hondo in seattle Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) A human interest conversation would be allowed I believe while any discussion of football matters would be prohibited. I could be wrong, but I believe that's the distinction. You may be right, but as Wayne noted, some coaches may reinterpret the rule to mean 'no contact at all' until OTAs just to be safe. It seems like the Bills medical staff may have been keeping up with the situation. And they probably/possibly kept Whaley and Rex up-to-date. But it seems crappy that a CBA rule may have discouraged the coaches from being caring human beings. The agent says Seantrel lost 20 lbs. I wonder what he's up to now. Herman is optimistic. He recently spoke to a top specialist in the Crohn's disease field who said that Henderson is "good to go" and "this should not impact his career whatsoever." Edited May 31, 2016 by hondo in seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 We have direct quotes from Ryan that he nor any of the coaches reached out to Seantrel at all. This isn't a question of medical privacy. Where have we read or heard that Rex knew he had two surgeries in the off season? For all he knew he was quietly rehabbing after missing the last games of the season. How many other players has Rex and the coaches not reached out to in the off season? Did Rex or the coaches call Shady when he was going upside the cop's head in Philly with a champagne bottle? Did they call Sammy after his footsie boo-boo surgery? Maybe Seantral said, "Don't call me, I'll call you," when he took his leave to convalesce. Maybe he asked for privacy and Rex and the coaches honored that. There's a lot we don't know. Whales said earlier this month that they had heard good things about his rehab. Then this "story" breaks and it's slanted to make Rex look like an azz. Well, I gotta tell ya, Rex doesn't need ANY help in that area. He's a self-made man. I just think this is much ado about very, very little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Where have we read or heard that Rex knew he had two surgeries in the off season? For all he knew he was quietly rehabbing after missing the last games of the season. How many other players has Rex and the coaches not reached out to in the off season? Did Rex or the coaches call Shady when he was going upside the cop's head in Philly with a champagne bottle? Did they call Sammy after his footsie boo-boo surgery? Maybe Seantral said, "Don't call me, I'll call you," when he took his leave to convalesce. Maybe he asked for privacy and Rex and the coaches honored that. There's a lot we don't know. Whales said earlier this month that they had heard good things about his rehab. Then this "story" breaks and it's slanted to make Rex look like an azz. Well, I gotta tell ya, Rex doesn't need ANY help in that area. He's a self-made man. I just think this is much ado about very, very little. Much ado? Maybe this is your first offseason. 8 pages is nuffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Much ado? Maybe this is your first offseason. 8 pages is nuffin. Not hardly. Agreed 8 pages, but it's filled in part by the axe grinding for Rex, and I'm quite tired of that already. Man, it's a long, long offseason this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Not hardly. Agreed 8 pages, but it's filled in part by the axe grinding for Rex, and I'm quite tired of that already. Man, it's a long, long offseason this year. No different than any other year. The 2014 offseason was filled with anti-Marrone antics. It's nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 No different than any other year. The 2014 offseason was filled with anti-Marrone antics. It's nothing new. Some of the Dick Jauron off-seasons were brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Some of the Dick Jauron off-seasons were brutal. All of the Dick Jauron regular seasons were even more brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Some of the Dick Jauron off-seasons were brutal. to be fair, it seems in hindsight the complainers on those were probably more right than wrong. hopefully rex can break the trend of proving the criticism correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 to be fair, it seems in hindsight the complainers on those were probably more right than wrong. hopefully rex can break the trend of proving the criticism correct. Oh yea, definitely. I meant more in terms of the mood of the board and what threads got started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 We have direct quotes from Ryan that he nor any of the coaches reached out to Seantrel at all. This isn't a question of medical privacy. Who gives a dam whether Rex or any of the other coaches got in touch with him. The organization was monitoring the situation to the extent that they should. You may be bothered by it but I'm not. I don't understand what the issue is here that is troubling you. Just because Rex isn't aware of any other coaches getting in touch with him doesn't mean that it is true, or more importantly is relevant to anything. There is contact now. So that should offer you some relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Who gives a dam whether Rex or any of the other coaches got in touch with him. The organization was monitoring the situation to the extent that they should. You may be bothered by it but I'm not. I don't understand what the issue is here that is