C.Biscuit97 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/19380236/nfl-westgate-las-vegas-reveals-unders-all-32-nfl-teams Call you me shot and let's see who the experts are. Best bets for me: Bills O6.5 - safest bet in sports. We win enough games to not be terrible and to never draft high enough for a stud qb. Browns O4.5 - I can't believe I'm saying this but I like what the Browns are doing. Indianapolis O8.5 - Luck has gone from overrated to underrated. They got rid of the worst GM in sports. They will be back in the playoffs. Houston O8 - they won games with dog crap at qb last year and get Watt back. Watson is going to be solid and it will make me sad since we passed on him. KC U9 - lot of changes and they are going to need Alex Smith to step up. That is a big problem. Also, Mahomes will play this year and he will be good by next season. Detroit O7.5 - they are an 8 win team at worst. Carolina O9 - bad SB hangover, huge bounce back. Tampa O8 - Jameis is a terrible dude but he isn't as fat and they are loaded on offense. They are a playoff team. SF U5 - they are cat poo. What say you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I like a lot of yours. Bills over, Houston over, Cleveland over, Jets under, Baltimore under, Giants over, Vikings under Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 I like a lot of yours. Bills over, Houston over, Cleveland over, Jets under, Baltimore under, Giants over, Vikings under If the Ravens go over, is Flacco elite? And I'm excited for Captian Checkdown Jr Bradford to suck this year and have another team trade a 1st round pick for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 (edited) If the Ravens go over, is Flacco elite? And I'm excited for Captian Checkdown Jr Bradford to suck this year and have another team trade a 1st round pick for him. I'd be impressed if Flacco won 10 games with that team. Their talent isn't good. The Vikings aren't a good team either. Edited July 23, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I would add: Pats* O12.3 Jets U5 And, I wouldn't make the bet on SF, or the Texans. Or, quite frankly, the Bills. As is, sure, we are an 8 win team. But, I fear that we are only one or two injuries away from a 5 win season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I would add: Pats* O12.3 Jets U5 And, I wouldn't make the bet on SF, or the Texans. Or, quite frankly, the Bills. As is, sure, we are an 8 win team. But, I fear that we are only one or two injuries away from a 5 win season. Every team is an injury or 2 away from 5 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Baltimore and Jacksonville overs are my bets this season. Last season was NYG. Hopefully this year is as good. Good luck everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 something catastrophic would have to happen for the Bills to be under, like Tyrod or Shady getting hurt. if they are on pace for under they might as well tank at that point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 (edited) Bills under 6.5. Too many good qb's to face. Jets under 5. No qb = more doom Texans over 8. Watson and Watt ftw Raiders over 9.5. Beast mode/Carr/Cooper/Mack crush the league Buccaneers over 8. Desean Jackson/OJ Howard and Jameis takes another step forward. Edited July 23, 2017 by Maury Ballstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 (edited) Lot depends on the odds you have to lay , as these bets are not simple losing bet pays 10% vig. For instance , right now on Bills you have to lay $150 to win $100 if you like the Bills over. The under on the other hand is +120. If you are betting these online, shop for best odds much as would do anything else. The odds make many of these bets unplayable if you like the side that the public does, with the Bills a great example of that right now. Edited July 23, 2017 by plenzmd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 My overs: Browns over 4.5; Houston over 8; Redskins over 7.5; Saints over 8 (just got a feeling about the Saints this year); My unders: Bengals under 8.5; Broncos under 8; Jets under 5; Cowboys under 9.5; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Every team is an injury or 2 away from 5 wins. Well, sure. But all teams aren't so equal in this respect. It's far more likely, imo, that we lose TT to injury than, say the Packers lose Rogers, or the Pats* lose Brady*. And, the loss of Shady, could be equally devastating, as could the loss of Sammy, for that matter. How many teams' playoff aspirations would be sunk by the loss of their RB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Well, sure. But all teams aren't so equal in this respect. It's far more likely, imo, that we lose TT to injury than, say the Packers lose Rogers, or the Pats* lose Brady*. And, the loss of Shady, could be equally devastating, as could the loss of Sammy, for that matter. How many teams' playoff aspirations would be sunk by the loss of their RB?Just a couple (maybe Pittsburgh and Arizona). Every team is out (or at least could be) without