Trump and Russia

[B-Man]

 

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When Trump kept talking about Russia probe “hoax” it seems clear he was referring to investigation as it applied to him.

 

Why? Because that’s how he looks at nearly everything

8:52 AM - 19 Feb 2018

 

 

 

 

This is so patently obvious to everyone with even passing knowledge of Trump and/or the general Russia story that the only interesting thing is some Resistance members (in media, elsewhere) attempting to say otherwise.

[Doc Brown]

14 minutes ago, B-Man said:

This is so patently obvious to everyone with even passing knowledge of Trump and/or the general Russia story that the only interesting thing is some Resistance members (in media, elsewhere) attempting to say otherwise.

Trump did say a couple times that he believes Russia didn't interfere and he believed Putin when he said he didn't interfere.  He also said a few times that he agrees with our intelligent agencies that they might have interfered.  He also said that Putin believes Russia didn't interfere with the election.  

 

I'd have an easier time defining what an NFL catch is than getting inside his mind, but I believe he was so defensive about Russian interference because it questioned the legitimacy of his presidency.  I also think that he downplayed Putin's role in it because he wanted to maintain a positive working relationship with him as the Democrats and some Republicans are intent on starting WWIII.

[row_33]

How could one state that nobody in Russia tried to hack the campaign?  

 

They are hacking every single business network by the hour over here. Talk to your IT people about the attempts made on a business.

 

[Koko78]

12 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Trump did say a couple times that he believes Russia didn't interfere and he believed Putin when he said he didn't interfere all on their own, with no Russian government funding, training, or resources.  He also said a few times that he agrees with our intelligent agencies that they might have interfered.  He also said that Putin believes Russia didn't interfere with the election.  

 

I'd have an easier time defining what an NFL catch is than getting inside his mind, but I believe he was so defensive about Russian interference because it questioned the legitimacy of his presidency.  I also think that he downplayed Putin's role in it because he wanted to maintain a positive working relationship with him as the Democrats and some Republicans are intent on starting WWIII.

 

I'm quite sure that Putin was referring to Russia (the nation) not interfering. Putin never said that Russians (the people) didn't interfere. Obviously Putin is never going to acknowledge that he committed what could be interpreted as an act of war on the US.

 

Putin likes to split hairs with his dialogue. It's no different than Putin's narrative that Russia (the nation) never invaded Ukraine. All of the trained Russian soldiers and commanders in Ukrainian territory are simply "volunteers" who just happened to randomly "find" modern Russian military equipment lying about in Donbass, which was clearly "abandoned" by the Ukrainian army (even though Ukraine never had some of the types of equipment in their inventories to abandon).

Edited February 20, 2018 by Koko78

[row_33]

MSNBC heavily covered one of the fake anti-Trump rallies?

 

(where is that Frank Gorshin loop of his Joker laugh)

[Tiberius]

9 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Trump did say a couple times that he believes Russia didn't interfere and he believed Putin when he said he didn't interfere.  He also said a few times that he agrees with our intelligent agencies that they might have interfered.  He also said that Putin believes Russia didn't interfere with the election.  

 

I'd have an easier time defining what an NFL catch is than getting inside his mind, but I believe he was so defensive about Russian interference because it questioned the legitimacy of his presidency.  I also think that he downplayed Putin's role in it because he wanted to maintain a positive working relationship with him as the Democrats and some Republicans are intent on starting WWIII.

Oh, yes, Trump is trying to save the world. He really is a sweet guy! (Warm fuzzy Trump feeling)

 

Back to threatening North Korea now!

9 hours ago, Koko78 said:

 

I'm quite sure that Putin was referring to Russia (the nation) not interfering. Putin never said that Russians (the people) didn't interfere. Obviously Putin is never going to acknowledge that he committed what could be interpreted as an act of war on the US.

 

Putin likes to split hairs with his dialogue. It's no different than Putin's narrative that Russia (the nation) never invaded Ukraine. All of the trained Russian soldiers and commanders in Ukrainian territory are simply "volunteers" who just happened to randomly "find" modern Russian military equipment lying about in Donbass, which was clearly "abandoned" by the Ukrainian army (even though Ukraine never had some of the types of equipment in their inventories to abandon).

And perhaps he was still washing the blood off his hands from murdering the latest human rights advocate in Russia and couldn't think straight at the time. Putin is a busy murderer and can't be expected to remember which country hacked what voting system.

 

 

[4merper4mer]

5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

And perhaps he was still washing the blood off his hands from murdering the latest human rights advocate in Russia and couldn't think straight at the time. Putin is a busy murderer and can't be expected to remember which country hacked what voting system.

 

 

In the murder did he bash the victim in the head with a uranium rock Hillary sold him?

[/dev/null]

11 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

In the murder did he bash the victim in the head with a uranium rock Hillary sold him?

 

If the Clinton's were involved they wouldn't have used a uranium rock, it would have been a subtle fall off a tall building with  a double tap just to be sure

[outsidethebox]

17 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

 

If the Clinton's were involved they wouldn't have used a uranium rock, it would have been a subtle fall off a tall building with  a double tap just to be sure

Nothing to see here! Back to attacking Trump on the Russian election scandal that doesn t exist.

Pay no mind to the old hag behind the curtain. 

[3rdnlng]

11 hours ago, thebug said:

Big deal, those are apparently well liked traits around here. 

You need to stop this **** now. I got a warning point for asking someone here (in a sarcastic manner) if they were a member of NAMBLA. You've continued to make accusations regarding a poster here and that is not acceptable. Stop it.

