Sanjosebillsfan Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 What is so hard to grasp about having a GM who has been around a few years is definitely involved in picking the HC. Maybe in name he wasn't "leading the search" like it has been declared now. But he sure as !@#$ had input in the decision to hire the HC of the team he is the GM of. Either Whaley was greatly involved or the owners were incompetent, you make the call. Whaley apologists are a loyal bunch, I'll give you that. i vote for incompetent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 OMG, for real - I'm going to make and sell tinfoil hats at Hammer's in 2017... Here's a supplier: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01I497JAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 They would actually be 9th with 24.6 ppg. But don't let that get in the way of MAJ's narrative. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/offensive-points-per-game What narrative is that that i am pushing. To use the accurate stat to make a point. Wow Tar and Feather me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 If any potential coach looks at the bills job and finds it unattractive because they fired Rex after less then 2 years, I wouldn't want them anyway. If they are too Dumb to see that Rex was let go because of how the team continued to get worse u see his time here and how poorly coached they were, then that guy will fail too because they aren't that bright. They guy took over a top 5 defence and dismantled it making it one of the worst, made horrible in game decisions and had a badly disciplined team. You can try and use injuries as an excuse, but even when the injured players were healthy the team was still a mess. Players wise, there's alot of talent already here to work with and options at qb, they won't be tied down to anyone except probably keeping CJ on the roster and have the option. Of drafting someone they like in the draft this year. In LA your tied to Goff for atleast 2 seasons I would think. They have made their qb Moran's now have to play it out, so as a coach you better be happy with him. I'm not hating the choice of Lynn as the next head coach but I'm more concerned about the selection process than I am about who ends up as the next coach of the Bills. It might be because I'm living in Jets-land and I had more exposure to Rex and his antics, but all the problems you highlight with Rex with the Bills were foreseeable based on his body of work with the Jets. We layed 80 points on the defensive genius in 2 games on his Jets defense the prior season so how much more obvious can it be that his self-proclaimed defensive genius status might be false bravado? I'd speculate that after Rex was hired the majority of the board expected we'd be sitting here in coach-search mode either 2 or 3 years later and 2 years later here we are. It's simply amazing the people sitting in on the decision process can't see the obvious. Apparently regardless of all the evidence to question all his bluster, Rex wowed and bamboozled the Pegula's, Brandon, and Whaley. So unless this is a case of learning from mistakes can we really trust the same process and the same people to make a better decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Thanks. Interesting, in Marrone's two years, the team did not average more than 20 ppg. They also didnt have the talent this offense has either did they What is so hard to grasp about having a GM who has been around a few years is definitely involved in picking the HC. Maybe in name he wasn't "leading the search" like it has been declared now. But he sure as !@#$ had input in the decision to hire the HC of the team he is the GM of. Either Whaley was greatly involved or the owners were incompetent, you make the call. Whaley apologists are a loyal bunch, I'll give you that. Because it was reported many times over by the sAme people in the Media that are now paintijg him as the root of all evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaNole3 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 What narrative is that that i am pushing. To use the accurate stat to make a point. Wow Tar and Feather me. Your narrative that Lynn isn't a credible candidate by taking away the D/ST scores but failing to do so for other teams. Then critique the guy for using an "inaccurate" stat all the while using an inaccurate stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Your narrative that Lynn isn't a credible candidate by taking away the D/ST scores but failing to do so for other teams. Then critique the guy for using an "inaccurate" stat all the while using an inaccurate stat. Ummm i have said a couple times now i would take in IF an actual interview process played out. Not my first choice but there are worse out there. So again what Narrative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Here's a supplier: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01I497JAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 What is so hard to grasp about having a GM who has been around a few years is definitely involved in picking the HC. Maybe in name he wasn't "leading the search" like it has been declared now. But he sure as !