plenzmd1 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I'm at an ultimate level of cynicism with both teams. Bylsma has to go because Eichel is too important, but I'm not thrilled that the evidence points to a rather entitled group of young players. Clearly it isn't working, better luck to the next guy. I am starting to come onboard with this line of thinking. Gorges interview was rather revealing as well. Did you listen to any player interviews is year? Especially after they were eliminated form the playoffs and on locker clean out day? I have heard many/most of the Sabres players say "we have a lot of talent on this team" I agree Tim Murray needs to make improvements to this team. But you seem to put all the blame on him all the time, and he doesn't deserve it. He has added a LOT of talent to is team in a short amount of time. Players saying "they have all the talent" means nothing to me..they are not going to throw their teammates under the bus.. In terms of Murray, I think his job so far has been a "c". Awful miss on the D corps being the biggest reason. Can't blame for hiring Disco...thought it was right move at time . But also think he needs to can him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) Did you listen to any player interviews is year? Especially after they were eliminated form the playoffs and on locker clean out day? I have heard many/most of the Sabres players say "we have a lot of talent on this team" or some variant of that phrase, and after they were eliminated from the playoffs and on locker clean out day I heard so many guys say "....that's what's so disappointing, we have so much talent in this room" or "...we have the talent in this room to be a playoff team" or "the talent's here" or other similar phrases. That doesn't sound like a team blaming their GM... And as I've already said, I have heard multiple players compliment Tim Murray - from Evander Kane to Ryan O'Reilly to Kyle Okposo to yes, Jack Eichel (and more). I haven't seen anything, not even as much as a rumor hinting at players blaming Murray or not liking/wanting to play for him... Bylsma, on the other hand... It's been a shitstorm of stuff coming out about players hating his system and feeling like they can't have success in it, and how there's a big disconnect between coaches and players and lots of stuff like that. I agree Tim Murray needs to make improvements to this team. But you seem to put all the blame on him all the time, and he doesn't deserve it. He has added a LOT of talent to is team in a short amount of time. It is not players job to assess the skill level of the GM. It is the other way around. Murray is the stern authority figure in the players' chain. They see him from time to time. Fine. Bylsma is wishy washy and with them every day. They see him as ineffective. It's like the old grandpa sitting on the porch on Sunday barking out orders at the kids and their mom. They see him as knowing everything. They don't see the behind the scenes stuff where he is hitting the hooch. They don't see that he caused a lot of the problems mom deals with from day to day. Then they grow up. Murray couldn't close the deal with Babcock.....and stop blaming the guy's wife.....he saddled Bylsma with zero defense and an erratic, volatile neck tattooed goalie who is great one day and up for a role in the latest "The Purge" sequel the next. TM is inept. At some point the players will see him proverbially passed out on the porch with an empty moonshine bottle next to him and figure out what has been going on. If it takes too long their white flags will have gone up. Pegula needs to see this and either dump him now or give the inevitable one more year to make things look fair. Anything beyond that and we are at major risk of losing the crown jewel of the franchise. Edited April 20, 2017 by 4merper4mer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 @BuffNewsVogl The Sabres have fired Dan Bylsma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Breaking news -Murray and Bylsma both fired, per WGR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Holy **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 @BuffNewsVogl The Sabres have fired Dan Bylsma Other shoe....other shoe.....please drop. Other shoe....other shoe.....please drop. Breaking news -Murray and Bylsma both fired, per WGR. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Other shoe....other shoe.....please drop. @sabresPRGeneral Manager Tim Murray and Head Coach Dan Bylsma have been relieved of their duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 @sabresPR General Manager Tim Murray and Head Coach Dan Bylsma have been relieved of their duties. Now it is truly on Pegula. He messed up with Murray hire but it was easy to see why. Now we see if his NHL connections have deepened over time. Here's hoping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I am not shocked with Bylsma but am very surprised with GMTM Will they go after Jack's coach from BU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 Pegula must already have a new GM in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I am not shocked with Bylsma but am very surprised with GMTM I'm surprised too, even though it was nipping a problem in the bud, that doesn't usually happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 @SabresPR Buffalo Sabres Owner Terry Pegula has issued the following statement: I wonder if Dean Lombardi is a candidate to replace Murray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I'm surprised too, even though it was nipping a problem in the bud, that doesn't usually happen. Guess I thought he would go the route he went with the Bills... goes to show each case is unique Interesting he is doing this since he didn't when he fired Rex. Must have gotten some advice from Boyko. @briankoziol #Sabres owner Terry Pegula will meet with the media Friday at 10:00am at Key Bank Ctr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) It's not a bad start to the rebuild, they should be able to attract a good GM and coach. i would have liked to see GMTM see his vision through to the end, but I understand the move. GMTM went all in on McDavid as the key piece of a quick rebuild and it just didn't happen. I really want to work for the Pegula's, you always get paid well past your last working day.... Edited April 20, 2017 by ricojes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Lombardi and Sutter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I'm surprised about GMTM. Glad to see Bylsma go. Always liked Sutter. Guess we'll find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I am shocked...time to rebuild... Time to step-up the already started rebuild. I see this a huge plus for you guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I'm disappointed with the firing of TM. I thought he did some good and some bad, but overall loved the way he carried himself and thought he'd get another try at HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Without oversimplifying it this wasn't that difficult of a decision IMO. They didn't do a very good job. Murray had TONS of assets and he ended up with a few players. Anybody could have picked Eichel so he doesn't get credit for that. He built the war chest to rebuild and then spent it all on $.10 hookers. Bylsma might have been worse. Add in the relationship that he and Jack have and there was no question he wouldn't be back. These guys were tasked with a rebuild and they failed. I'm hoping that the new life will bring upon better results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 We must be getting royally screwed on the NFL schedule today for Pegs to pull this on release day!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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