Augie Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 If you suck, you want to change, right? Yeah, depth may become an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 you change coaches and schemes and you have to get players to fit those schemes. when you change coaches every 2 years it's hard to get the right players. something the Bills obviously don't understand. Which coach should they have kept longer so they could keep more of the same players? Ridiculous how you have absolutely no control over your negativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 I won a bet with a friend last year and he owes me a jersey. I have so many former players in my closet its not funny. I even have Hughes, Dareus and Tyrod in terms of current. I am thinking of going with a drought related jersey, but it's proving a bit tricky. Any good suggestions for name plate and number combos? Thinking Drought #17, but it'll quickly become a duct tape jersey as we approach 20 years. Maybe NoPlayoffs 00? Thoughts? My last jersey purchase was for an old-timer/all-timer in Andre Reed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Who got Rex's truck?? High turnover for the ford also. Two owners in two years. Never did like fords. He had it painted white and put magnetic Clemson emblems on it all within a week after being fired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Of the 68 players who saw the field on at least one game last year, only 32 remain. And that number may get smaller by opening day against the Jets. I don't know what the league average is, but I think TC is right: turnover is staggering. If this is true (68), it's less than pervious years where we had 17 players play who weren't on the opening day roster. The amount of street FA's we've seen due to injuries the past few years could make up a 53 man roster by themselves. We got about 12 full games total out of a possible 48 from our 1st two draft picks last year and Dareus. Yes, TD Mike & Gilmore cashed in and our starting Safeties from last Sept are gone, but I don't think it's all that staggering. For perspective, back in the 60's, we had 33 man teams -and we went to 3 straight League title games. My last jersey purchase was for an old-timer/all-timer in Andre Reed This is the only way to go. My son has an authentic OJ jersey -which gets lots of attention and I still wear my Chandler#81. Anything else becomes car wash rags after a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Of the 68 players who saw the field on at least one game last year, only 32 remain. And that number may get smaller by opening day against the Jets. I don't know what the league average is, but I think TC is right: turnover is staggering. its pretty much a rebuild restart. so it is what it is. go bills. will be a couple years before the thing makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 its pretty much a rebuild restart. so it is what it is. go bills. will be a couple years before the thing makes sense. As stated earlier, the offense remains virtually intact (Woods/Glass replaced by productive vets & 2rd pick). With Kyle returning and Shaq up to speed, the DL appears solid and there's considerable talent at LB & CB/Nickle. The primary kicking specialists are new but appear improved. We've been an 8-8 team (again virtually) for 3 seasons with literally poor coaching. I'm not 'pie in the sky' hopeful, but with better management and yes, FEWER injuries, I expect the Bills to be a highly competitive team this season -even with a regime change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 As stated earlier, the offense remains virtually intact (Woods/Glass replaced by productive vets & 2rd pick). With Kyle returning and Shaq up to speed, the DL appears solid and there's considerable talent at LB & CB/Nickle. The primary kicking specialists are new but appear improved. We've been an 8-8 team (again virtually) for 3 seasons with literally poor coaching.I'm not 'pie in the sky' hopeful, but with better management and yes, FEWER injuries, I expect the Bills to be a highly competitive team this season -even with a regime change. From what I see Bob Woods blocking skills have not been replaced by any of the second/third rate replacement scrubs brought in. Woods blocking was not recoginized by a lot of people. They will be missed. As far as Jones he needs to play a season to gauge his NFL game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 From what I see Bob Woods blocking skills have not been replaced by any of the second/third rate replacement scrubs brought in. Woods blocking was not recoginized by a lot of people. They will be missed. As far as Jones he needs to play a season to gauge his NFL game. So if Zay is good early on we should ignore it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 From what I see Bob Woods blocking skills have not been replaced by any of the second/third rate replacement scrubs brought in. Woods blocking was not recoginized by a lot of people. They will be missed. As far as Jones he needs to play a season to gauge his NFL game. I didn't realize Holmes was a scrub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 In 2014, we were on the brink of being a good football team. Then, the Pegulas hired Rex (not the GM who helped build that team) & everything got set back. Hopefully, they hired well or we'll be doing another reload in a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Maybe...Taylor would've never be signed and considering Whaleys track record with QBs we would of probably trotted out EJ for another year to see it blow up in our faces.... Again. We won 7 & 8 games with Tyrod. We win 6-9 with every qb we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 We won 7 & 8 games with Tyrod. We win 6-9 with every qb we have. 7 and 8 wins-and TT didn't play the full season either year. Only QB to due better than 8 wins like he had in 2015, was Bledsoe, during this drought. TT plays in that Jacksonville game in 2015-9 wins. If he played in that game last season 8 wins. Should have had 8 wins again with the second Miami game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Simply put, Rex was a disaster hire. With how good the defense was in 2014, it was lunacy to hire a coach who wanted to change that scheme. We should have hired an offensive coach (Hue Jackson would have been ideal) and made Schwartz the highest paid DC in the league. We should have made Swartz the HC/DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 You simply can not change head coaches every two years. To much turn over and drafting the wrong defensive player that doesn't fit OUR NEXT coaches defense 34- 43-34-43-34 Been beating this drum for years I generally agree with you. But there aren't two - and only two - distinct flavors of defensive football in the NFL. In fact, teams run some version of the nickel something like 60% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 High turnover is expected with a new coaching staff, I expect to start poorly but improve by the end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 50% is high but always expected when you coaching staff and they run a different scheme. On NFLR, they have quoted often that most NFL teams turn over at least 30% of their team each year for various reasons, and higher when you change coaching staffs. I'm not overly concerned about it. What is harder is these players to learn another new system which is why I'm skeptical we make the playoffs, but the Dolphins did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 It's a revolving door for sure. I can't even decide which jersey I'd buy... Obvi Stevie and Knee J were poor choices. I'm now thinking maybe a pegula jersey with 1.4? don't feel bad. I've got a TT Fathead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 If you suck, you want to change, right? Yeah, depth may become an issue. ...versus stand pat, lose, and say in the "best interest of continuity, we can't change"......Whaley does deserve credit for churning this roster 24/7/365 to make it better....his counterparts would go into hibernation in mid-November when Buffalo's season was "officially over" and awaken in April from their "slumber".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I'm concerned about our coin flip depth. We'll have plenty of guys to send out there vs the Panthers in week 2, but what about the other weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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