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On 5/3/2018 at 8:11 PM, njbuff said:

Yeah, the Democratic Party hates white people and crucifies any black person that doesn't follow company policy.

They love the religion of peace which i cant say the name or tibs will call me raysis.

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WASHINGTON, D.C. — On Monday morning, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced a new Religious Liberty Task Force in the Department of Justice (DOJ) to defend religious freedom as laid out in last October's memorandum. In his remarks, Sessions referenced the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) as a threat to religious liberty, suggesting the new task force may investigate or target the left-wing smear group.

 

"A dangerous movement, undetected by many, is now challenging and eroding our great tradition of religious freedom," Sessions declared, adding that this movement "must be confronted and defeated." He also lamented that "one group can actively target religious groups by labeling them a 'hate group' on the basis of their sincerely held religious beliefs."

 

Sessions emphasized that the new Religious Liberty Task Force represents a sea change from the Obama administration, under which federal agencies often used the SPLC "hate group" markings. His direct reference to the SPLC in his remarks suggested that the new Task Force may investigate the left-wing smear group.

 

According to the DOJ, the Task Force will "develop new strategies, involving litigation, policy, and legislation, to protect and promote religious liberty." The DOJ did not respond to PJ Media requests for comment about whether or not this new Task Force would investigate the SPLC, but Christian leaders insisted Sessions' remarks bode ill for the left-wing smear group.

 

"I think that by the Attorney General making this statement today, warning against this dangerous movement, we can predict that the attorney general and the DOJ will take active steps regarding the SPLC," Mat Staver, founder and chairman of the Christian legal nonprofit Liberty Counsel, told PJ Media Monday. Liberty Counsel is suing the charity navigator website GuideStar after it adopted the SPLC "hate group" labels, smearing Liberty Counsel and many others.

 

"My guess is that Sessions is setting the FBI or some outlet of the Justice Department to take an objective look at this whole concept of hate labeling, its impact, its origins, and its legitimacy," Lt. Gen. (Ret.) "Jerry" Boykin, executive vice president of the Family Research Council (FRC), told PJ Media. He suggested the Task Force itself might investigate the SPLC.

 

"The SPLC has targeted religious groups particularly — not exclusively, but particularly Christian groups and Christian individuals — that's why we at FRC were targeted," Boykin explained. The SPLC has marked FRC a "hate group" because the organization supports traditional Christian sexual morality. This marking inspired a terrorist attack against the FRC in 2012.

 

"When you've got an organization in the United States that is illegitimately targeting groups because of their Christian views and you have agencies in the federal government that are legitimizing that data, that is a recipe for disaster," Boykin said, referring to the troubled history of federal agencies relying on SPLC data. On Friday, Fox News' Tucker Carlson reported that the FBI has an "ongoing" relationship with the SPLC.

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The NYPD.

 

From Jan to March of 2018, the NYPD made 4,081 arrests for pot possession. 287 of those were white, although according to FBI data published on their site weed use does not differ substantially by race or ethnicity and further, people generally purchase pot from the people of the same race and or ethnicity. Additionally, arrest rates for pot possession are 4 times higher in Canarsie than they are in Greenpoint, despite police data that shows calls to report use were made by ppl in both neighborhoods at a very similar rate.

 

 

 

 

 

The American criminal justice system.

 

To wit, the 13th amendment:

 

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

 

Well, gee, that makes a nice little incentive to convict now doesn't it?

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7 hours ago, Thurmal34 said:

The NYPD.

 

From Jan to March of 2018, the NYPD made 4,081 arrests for pot possession. 287 of those were white, although according to FBI data published on their site weed use does not differ substantially by race or ethnicity and further, people generally purchase pot from the people of the same race and or ethnicity. Additionally, arrest rates for pot possession are 4 times higher in Canarsie than they are in Greenpoint, despite police data that shows calls to report use were made by ppl in both neighborhoods at a very similar rate.

 

 

 

 

 

The American criminal justice system.

 

To wit, the 13th amendment:

 

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

 

Well, gee, that makes a nice little incentive to convict now doesn't it?