[thebug]

2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

You need to stop this **** now. I got a warning point for asking someone here (in a sarcastic manner) if they were a member of NAMBLA. You've continued to make accusations regarding a poster here and that is not acceptable. Stop it.

I have no plans on discussing that d-bag unless he quotes me directly, which he did this morning.  

[Azalin]

10 hours ago, row_33 said:

 

(where is that Frank Gorshin loop of his Joker laugh)

 

 

Probably in the same place as that Cesar Romero loop of his Riddler laugh.

[3rdnlng]

3 minutes ago, thebug said:

I have no plans on discussing that d-bag unless he quotes me directly, which he did this morning.  

You discussed him by quoting DCTom in the very post I objected to. Seriously, you should stop. You've done nothing but try to create chaos in the short time you've been posting here. That takes away from this place and I'm sure it will have consequences.

[thebug]

2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

You discussed him by quoting DCTom in the very post I objected to. Seriously, you should stop. You've done nothing but try to create chaos in the short time you've been posting here. That takes away from this place and I'm sure it will have consequences.

That was 12 hours ago. I answered you, now piss off. 

[row_33]

15 minutes ago, Azalin said:

 

Probably in the same place as that Cesar Romero loop of his Riddler laugh.

 

the best at their roles easily

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

Here's a post that makes clear the true nature of the enemy we're facing. It's not liberalism, it's not progressivism, it's fascism. 

 

Facebook VP forced to apologize to his company and to Mueller after... telling an inconvenient truth. 

 

This is some scary, Orwellian shite right here:

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Later that day, Rob Goldman seemed to come to the same understanding, and posted internally at Facebook a message that read as follows: “I wanted to apologize for having tweeted my own view about Russian interference without having it reviewed by anyone internally. The tweets were my own personal view and not Facebook’s. I conveyed my view poorly. The Special Counsel has far more information about what happened [than] I do—so seeming to contradict his statements was a serious mistake on my part.

 

To those of you who have reached out this weekend to offer your support, thank you. It means more than you know. And to all of you who have worked so hard over the last six months to demonstrate that we understand our responsibility to prevent abuse on Facebook—and are working hard to do better in the future—my deepest apologies."

 

But that's not all. Included in this fawning Wired piece, lauding Facebook for properly prohibiting their employee's right to free speech and thought is this blinding paragraph of hypocrisy: 

 

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FACEBOOK HAS LONG had a vexed relationship with Donald Trump. It’s based in Silicon Valley, and most of the executives and employees are liberal Democrats. Mark Zuckerberg believes, to his core, that the point of his platform is to make the world more open and connected. Donald Trump’s campaign was built on tribalism—dividing America against the world, and dividing American groups against each other.

 

Of course, Facebook itself was and is build on tribalism, it's meant to sow division. 

 

Ask yourself, liberals and lefties out there - are these the actions and words of progressive liberals? Or authoritarian fascists who do not allow people the right to free thought or speech unless it lines up with the pre-approved narrative they're pushing. 

 

That's not liberalism. That's not progressivism. It's fascism designed to make you afraid to think for yourself. To make you afraid to express yourself. That's how liberalism DIES, not prospers. 

 

https://www.wired.com/story/facebook-executive-rob-goldman-apologizes-to-company-and-robert-mueller/

[3rdnlng]

24 minutes ago, thebug said:

That was 12 hours ago. I answered you, now piss off. 

So, since your comments that I objected to were 12 hours old, that makes them moot? You do what you want, but be prepared to suffer the consequences for continuing to call someone a pedophile here.

[Warren Zevon]

19 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

So instead of being a man and answering a direct question about your opinion on the topic at hand... you resort to insults and running away. 

 

Pathetic display, Big Cat. Pathetic. You should run to the bathroom and make sure your balls weren't repossessed. 

 

19 hours ago, garybusey said:

 

What is your obsession with the balls of men who disagree with you?

 

Still no answer, Coward.

[Tiberius]

2 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

In the murder did he bash the victim in the head with a uranium rock Hillary sold him?

So you answer me with a propaganda talking point that is totally BS. Always, But Hillary....insert right wing/Russian propaganda.

32 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Here's a post that makes clear the true nature of the enemy we're facing. It's not liberalism, it's not progressivism, it's fascism. 

 

Facebook VP forced to apologize to his company and to Mueller after... telling an inconvenient truth. 

 

This is some scary, Orwellian shite right here:

 

But that's not all. Included in this fawning Wired piece, lauding Facebook for properly prohibiting their employee's right to free speech and thought is this blinding paragraph of hypocrisy: 

 

 

Of course, Facebook itself was and is build on tribalism, it's meant to sow division. 

 

Ask yourself, liberals and lefties out there - are these the actions and words of progressive liberals? Or authoritarian fascists who do not allow people the right to free thought or speech unless it lines up with the pre-approved narrative they're pushing. 

 

That's not liberalism. That's not progressivism. It's fascism designed to make you afraid to think for yourself. To make you afraid to express yourself. That's how liberalism DIES, not prospers. 

 

https://www.wired.com/story/facebook-executive-rob-goldman-apologizes-to-company-and-robert-mueller/

Seems a lot less pernicious than what Trump was doing with those companies he was accusing of trying to stay competitive by downsizing. Didn't hear any of the libertarians or Conservatives raise a single complaint about that.

[row_33]

21 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

So you answer me with a propaganda talking point that is totally BS. Always, But Hillary....insert right wing/Russian propaganda.

Seems a lot less pernicious than what Trump was doing with those companies he was accusing of trying to stay competitive by downsizing. Didn't hear any of the libertarians or Conservatives raise a single complaint about that.

 

you are shining like gold these days compared to the crackpots that invaded the last week or so.