WotAGuy Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Haven't the Pats* routinely beat opponents only running like 10 plays a game? The 1960s Packers only ran one play - the power sweep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 They could only run the plays to the right or the left instead of running the same play in different directions. Maybe some of these guys aren't ambiturners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) So excited for Sunday. I cant wait to watch the speed of this offense spread out AZ and put pressure on them. Sammy is going to finally get some screens and play very well. 1st win here we come. Big win coming. Bills 24 AZ 10 Edited September 21, 2016 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I've said this in another thread - for me it's not about the plays, scheme or complexity. It's about adapting to what the defense is doing and going against it. It's about setting the defense up. It's something that as an OC if you're QB isn't ready for helping with that role - the majority of that falls on your shoulders. Tyrod doesn't appear ready to change the play or tell the OC what he wants to do. We'll see if Lynn is better at it than Roman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 None of this would be an issue if the damned QB would just hit the open WR. The All-22 don't lie. It really is that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 So excited for Sunday. I cant wait to watch the speed of this offense spread out AZ and put pressure on them. Sammy is going to finally get some screens and play very well. 1st win here we come. Big win coming. Bills 24 AZ 10 ....and the award for Best Actor on an Internet Message Board goes to...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Does anyone remember when Roman first joined the team? His massive play book and complexity of looks/schemes were touted as great things for us and bad for opposing defenses. He could run 8 plays out of one formation and keep opposing defenses off balance. Good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabden Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Dumbing down the elementary passing offense sure incites visions of future successes! How complicated is the Pats*** offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flaz Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 not sure why y'all are coming down on the players for this, it is very possible that the system was bloated, and a scaled back playbook will work with a lot more efficiency, it doesn't mean the players are too dumb to get it, proof will be in the pudding going forward Exactly!! Why have 600 plays in your book if you cant get one (play) into the huddle on time! Fewer plays means calls {that work} will come in to the huddle sooner. Sooner means a faster offense with the ability to check out of plays that don't fit the defensive alignment. TT has not had enough time to do this last year and this. We shall see if this makes a difference but I'm anxious to see what happens Sunday. However, a win is going to be tough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Another guy that must just be happy with having a team. Nah i will demand better than just existing as a NFL franchise Can you try it on another Bills site? You've made up 45% of all posts on TSW over the last week. We get it, you're pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I have heard Thurman Thomas state, with a laugh, that they only had a handful of running plays during the Superbowl years. If you have really good players and they execute familiar plays really well, I guess that is enough. Or at least it was 25 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 What's that for, cleaning up the result of your failure boner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flaz Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 How complicated is the Pats*** offense? Another good point!!. Their offense is based on SPEED BABY!! Short routes and timing. They have at the line to check out of plays, snap the ball and release the ball in 2 seconds or less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 None of this would be an issue if the damned QB would just hit the open WR. The All-22 don't lie. It really is that simple. especially when it favors your bitching right? As if our QB NEVER hits a open receiver....newsflash.....EVERY QB.....every qb...misses receivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 What's that for, cleaning up the result of your failure boner? Nah, kid, for mopping up his tears caused by NNN persecution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) I realize that there are a lot of fans that dont know a lot about football on this board......that much is obvious from the comments the last couple of weeks but "complicated" does not auto mean "good" and "simple" does not automatically mean bad If the Offense can actually EXECUTE what is being called.....it looks great no matter how simple it is Very true, although I give the posters on this board more credit about knowing about football than you . Schwart's D's are generally regarded as "simpler." I think an announcer commented on it during MNF stating that players love it because it allows them to use their skills to actually play. You still need smart players who understand how to employ their skills in a "simple" system. Edited September 21, 2016 by RyanC883 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I realize that there are a lot of fans that don't know a lot about football on this board......that much is obvious from the comments the last couple of weeks but "complicated" does not auto mean "good" and "simple" does not automatically mean bad If the Offense can actually EXECUTE what is being called.....it looks great no matter how simple it is You're exactly right. People also forget (or maybe many here aren't old enough to have experienced it) that in the 1990's, the great Bills team and the great Broncos team were both incredibly successful using incredibly simple and limited offensive schemes. The logic behind simplifying your offense is to allow the players to "play more natural football" and using your raw talent to beat the opponent instead of calling complicated plays that players have to think about a lot in order to execute. In a complicated system it is also much harder to have everyone on the same page. If the quarterback tries to think and analyze too much it can affect his play in a negative way. He may hesitate for a second that effs up the play. If a receiver or blocker has a mental misstep, it can result in a sack or an interception. How many times have you seen plays where the receiver runs one route and the QB expected him to do something else? Simplifying an offense is a way to reduce those types of problems and get your talent guys playing more natural football focusing on their raw talent rather than trying to outsmart the other team. I think it is a very smart decision to simplify the offense and it is a positive step in the right direction based on the productivity so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Nah, kid, for mopping up his tears caused by NNN persecution. Maybe both? Come on, you gotta admit you LOVE that you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) I have heard Thurman Thomas state, with a laugh, that they only had a handful of running plays during the Superbowl years. If you have really good players and they execute familiar plays really well, I guess that is enough. Or at least it was 25 years ago. is still true. Execution wins games. Skilled players with precision execution wins lots of games. Smart-skilled players with precision execution wins championships. It is difficult to have precision when there are a ton of different plays. Jack of all plays, master of none, IMO. Edited September 21, 2016 by RyanC883 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 Very true, although I give the posters on this board more credit about knowing about football than you . Schwart's D's are generally regarded as "simpler." I think an announcer commented on it during MNF stating that players love it because it allows them to use their skills to actually play. You still need smart players who understand how to employ their skills in a "simple" system. So we dont have elite players. Because i bet players like Luke Kuechley, Brady, AJ Green, Larry Fitz never needed their system simplified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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