't beat out Jordan Mills at right tackle and might be our starting LT now. Kinda scary. Has Mills improved or is Dawkins just not very good at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 I think Dawkins has struggled more at RT than he did in the spring at LT. People talk about the switch as though it is just a piece of cake but mirroring all your actions is not as easy to get used to as it sounds. Anyone who has gone from driving a right hand drive car to a left hand drive car can attest to that. He played pretty much his whole Temple career at LT and I just feel like he is more comfortable there. The Bills hope is that Cordy recovers and Dawkins wins the RT job which is why at the moment they just want to focus on Dawkins on the right side where he has to learn to mirror himself without the flipping back and forth. However, if Glenn still can't practice by this time next week they need to go back to Dawkins at LT in nt opinion. He is the only realistic option to play there week 1 if Cordy can't go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Trade Glenn for a 2nd. He can't stay healthy and he will want a big pay day again in a few years. 7 picks in the first 3 round! We need more picks!! He is under a long term contract. You dont have an out with him until after the 2018 season. Probably grab someone after the last round of cuts but honestly, Ola may be the best possible if Glenn can't go. Too bad they don't still have Kouandjio. Kouandijo looks like trash in Detriot Add the off field stuff And the i dont think he is a fit for zone blocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) He is under a long term contract. You dont have an out with him until after the 2018 season. Kouandijo looks like trash in Detriot Add the off field stuff And the i dont think he is a fit for zone blocking Worse than Henderson has looked? I seriously doubt it. He was good enough last season that many on this board were advocating that the Bills move Glenn to RT so that the Bills have their best 5 linemen on the field. Now he suddenly stinks so bad that he can't even be a backup? It sounds more like sour grapes to me. Edited August 15, 2017 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) Worse than Henderson has looked? I seriously doubt it. He was good enough last season that many on this board were advocating that the Bills move Glenn to RT so that the Bills have their best 5 linemen on th field. Now he suddenky stinks so bad that he can't even be a backup? It sounds more like sour grapes to me.Yep. Watch the Detriot game. And it also sounds like you dont understand blocking systems and the difference between last years and this year And sounds like you don't understand off field issues is not a good look for a player that doesnt fit your system. And very overvalued his play last year he was OK but nothing there telling me to mive glenn to RT and play him at LT Edited August 15, 2017 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Yep. Watch the Detriot game. And it also sounds like you dont understand blocking systems and the difference between last years and this year And sounds like you don't understand off field issues is not a good look for a player that doesnt fit your system. And very overvalued his play last year he was OK but nothing there telling me to mive glenn to RT and play him at LT Right. I don't understand. You can think you see lots of reasons in intangibles but his play on the field last season was at least of backup quality. Cutting him before camp even started and leaving no viable LT backup from day 1 doesn't sound like a good plan, but you obviously think otherwise. I hope it works out, but if it does it's really just luck because there is apparent backup plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Derrick Dockery may also be available. Rueben Brown Dudes, they were guards not tackles, although they both played on the left side. I think Dawkins has struggled more at RT than he did in the spring at LT. People talk about the switch as though it is just a piece of cake but mirroring all your actions is not as easy to get used to as it sounds. Anyone who has gone from driving a right hand drive car to a left hand drive car can attest to that. He played pretty much his whole Temple career at LT and I just feel like he is more comfortable there. The Bills hope is that Cordy recovers and Dawkins wins the RT job which is why at the moment they just want to focus on Dawkins on the right side where he has to learn to mirror himself without the flipping back and forth. However, if Glenn still can't practice by this time next week they need to go back to Dawkins at LT in nt opinion. He is the only realistic option to play there week 1 if Cordy can't go. Agreed. Not only is the switch difficult because everything is reversed, but RTs and LTs tend to have different skill sets. RTs tend to be larger, less mobile, but stronger. They're usually a key to success in the running game. LTs tend to be taller and rangier, often with longer arms, and with more quickness. They are a key to successful pass protection because most QBs are righties, so they're "blind" to their left. It's much more likely that slower, less agile collegiate LTs successfully switch to RT in the NFL than vice versa, and often make top notch pro RTs like Brian Bulaga of the Packers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Derrick Dockery may also be available. Bring Langston Walker out of retirement. Trey Teague or GTFO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 I'll keep saying that cutting kujo seemed short sighted unless there was a lot more that we didn't know. The kid was a cheap and serviceable player at an expensive and hard to fill position that had an injured starter. I don't see many reasons to rush him off the roster and would have kept him until cut day to see both his own progression and cordys health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Dudes, they were guards not tackles, although they both played on the left side. Agreed. Not only is the switch difficult because everything is reversed, but RTs and LTs tend to have different skill sets. RTs tend to be larger, less mobile, but stronger. They're usually a key to success in the running game. LTs tend to be taller and rangier, often with longer arms, and with more quickness. They are a key to successful pass protection because most QBs are righties, so they're "blind" to their left. It's much more likely that slower, less agile collegiate LTs successfully switch to RT in the NFL than vice versa, and often make top notch pro RTs like Brian Bulaga of the Packers. Sorry, meant Ruben Studdard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsmovinup Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Trade Glenn for a 2nd. He can't stay healthy and he will want a big pay day again in a few years. 7 picks in the first 3 round! We need more picks!! Who is giving up a 2 for an LT with a bad wheel and a huge contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Dawkins at LT and Mills at RT. There you have it folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Probably grab someone after the last round of cuts but honestly, Ola may be the best possible if Glenn can't go. Too bad they don't still have Kouandjio.Ola? God please NO , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Dawkins at LT and Mills at RT. There you have it folks agree , keep playing him at LT until Glenn is 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 agree , keep playing him at LT until Glenn is 100% If they think Glenn will miss regular season time this is absolutely what they should do. They might have to accept that this would slow down his transition to the RT spot and it might be next camp before he takes over the starting role there... but if Glenn is hurt they need Dawkins to play LT. Henderson is both suspended and rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 If they think Glenn will miss regular season time this is absolutely what they should do. They might have to accept that this would slow down his transition to the RT spot and it might be next camp before he takes over the starting role there... but if Glenn is hurt they need Dawkins to play LT. Henderson is both suspended and rubbish. I don't agree with the rubbish bit. Not yet anyways. But that hardly matters in the here and now. Give Dawkins all the LT reps even if he is better then Mills at RT. kinda sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Trade Glenn for a 2nd. He can't stay healthy and he will want a big pay day again in a few years. 7 picks in the first 3 round! We need more picks!! I get that you're about 90% joking here, but Glenn has stayed on the field pretty well. Three of his five years here, he played 16 games. 72 games in five years, that's pretty durable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Demetress ... Demetress ... Demetress!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I'm 100% joking. You don't trade quality starting LTs. Obviously. And he is not just quality. He is borderline elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Henderson was a serviceable swing OT when healthy and in condition. I would hope he recovers his form after the 5 game suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I'm 100% joking. You don't trade quality starting LTs. Unless you're the Bills ... which they did in 2009 when they traded away All Pro LT Jason Peters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Didn't we have a cheap, sunk cost backup OT just for this possibility? McBeane strikes again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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