Nice take, you idiot. Can you think of any reasons why there is a supposed different arrest rate?

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11 hours ago, Thurmal34 said:

The NYPD.

 

From Jan to March of 2018, the NYPD made 4,081 arrests for pot possession. 287 of those were white, although according to FBI data published on their site weed use does not differ substantially by race or ethnicity and further, people generally purchase pot from the people of the same race and or ethnicity. Additionally, arrest rates for pot possession are 4 times higher in Canarsie than they are in Greenpoint, despite police data that shows calls to report use were made by ppl in both neighborhoods at a very similar rate.

 

 

 

 

 

The American criminal justice system.

 

To wit, the 13th amendment:

 

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

 

Well, gee, that makes a nice little incentive to convict now doesn't it?

What is this saying, white people don't smoke weed as much as other races?

Its probably true. 

 

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1 hour ago, Kelly101 said:

What is this saying, white people don't smoke weed as much as other races?

Its probably true. 

 

  Other than the most extreme cases I doubt that white people lag behind.  White people most likely infrequently have to buy pot from gangster types who get watched heavily by the law.  I have people that try to sell me pot even though I don't use it.  Not one looks or conducts themselves like a gangster.

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Inequality does not mean inequity.

 

Only someone interested in an agenda, as opposed to the truth, would present isolated data absent any context or other supporting facts or data.

 

In addition to other information presented, I'll offer that the overwhelming majority of simple possession charges which are prosecuted are actually plead down to possession from heftier charges involving distribution, are instances where the offender is using in public, or are individuals who are known criminals rather than first time offenders.

 

 

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6 hours ago, RochesterRob said:

  Other than the most extreme cases I doubt that white people lag behind.  White people most likely infrequently have to buy pot from gangster types who get watched heavily by the law.  I have people that try to sell me pot even though I don't use it.  Not one looks or conducts themselves like a gangster.

Maybe these guys shouldn't dress and/or act like this and their customers wouldn't be arrested

doesn't seem like a racist thing, seems like a thing they bring on themselves.

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7 minutes ago, Kelly101 said:

Maybe these guys shouldn't dress and/or act like this and their customers wouldn't be arrested

doesn't seem like a racist thing, seems like a thing they bring on themselves.

  At the very least non-white pot dealers who run things in a bland and non-flamboyant manner are probably more successful.  They probably learn just like any other business person not all customers are good customers and worth keeping.  A guy lighting up just outside the drug dealer's home is more trouble than he is worth even if he spends heavily. 

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CNN simultaneously attempting to prop up 1A while attempting to shame a gift shop over a T-Shirt is incredible even for them.

 

 

 

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2375_84984116216_633511216_2728356_71328David Burge @iowahawkblog Aug 3

That's the hilarious thing, a 30-year old Korean-American woman with Cal & Harvard degrees on NYT Editorial Board pretending to be Eldridge Cleaver. That there's some next-level minstrelsy.
Seoul On Ice!

 

 
 
 
What's awesome is how progressives are defending Harvard Law graduate Sarah Jeong's racism because she's "punching up."
 
A graduate of Harvard Law School. Punching up.
 
My God, the left today . . . . . .
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20 hours ago, Thurmal34 said:

The NYPD.

 

From Jan to March of 2018, the NYPD made 4,081 arrests for pot possession. 287 of those were white, although according to FBI data published on their site weed use does not differ substantially by race or ethnicity and further, people generally purchase pot from the people of the same race and or ethnicity. Additionally, arrest rates for pot possession are 4 times higher in Canarsie than they are in Greenpoint, despite police data that shows calls to report use were made by ppl in both neighborhoods at a very similar rate.

