teef Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 He was an economics major. ah. maybe he does go into the business side of things. i'm sure whatever he does he'll put 100% into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Fantasy land. Fitz is a choker when the lights are the brightest. He's proven that time and time again with exhibit A being the 2015 season finale where he predictably turned into an interception machine with the NYJ playoff chances there for the taking. with the defense we had we needed smart football. He had that for us. We could have limited his turnovers by playing him like we do Taylor. Both Taylor and Fitz are equal in quality. History tainted fitz. It will taytay when he is gone, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I don't think it's fair to say he's a choker. He just doesn't have the physical talents (arm strength being the most obvious) to win in those big spots. Teams just start to take away the quick outs and stuff over the middle and he becomes a much easier QB to defend and makes more mistakes. Its more physical errors than the mental ones I associate with being a choker. He's a choker. Or, if you don't like the word, let's just say he doesn't deliver in the clutch. If Fitz had physical problems, his performance would be the same at different times during the game. But that isn't true in his case. When the game is on the line, he plays worse than the rest of the game. Over his career, Fitz threw 29% of his passes in the fourth quarter or in overtime. He threw 30% of his TDs in the fourth quarter or overtime - that's what you'd expect. But Fitzy threw - get this - 45% of his INTs in the fourth quarter or overtime. That means he's making bad decisions with the football. If he had physical problems, his INTs would be or less the same as his attempts and TDs. Compare him to a successful gunslinger - Roethlisberger. Like Fitzy, Ben takes risks. Difference is, Ben knows which risks to take. Over his career, Ben threw 25% of his passes in the fourth quarter and overtime, 27% of his TDs (a lot like Fitzy) but only 31% of his INTs. Late in the game, if you're losing, you're going to take some risks that result in more INTs. That's why Ben's INT rate is higher than his attempt rate. But the point is, Ben's INT rate is in the ballpark with his attempt rate. Fitz's isn't. Fitz takes bad bets with the ball in the fourth quarter - he always has. Call that choking, call it bad decision making. Call it whatever you want. The data coincides with what we all think we've seen from him for years - Fitz takes his team out of games with ill-advised late-game throws. I give Fitz credit - he plays with no fear. He isn't afraid to make mistakes. But when it's your last possession, down 5 pionts, it's third and 8 and you throw an INT, that's a really, really bad play. Fitz specializes in it. He was an economics major. When he came to Buffalo, he said that his junior year in college he was planning on getting a job on Wall Street. Then he started getting interest from the pros, and he unexpectedly ended up with a football career. Someone asked him then what he'd do when he retired. He said probably go home to Arizona and drink beer. If he's made $54 million, he's probably paid $15 million in taxes, so he's around $40 million net. Probably spent a half million a year for the past 12 years. So he's saved maybe $30 million. Obviously, I don't talk to Fitz so I don't know what he's thinking, but I doubt he'll go to Wall Street. He's set for life (he can take $750,000 a year for life from his investments, and you can live a pretty good life on that). Why would he move his family to New York and plug himself into that rat race, just so he can earn another $1 million a year? He'll do something more than sit around and drink beer, but I'm betting it big-time investment banking is no longer in his future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Save for Kurt Warner, he has made more money ($54 million, including the Tampa Bay one year deal) than any QB in NFL history drafted later than him (250th, 7th round), or undrafted. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tampa-bay-buccaneers/ryan-fitzpatrick-1336/cash-earnings/ I dont know why.....but when I think of Fitz I immediately think of Peterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I dont know why.....but when I think of Fitz I immediately think of Peterman Wait......Did Peterman also go to Harvard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Actually seemed to chill a guy and ethical to work on Wall Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 smart guy...did you know that he went to Harvard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 do you like apples??? I got her number ($54 million) how do you like them apples??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