their QB. Every team has guys that are indispensable though. Von Miller, Khalil Mack, Julio and guys like that are obvious. There are lesser guys too like Cam Jordan and Travis Kelce that their teams can't be without. They just don't have someone to fill that role. Any team that loses their best players is in trouble in a league with such a small margin for error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 (edited) A couple of years ago Green Bay went to hell when David Baktiari went down. They still had the best Quarterback on the planet but he wasn't getting a chance to plant a foot before a pass rusher was in his grill. It is faaar from only Buffalo who have indispensable non Quarterbacks. Edited July 23, 2017 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/19380236/nfl-westgate-las-vegas-reveals-unders-all-32-nfl-teams Call you me shot and let's see who the experts are. Best bets for me: Bills O6.5 - safest bet in sports. We win enough games to not be terrible and to never draft high enough for a stud qb. Browns O4.5 - I can't believe I'm saying this but I like what the Browns are doing. Indianapolis O8.5 - Luck has gone from overrated to underrated. They got rid of the worst GM in sports. They will be back in the playoffs. Houston O8 - they won games with dog crap at qb last year and get Watt back. Watson is going to be solid and it will make me sad since we passed on him. KC U9 - lot of changes and they are going to need Alex Smith to step up. That is a big problem. Also, Mahomes will play this year and he will be good by next season. Detroit O7.5 - they are an 8 win team at worst. Carolina O9 - bad SB hangover, huge bounce back. Tampa O8 - Jameis is a terrible dude but he isn't as fat and they are loaded on offense. They are a playoff team. SF U5 - they are cat poo. What say you? you're being far too generous. carolina is in a heap of a mess. indianapolis could be the one to actually do better worth a hill of beans tampa just nah i do like detroit a little and kc could win 8-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Just a couple (maybe Pittsburgh and Arizona). Every team is out (or at least could be) without their QB. Every team has guys that are indispensable though. Von Miller, Khalil Mack, Julio and guys like that are obvious. There are lesser guys too like Cam Jordan and Travis Kelce that their teams can't be without. They just don't have someone to fill that role. Any team that loses their best players is in trouble in a league with such a small margin for error. A couple of years ago Green Bay went to hell when David Baktiari went down. They still had the best Quarterback on the planet but he wasn't getting a chance to plant a foot before a pass rusher was in his grill. It is faaar from only Buffalo who have indispensable non Quarterbacks. OK. O6.5 it is! (wait a minute... is that right?...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 It's a sign of the apocalypse for someone loving both the Browns and Bills SO MuCH that they were compelled to start a new thread about it. The combined win total of the Bills and Browns would compete for the 2nd Wild Card sport maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 It's a sign of the apocalypse for someone loving both the Browns and Bills SO MuCH that they were compelled to start a new thread about it. The combined win total of the Bills and Browns would compete for the 2nd Wild Card sport maybe. I suppose you mean just this year? Their combined wins in 2015 was 11 Their combined wins in 2014 was 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Bills O6.5 - Under - I think we are a 4 win team because of who we've lost, who we've replaced them with and mostly, who we've kept (QB).Browns O4.5 - AgreeIndianapolis O8.5 - Under - This is just a gut feeling of mine. I, too, think Luck is the real deal. I just have a feeling that things around him will crumble.Houston O8 - Under - They're gonna miss Wade and I think Watt retires mid-season due to another back injury.KC U9 - Agree. Detroit O7.5 - Agree.Carolina O9 - Agree.Tampa O8 - .Agree.SF U5 - Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 It's a sign of the apocalypse for someone loving both the Browns and Bills SO MuCH that they were compelled to start a new thread about it. The combined win total of the Bills and Browns would compete for the 2nd Wild Card sport maybe. You completely missed the point of the thread. you're being far too generous. carolina is in a heap of a mess. indianapolis could be the one to actually do better worth a hill of beans tampa just nah i do like detroit a little and kc could win 8-9 I am shocked you didn't like the Carolina pick!