 

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 Are the calls to report “ use”reporting just that in those neighborhoods? Or do some report dealing and other activities? Bottom line, some folks are just more careful and discreet with their use, purchasing and things like keeping a vehicle maintained properly ( inspection up to date, license plates mounted correctly , all lights functioning etc) in order to not draw attention to themselves. It’s all about not only your attitude toward authority, but knowing how to play “ by the rules” in other areas of life. Most of these busts probably initiated as things like traffic stops or checking into suspicious behavior. The marijuana was found afterward. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don’t know how this happened, but the lower box was my response to thermal ‘s post 

1 hour ago, Kelly101 said:

Maybe these guys shouldn't dress and/or act like this and their customers wouldn't be arrested

doesn't seem like a racist thing, seems like a thing they bring on themselves.

Yep. See my post above. These didn’t start as “ marijuana busts”. Play by the rules in other areas and be discreet. 

8 hours ago, Kelly101 said:

What is this saying, white people don't smoke weed as much as other races?

Its probably true. 

 

No just the opposite. They do. But their behavior probably doesn’t draw attention to them , mostly. 

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1 hour ago, RochesterRob said:

  At the very least non-white pot dealers who run things in a bland and non-flamboyant manner are probably more successful.  They probably learn just like any other business person not all customers are good customers and worth keeping.  A guy lighting up just outside the drug dealer's home is more trouble than he is worth even if he spends heavily. 

 

Clarify something for me: in what world is anyone getting their dope from gangster types?

 

You can get it legally in almost half the country, and the other half of the country doesn't give a crap.  In what world are dope dealers even a thing anymore. Long before it was legal in CA, people smoked it openly pretty much everywhere. Even if police caught you with it, you were safe unless you had a brick in your backpack.

 

Don't misunderstand. I'm not arguing with whatever your larger point might be. But a guy lighting up a joint ANYWHERE is pretty much ignored throughout the country now.

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2 hours ago, RochesterRob said:

  At the very least non-white pot dealers who run things in a bland and non-flamboyant manner are probably more successful.  They probably learn just like any other business person not all customers are good customers and worth keeping.  A guy lighting up just outside the drug dealer's home is more trouble than he is worth even if he spends heavily. 

you do realize we are arguing because people were breaking the law and getting 

arrested for it? How dense can the left get...to blatantly blame the police or racism for 

people breaking the law is pretty dumb. Same issue with illegal immigration, its pretty 

straight forward..or does the concept of lawlessness fit with the lefts idea of socialism?

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On 8/3/2018 at 4:37 PM, Kelly101 said:

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Self proclaimed "woman of color"

Also, stupid NY times, she bashed them often too. 

 

 

Asian girls love them some white boys.  Somebody broke her heart once upon a time and she just hasn't gotten over it yet

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16 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

Nice take, you idiot. Can you think of any reasons why there is a supposed different arrest rate?

 

Maybe learn to news?

12 hours ago, Kelly101 said:

What is this saying, white people don't smoke weed as much as other races?

Its probably true. 

 

 

Says white ppl smoke at the exact same rate.

 

What would lead you to believe “it’s probably true”? 

 

A racist institution?

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9 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

In addition to other information presented, I'll offer that the overwhelming majority of simple possession charges which are prosecuted are actually plead down to possession from heftier charges involving distribution, are instances where the offender is using in public, or are individuals who are known criminals rather than first time offenders.

 

 

  

Eureka! In all 3700 arrests of brown ppl despite police being called equally for all ethnicities for the same “offense” this must have been the case.

 

Prior arrests and distribution? Sample sizes are not your friend. 

 

If this offends you so, why not add the Miami PD to the discussion? 

 

“Find random black guys with a prior to assign unsolved crimes to”.

 

Want some links?

 

 

 

3 hours ago, LABillzFan said:

Don't misunderstand. I'm not arguing with whatever your larger point might be. But a guy lighting up a joint ANYWHERE is pretty much ignored throughout the country now.

 

Except if you are brown. I mean, the OP asked for examples of institutionalized racism. One or two examples were provided with supporting data. Immediately the supporting data is rejected and countered with mythology. 

 

 

Unless...

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WELL, YES. Sarah Jeong Is A Warning Sign Of Something Wrong With The Left.

 

That really sums up what bothers me about this whole story. It’s the assumption that a public comment like “White men are bull ****” would get a shrug if not for conservatives seizing on it.

