thebandit27 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Omg, ignorance is bliss. His point is that the idea of "if you remove this one successful game" or "if you remove this one successful play" is flawed logic. It happened, and it should be included in any analysis. Should it be taken in context? Absolutely. Should it be discarded completely? Absolutely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 They were AVG in points allowed. Not this tire fire people wanting tk try and justify the option try ti make them out to be They did have a stretch late in the year when they allowed 17 TDs in 18 RZ possessions. That is inexcusable down the stretch in the playoff hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Yes, they had all of one bad game with Aaron in the lineup. They came back the following week and held the Cardinals' offense (9th in yards, 6th in points), to 16 points. If you didn't notice the enormous difference in the defense's ability to communicate and handle assignments once Aaron went out, then I'll be very surprised--you normally are more astute than that. And as I said, it is unacceptable that the defense is that reliant upon one guy (or even one position) to be effective. while i agree, i do think there is some merit to the fact that the point he made with it being keenum, brissett, and Kaepernick at qb in 3 of those games, and the cardinals offense took awhile to get going scoring 21, 7, 18, and 13 in their first 4 games for an average under 15ppg in september for whatever reason. some probably related to the quality of defenses faced those days though. Edited January 11, 2017 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 HC - Sean McDermott OC - McCoy DC - John Butler ST - Bobby April (????) Let's do this Buffalo - Go Bills!!!!! Pretty sure Bobby April is at LSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Where would he rank without his deep passes? Those are all flukes, right? You could call the MIa game the anomaly though. Unlike the deep passes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 It did. But the loss of AW is extremely overrated by a lot on this board. Maybe overrated by the board but even players said that when he went out the communication on the field went down the drain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 They did have a stretch late in the year when they allowed 17 TDs in 18 RZ possessions. That is inexcusable down the stretch in the playoff hunt. It is. However the tire fire thay people say to make TT look better just wasnt really there if you look at the PPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 His point is that the idea of "if you remove this one successful game" or "if you remove this one successful play" is flawed logic. It happened, and it should be included in any analysis. Should it be taken in context? Absolutely. Should it be discarded completely? Absolutely not. Yup, it's why I mentioned the Miami game to jms saying take out the NE shutout. Then hokey boy chimed in with ignorance. Nostradamus? No. I've just watched this team operate the past 17 years. It's an easy prediction. So, so hasent everybody else around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 while i agree, i do think there is some merit to the fact that the point he made with it being keenum, brissett, and Kaepernick at qb in 3 of those games, and the cardinals offense took awhile to get going scoring 21, 7, 18, and 13 in their first 4 games for an average under 15ppg in september for whatever reason. some probably related to the quality of defenses faced those days though. I agree, but my point was more along the lines of how noticeable the difference was in on-field communication and the number of blown assignments. It did. But the loss of AW is extremely overrated by a lot on this board. I would say it's overrated a bit, but not extremely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Does anyone care for much in depth on what I see him doing with our d based upon my viewing of panther a regularly + high level of knowldge? If so what ya want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 AW is the man for sure. Every qb in the league not named Taylor/Keenum/Osweiler can have an occasional perfect game like fitz did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Does anyone care for much in depth on what I see him doing with our d based upon my viewing of panther a regularly + high level of knowldge? If so what ya want? I have my own ideas, but would definitely like to hear what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Just who ever is the Bills coach. Please for the love if god bring the Bills into Modern football and not 1980s and 1990 concepts and push it as innovative to me. DJ did it with the Tampa 2 (even after teams started breaking it with these TEs) Rex did it with the antiquated 4-6 Marrone did it with the Ground and Pound (yes was here) Heck really the only one that was a bit innovative was Chan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Does anyone care for much in depth on what I see him doing with our d based upon my viewing of panther a regularly + high level of knowldge? If so what ya want? Yes please. I'm about to put ScottLaw and MAJBobby on ignore, which will mean I won't see about 80% of the posts on this board, so I'd like something new to read, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Mccoy: Complex passing offense Cardale: Incredibly raw passer In all fairness, in Denver he managed to rework the offense for Tebow. But I would prefer that he use the run heavy, read option planning with Tyrod and Shady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 But can McCoy coordinate a running game? He's a passing game specialist and that's the opposite of our strength.That's all he had in Denver with Tebow. They ran to set up the run that year! He can get it done in the run game too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) I wonder if anybody really believes he chooses the Bills over the Broncos if it is all true? Not saying he won't. Just saying it bothers me. Edited January 11, 2017 by horned dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Just who ever is the Bills coach. Please for the love if god bring the Bills into Modern football and not 1980s and 1990 concepts and push it as innovative to me. DJ did it with the Tampa 2 (even after teams started breaking it with these TEs) Rex did it with the antiquated 4-6 Marrone did it with the Ground and Pound (yes was here) Heck really the only one that was a bit innovative was Chan. Yeah - please incorporate short passing and screens like every other team in the league. Please call passes with an NFL route tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Does anyone care for much in depth on what I see him doing with our d based upon my viewing of panther a regularly + high level of knowldge? If so what ya want? I have my own ideas, but would definitely like to hear what you think. Yes please. I'm about to put ScottLaw and MAJBobby on ignore, which will mean I won't see about 80% of the posts on this board, so I'd like something new to read, yes. Yes! Please start a new thread though; don't bury the X and O talk here with the gossip and general griping. I'd be interested in a general take on McDermott's Ds with our personnel and how that might impact our FA decisions (i.e. let Gilmore walk). Also, I am curious how well it might work, or how it might adjust without a stellar MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Yeah - please incorporate short passing and screens like every other team in the league. Please call passes with an NFL route tree. Yes and the "rub routes" Are we the only freaking team that doesnt have them in our playbook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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