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 Bills O6.5 - Under - I think we are a 4 win team because of who we've lost, who we've replaced them with and mostly, who we've kept (QB). Browns O4.5 - Agree Indianapolis O8.5 - Under - This is just a gut feeling of mine. I, too, think Luck is the real deal. I just have a feeling that things around him will crumble. Houston O8 - Under - They're gonna miss Wade and I think Watt retires mid-season due to another back injury. KC U9 - Agree. Detroit O7.5 - Agree. Carolina O9 - Agree. Tampa O8 - .Agree. SF U5 - Agree. Houston didn't have Wade the last couple of years and were the #1 defense basically without Watt. Denver 8.0- under Houston 8.0- under Cincy 8.5- under I can't get a feel on Denver and Cincy. If Denver gets any decent qb and running back play, they will be tough. Cincy also had a ton of losses last year so I'm not sure if they are bad or just had a bad year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Houston didn't have Wade the last couple of years and were the #1 defense basically without Watt. Yea Wade hasn't been there for 3 years now. I think he might be mistaking Wade with Romeo Crennel who has been their DC (and has a very good record as a DC in the league) who "stepped down" in the offseason to ensure they could keep Mike Vrabel by promoting him. Crennel is now Assistant Head Coach and Defensive consultant though so I imagine he is still having plenty of input and Vrabel played in Crennel's defense for the Patriots so I doubt you will see huge scheme change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 Yea Wade hasn't been there for 3 years now. I think he might be mistaking Wade with Romeo Crennel who has been their DC (and has a very good record as a DC in the league) who "stepped down" in the offseason to ensure they could keep Mike Vrabel by promoting him. Crennel is now Assistant Head Coach and Defensive consultant though so I imagine he is still having plenty of input and Vrabel played in Crennel's defense for the Patriots so I doubt you will see huge scheme change. I can see Vrabel being a head coach one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I can see Vrabel being a head coach one day. I can see him being one next year. He interviewed in San Fran this time I think..... If he coordinates a top 5 defense this year and the Texans go to the playoffs he will be one of the hot candidates next January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Bills - Over Charges 7.5 - under Cowboys 9.5 under Panthers 9 - under New England 12.5, I like the under at 12-4 and you still win. Sounds good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) Bills O6.5 - safest bet in sports. We win enough games to not be terrible and to never draft high enough for a stud qb. The Bills winning 7 games this season is the safest bet in sports? Is this sarcasm relating to the 18 years of mediocrity? Because if not, in my mind at least right now the Bills are a 7-9 win team. But with who they lost, Shady a year older, and an entirely new coaching staff (with a lot of them doing their current job for the first time ever), less than 7 wins is very possible. Edited July 24, 2017 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Bills - Over Charges 7.5 - under Cowboys 9.5 under Panthers 9 - under New England 12.5, I like the under at 12-4 and you still win. Sounds good to me. Panthers under 8.5 is + 145, i like that bet BTW, the Jets under 4.5 is MINUS $200...everybody and their brother betting that, using a strong indication to bet the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 The Bills winning 7 games this season is the safest bet in sports? Is this sarcasm relating to the 18 years of mediocrity? Because if not, in my mind at least right now the Bills are a 7-9 win team. But with who they lost, Shady a year older, and an entirely new coaching staff (with a lot of them doing their current job for the first time ever), less than 7 wins is very possible. Without doing the research, I would bet we have averaged 7 wins per season during the drought. We aren't good, we aren't terrible, we are slightly below average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 You completely missed the point of the thread. I am shocked you didn't like the Carolina pick!!! it's nice with Carolina. I am a fan by default. Keeping up with them whether I want to or not because locality. I want them to succeed because j like seeing things work. I am arguably more honest on them than I am buffalo because I allow myself to see the faults. Once Olsen retires they're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 It's so kind of the NFL to allow the Bills to win 7 games every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) USA Today predicts season for each team Bills 4-12 ouch , won't happen KC 8-8 would be nice https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2017/07/24/nfl-record-projections-predictions-patriots-cowboys-raiders-steelers/500328001/ Edited July 25, 2017 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Would it be legal to set up a betting pool where TBDers can back up their predictions with a friendly wager? Doesn't have to be be big money. $10-20 on how many wins the Bills finish with. Winners split the pool evenly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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