 

It’s an admission from the Post that there is almost nothing you can say about white men that anyone on the left would deem problematic (to borrow a popular SJW term of art).

 

The reason why Jeong’s tweets didn’t really matter to anyone on the left is that they’ve nearly all accepted the idea that racism doesn’t mean what most people think it means. Andrew Sullivan points out how the left has redefined it. . . .

 

Jeong was just exploring the space of this privileged position, secure that she could say just about anything without fear of blowback. Indeed, she had many defenders who refused to even acknowledge the possibility of another point of view about what she’d said. When you start from the premise that one group of people can’t be offended, you naturally wind up at the conclusion that anyone who says otherwise is being dishonest.

 

 

 

Plus: “That’s what really bothers me about this. It’s that one form of blatant bigotry gets a pass on the grounds that it won’t really hurt anyone. If the left thinks that’s true, I think they’re not paying attention.

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, Thurmal34 said:

 

Maybe learn to news?

 

Says white ppl smoke at the exact same rate.

 

What would lead you to believe “it’s probably true”? 

 

A racist institution?

nope people breaking the law who aren't good at it.

you're a racist.

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“The New York Times stealth-edited their article about Roseanne Barr to remove a header caption after being called out for hypocrisy over Sarah Jeong. This is journalism in 2018.”

 

The missing header said, “The network’s decision to cancel ‘Roseanne’ over a racist comment will cost it. But when people decide to let racism slide, it costs the rest of us.”

 

 

As the Times is learning the hard way.  ..............Liberal Hypocrisy

 

 

Speaking of stealth-editing, Christina Hoff Sommers notes that there’s “No mention of Sarah Jeong’s demented tweets on her Wikipedia page.

 

Why? A little group of activist editors won’t allow it. Amazing. See them in action here.”

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Twitter slapped Turning Point USA Communications Director Candace Owens with a temporary suspension after she highlighted racist posts made by Sarah Jeong, the recent New York Times hire whose long history of bigoted tweets about white people has placed the newspaper at the center of a public outcry. The beleaguered platform then reversed the ban, calling it an “error” in an email to Owens.

 

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Seriously beginning to wonder when the left are going to start rounding us up

to whisk us off to the camps. I bet there wouldn't be any outcry about us

white monsters being separated from our children. 

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1 minute ago, Kelly101 said:
 

Twitter slapped Turning Point USA Communications Director Candace Owens with a temporary suspension after she highlighted racist posts made by Sarah Jeong, the recent New York Times hire whose long history of bigoted tweets about white people has placed the newspaper at the center of a public outcry. The beleaguered platform then reversed the ban, calling it an “error” in an email to Owens.

 

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Seriously beginning to wonder when the left are going to start rounding us up

to whisk us off to the camps.

 

 

More on this:

 

THE ASSAULT ON FREE SPEECH, CONTINUED

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The Left’s attack on free speech has many fronts, but two of the most important are Twitter and Facebook, simply because a large portion of political discussion, involving many millions of Americans, takes place on those platforms. As I noted here, our First Amendment gives powerful legal protection to political debate–protection that for now, at least, is acknowledged even by the four Democratic Party Supreme Court justices.

 

Unfortunately, the companies that dominate the internet, like Facebook and Twitter, are run and staffed overwhelmingly by liberals. This means that conservatives are constantly placed at a disadvantage in trying to get their messages out. Almost every day provides new examples. Here are a few for today.

 

Last night, Twitter suspended Candace Owens, who has 663,000 Twitter followers, for 12 hours on account of an unspecified violation of the platform’s terms and conditions. Maybe it was because Candace tweeted this criticism of Sarah Jeong:

 
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Black people are only fit to live underground like groveling goblins. They have stopped breeding and will all go extinct soon. I enjoy being cruel to old black women.

The above statements are from @nytimes editor @sarahjeong. I simply swapped out the word “white” for “black”.