@#$ had input in the decision to hire the HC of the team he is the GM of. Either Whaley was greatly involved or the owners were incompetent, you make the call. Whaley apologists are a loyal bunch, I'll give you that. It's not being Whaley apologists, I just don't live under a rock. There was a lot of speculation when Rex was hired, that Whaley preferred Hugh Jackson and Shwartz would have stayed on. Kim and Russ were in love with Rex. Go with owners were incompetent at that time. Again, this isn't too hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Which conspiracy is it supposed to be? One camp has Russ Brandon as the man pulling the strings and working with Whaley. So why would Russ Brandon, a marketing guy, want Anthony Lynn? Please explain this to me as I can't keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share Posted December 28, 2016 The theory would be something like this: Brandon and Whaley, assuming they are acting in a coordinated manner, want Lynn because other head coach candidates would want more power over personnel matters, which would erode the current powers shared by Brandon and Whaley. Lynn would be accepting of the current structure and would not challenge the roles of Brandon and Whaley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) It's not being Whaley apologists, I just don't live under a rock. There was a lot of speculation when Rex was hired, that Whaley preferred Hugh Jackson and Shwartz would have stayed on. Kim and Russ were in love with Rex. Go with owners were incompetent at that time. Again, this isn't too hard. Russ being in love with Rex makes sense for the marketing value. Ahhhh well, water under the bridge now I suppose. Here's to hoping they get their collective heads out of their asses this time around. So, will Rex be a talking head for one of the networks by time the playoffs come around? Edited December 28, 2016 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Just another "I hate Whaley" thread. Original Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane nelson Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Continuity means a lot to the Pegula’s, which for the Bills makes a lot of sense. They bought into “Snake Oil Rex” and will not want to make the same mistake again. They trust and like Whaley, he is not going anywhere. I am totally fine with Anthony Lynn taking the helm, assuming he is willing to bring in a strong coordinator to run the D. Todd Bowles, will probably be canned. He could be a great DC. In my opinion, a smart head coach, especially a rookie HC, brings in coordinators who have had HC experience. Someone who understands the pressure points and delegation requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Your narrative that Lynn isn't a credible candidate by taking away the D/ST scores but failing to do so for other teams. Then critique the guy for using an "inaccurate" stat all the while using an inaccurate stat.Additionally, Lynn cannot be credited with the points from the first two weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 OMG, for real - I'm going to make and sell tinfoil hats at Hammer's in 2017... TBD-branded tinfoil hats? Put me down for two at $10 each....one for my office shrine, and one to wear during games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyghtewynd Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 The theory would be something like this: Brandon and Whaley, assuming they are acting in a coordinated manner, want Lynn because other head coach candidates would want more power over personnel matters, which would erode the current powers shared by Brandon and Whaley. Lynn would be accepting of the current structure and would not challenge the roles of Brandon and Whaley. Yep. Spot on. On top of this, I'm sure that the league would highly "encourage" the hire for diversity publicity. Buffalo doesn't need a big name coach to draw fans unless they stop selling beer at games. The rubes will show up no matter what the results are and no matter who they hire, so you might as well hire the guy that's in-house, buys the moron president/GM a couple more years, and probably gets a couple mill under the table from the league into the pockets of the Pegulas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykaykay Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 The funny thing is that if the Doug Whaley "chooses" Anthony Lynn he will have to thank Rex given that Rex already chose him for the organization. P.S. I do not believe the revisionist history about Whaley not wanting Rex two years ago. All we heard was about how aligned their football philosophies were. I wonder if Doug was afraid that Like between any GM & Coach, there are going to be agreements & disagreements. You can't really expect them to talk publicly about their disagreements or throw some of the players under the bus. Hence, we hear how aligned their philosophies are. To be clear, the Bills Front Office would claim continuity. I am making a prediction. We will see if I am correct. Again, I think Doug Whaley (and sadly the Pegulas) have made the job unattractive to anyone who may be in demand for the reasons Bedard mentioned. Unless they overpay or make some promises etc, I just do not see where a top tier candidate chooses this job over others. Why would someone come here if the Bills do not have a QB and fired the prior guy after less than two years with so many injuries etc. Just my two cents. I hope I am wrong. Why would someone come here ?? I can think of 12-15 million good reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Black Excellence: 3 black QBs black GM black head coach 17 year droughts know nothing of skin color. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykaykay Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Yes. A GM who is being given one more chance to prove himself will hire a career RB coach who was promoted to OC 15 weeks ago. That makes a shcit ton of sense. One rumor I heard was that it was the Pegulas who leaked it so Tom Coughlin wouldn't rush into the Jax job. I've also heard that Coughlin, McDaniels, Patricia, Payton and K. Shanahan are in the running with Lynn. I can totally see how Lynn would beat those other guys out. (not really; it'll never happen) It says you edited this. Was it even more stupid before?? That's a little off-color, don't you think? Payton ??????? Is he available ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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