re enlightener Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I always loved his line that went something like "I picked the one job in the world where having a Harvard degree is considered a bad thing." I heard prostitute is the other. just saying. Fitz is still choking btw, on his steak lunch at some fine restaurant right now as we right about him sucking, and being a rich mfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) Tony Romo? Yup just checked, he made $127 million. Tony Romo was not drafted. He specifically said drafted and then cited Kurt Warner who many (not Cowboy fans) consider the best UDFA QB ever. Over his career, Fitz threw 29% of his passes in the fourth quarter or in overtime. He threw 30% of his TDs in the fourth quarter or overtime - that's what you'd expect. But Fitzy threw - get this - 45% of his INTs in the fourth quarter or overtime. That means he's making bad decisions with the football. If he had physical problems, his INTs would be or less the same as his attempts and TDs. He was often behind or on weak teams so he took chances - just citing stats is a failing argument since it is not accounting for situation. Edited June 21, 2017 by Limeaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) Tony Romo was not drafted. He specifically said drafted. Nope, sorry he didn't... Save for Kurt Warner, he has made more money ($54 million, including the Tampa Bay one year deal) than any QB in NFL history drafted later than him (250th, 7th round), or undrafted. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tampa-bay-buccaneers/ryan-fitzpatrick-1336/cash-earnings/ And besides that Kurt Warner wasn't drafted, so there's that. Edited June 21, 2017 by Wayne Cubed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 do you like apples??? I got her number ($54 million) how do you like them apples??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Wait......Did Peterman also go to Harvard? The University of Pittsburgh is often called the Harvard of western PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Yea and so was Kurt Warner, who the OP mentions. So it really should read, besides Kurt Warner and Tony Romo... I don't read so good....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT02 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I disagree because he makes plenty of dumb decisions (that lead him into physical errors) as a QB irrespective of his Harvard pedigree. I don't the mistakes were mainly bad decisions, he takes higher risks but the bigger issue is the inability to fit the ball into tight spots or loosen up the defenses with the threat of the long ball He's a choker. Or, if you don't like the word, let's just say he doesn't deliver in the clutch. If Fitz had physical problems, his performance would be the same at different times during the game. But that isn't true in his case. When the game is on the line, he plays worse than the rest of the game. Over his career, Fitz threw 29% of his passes in the fourth quarter or in overtime. He threw 30% of his TDs in the fourth quarter or overtime - that's what you'd expect. But Fitzy threw - get this - 45% of his INTs in the fourth quarter or overtime. That means he's making bad decisions with the football. If he had physical problems, his INTs would be or less the same as his attempts and TDs. Compare him to a successful gunslinger - Roethlisberger. Like Fitzy, Ben takes risks. Difference is, Ben knows which risks to take. Over his career, Ben threw 25% of his passes in the fourth quarter and overtime, 27% of his TDs (a lot like Fitzy) but only 31% of his INTs. Late in the game, if you're losing, you're going to take some risks that result in more INTs. That's why Ben's INT rate is higher than his attempt rate. But the point is, Ben's INT rate is in the ballpark with his attempt rate. Fitz's isn't. Fitz takes bad bets with the ball in the fourth quarter - he always has. Call that choking, call it bad decision making. Call it whatever you want. The data coincides with what we all think we've seen from him for years - Fitz takes his team out of games with ill-advised late-game throws. I give Fitz credit - he plays with no fear. He isn't afraid to make mistakes. But when it's your last possession, down 5 pionts, it's third and 8 and you throw an INT, that's a really, really bad play. Fitz specializes in it. The QB's you mentioned all have much better arms than Fitzy, they make throws that would be interceptions if thrown by him. I can think of several late and close games where Fitzpatrick made some late plays win win games just as he has lost them. Choking generally refers to a player getting uptight, afraid to lose, playing scared. I don't think that describes Fitzy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) Ryan Fitzpatrick having a career as an NFL quarterback seems like it was a science experiment. Or the result of him winning a contest. The guy is truly atrocious. Edited June 21, 2017 by QB Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Ryan Fitzpatrick having a career as an NFL quarterback seems like it was a science experiment. Or the result of him winning a contest. The guy is truly atrocious. Silly post. He is one of the 40 best qbs on the planet. Jealous is an ugly trait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 May not have been mentioned before but he did go to Harvard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 May not have been mentioned before but he did go to Harvard. Also, look closely when the Bucs put him in for mop up this year. You will see he wears his wedding ring when he plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 i love fitz. seems like a great guy with a terrific sense of humor. by all accounts was a great teammate. he played the qb position as if he had about three times as much talents as what he was given. he has a toughness, and he always gave everything he had. one guy i would absolutely love to have a beer with someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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