 

 

 

 
Or maybe it was because she expressed opposition to abortion, noting that it accounts for 61% of African-American deaths. In any event, a large number of Candace’s supporters contacted Twitter to complain.
 
There was no way Twitter could sustain the suspension, in view of the hateful trash that is constantly tweeted by leftists like Jeong. But some low-level employee evidently vented his or her hostility toward conservatism by arbitrarily suspending Owens.
 
 
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18 minutes ago, Kelly101 said:
 

Twitter slapped Turning Point USA Communications Director Candace Owens with a temporary suspension after she highlighted racist posts made by Sarah Jeong, the recent New York Times hire whose long history of bigoted tweets about white people has placed the newspaper at the center of a public outcry. The beleaguered platform then reversed the ban, calling it an “error” in an email to Owens.

 

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Seriously beginning to wonder when the left are going to start rounding us up

to whisk us off to the camps. I bet there wouldn't be any outcry about us

white monsters being separated from our children. 

 

Twitter pretty clearly has an algorithm scanning tweets for offensive word patterns that include any racial designation except "white."  Because they didn't include satire or reducto ad absurdum argument recognition.

 

Which is to say: I see why it happened,  and don't think there's some grand conspiracy at work there.  And I'm curious what happens if I tweet the same thing - does my account get shut down, or do they only track hate speech from identified right-wing sources?

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And I'm curious what happens if I tweet the same thing - does my account get shut down, or do they only track hate speech from identified right-wing sources?

 

 

 

 

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On ‎08‎/‎05‎/‎2018 at 12:05 AM, Thurmal34 said:

  

Eureka! In all 3700 arrests of brown ppl despite police being called equally for all ethnicities for the same “offense” this must have been the case.

 

Prior arrests and distribution? Sample sizes are not your friend. 

 

If this offends you so, why not add the Miami PD to the discussion? 

 

“Find random black guys with a prior to assign unsolved crimes to”.

 

Want some links?

 

The NYPD is not a racist institution.  The racial makeup of the department nearly mirrors the demographics of the city.

 

According to US Census data and a 2007 study on diversity in policing 28% on NYC is Hispanic, as is 24% of the NYPD; while 23% of NYC is black, as is 16% of it's police force.

 

You might not like it, because you prefer a narrative which allows you to make sweeping unfounded charges of racism, maligning good people serving the needs and safety of the citizens of New York; but the truth is that the policy of the NYPD as related to simple possession, is to simply tell the offender to put it out, or to confiscate and send the offender of their way.

 

Those who are actually arrested are arrested because when they are caught smoking (a crime which allows police to question and demand identification) they are found to have outstanding warrants, they are non-compliant with the officer, or they are actually distributing and are pled down to a lesser offense (the justice system does them a huge favor).

 

These are facts.

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1 hour ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

The NYPD is not a racist institution.  The racial makeup of the department nearly mirrors the demographics of the city.

 

According to US Census data and a 2007 study on diversity in policing 28% on NYC is Hispanic, as is 24% of the NYPD; while 23% of NYC is black, as is 16% of it's police force.

 

You might not like it, because you prefer a narrative which allows you to make sweeping unfounded charges of racism, maligning good people serving the needs and safety of the citizens of New York; but the truth is that the policy of the NYPD as related to simple possession, is to simply tell the offender to put it out, or to confiscate and send the offender of their way.

 

Those who are actually arrested are arrested because when they are caught smoking (a crime which allows police to question and demand identification) they are found to have outstanding warrants, they are non-compliant with the officer, or they are actually distributing and are pled down to a lesser offense (the justice system does them a huge favor).

 

These are facts.

   You'll have to excuse that guy, hes a racist and thinks brown people shouldn't be arrested

and if they are its definitely got to be a racist thing. It's a current liberal attack point, like

immigrants illegally entering the country should be given a bag of goodies and a thumbs up.

hillary clinton gets a free pass and a big thumbs up for her illegal email server,

but hey lets impeach and imprison trump right this minute in the middle of an endless

investigation where no charges have yet been filed and zero proof of any wrong doing has been

shown. Makes sense amirite.

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