troubling you. Just because Rex isn't aware of any other coaches getting in touch with him doesn't mean that it is true, or more importantly is relevant to anything. There is contact now. So that should offer you some relief. Probably everyone expressing concern in this topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Who gives a dam whether Rex or any of the other coaches got in touch with him. Probably everyone expressing concern in this topic? And MOST DEFINITELY this guy ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) We have direct quotes from Ryan that he nor any of the coaches reached out to Seantrel at all. This isn't a question of medical privacy. Is there another story out there? From Dunne's story, we have a quote from Ryan saying this: After last week’s open organized team activity (OTA) practice, head coach Rex Ryan began by calling the right tackle's absence “a medical thing,” before admitting they haven’t spoken since the last day of last season.[/size] “I can’t really recall talking to him,” Ryan said. “I think he has been in since then but I haven’t talked to him personally.” And Henderson's agent saying this: "When a guy's wearing a bag and he's going through the process of healing, clearly if any of his coaches called he would've returned the phone call. But to this day, nobody has called him." Edited May 31, 2016 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Who gives a dam whether Rex or any of the other coaches got in touch with him. The organization was monitoring the situation to the extent that they should. You may be bothered by it but I'm not. I don't understand what the issue is here that is troubling you. Just because Rex isn't aware of any other coaches getting in touch with him doesn't mean that it is true, or more importantly is relevant to anything. There is contact now. So that should offer you some relief. Thank you. I appreciate that you -- a well-known Rex despiser -- are able to comprehend that this is a complete non-issue. The Bills were aware of and monitoring Henderson's situation, and whether or not Rex or any coach was "in contact with" him (and whether they disclose that to the media) is completely irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 And MOST DEFINITELY this guy ^ Don't conflate the level of engagement with importance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 i dunno - when someone goes out on medical or maternity leave at work, you probably send a card and get back to work. Some managers might give them a call to see how they're doing. But this is the NFL, and both Seantrel and Rex probably have more important stuff to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I just don't think we know enough about what's going on to judge how the Bills are handling the Seantrel situation. At one point Herman, the agent, said, "nobody has called him" but then backtracked and said the medical staff has been monitoring Seantrel's progress and some players have reach out. Herman might not be the best source. DW seems to be in the loop and Rex only said he hasn't personally talked to Seantrel. None of us are entirely sure exactly what the CBA says about coaches talking to players this time of year or what the Bills own policy might be. And nobody on this board knows what's going on behind the scenes. I'm giving Rex a pass on this one. I'm just glad Seantrel's prognosis seems to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Thank you. I appreciate that you -- a well-known Rex despiser -- are able to comprehend that this is a complete non-issue. The Bills were aware of and monitoring Henderson's situation, and whether or not Rex or any coach was "in contact with" him (and whether they disclose that to the media) is completely irrelevant. As I said in a prior post this is a very serious and complicated medical case. Too many people are trying to unfairly insinuate that the organization, and Rex in particular, was through their alleged non-communication acting callously toward the player. Nothing could be further from the truth. The organization from the players, the coaches and front office were very aware that he had a serious medical issue that was plaguing him last year. What bothers me the most about this topic is that people are making ugly assumptions based on unsubstantiated claims. The Henderson medical case from the standpoint of the organization's responsibility in releasing information to the media/public is understandably much more guarded than if they were releasing the health status of a player who was recovering from a football injury. Even in those football cases the information that is released is very generic. When discussing the Bills there are plenty of easy targets to criticize. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. The phony expressions of moral indignity emanating from this topic have me puzzled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Thank you. I appreciate that you -- a well-known Rex despiser -- are able to comprehend that this is a complete non-issue. The Bills were aware of and monitoring Henderson's situation, and whether or not Rex or any coach was "in contact with" him (and whether they disclose that to the media) is completely irrelevant. I agree it's minor, if even a blip on the radar I will also say though that if given the choice of how this played out you probably write the ideal a bit different than the actual. That'll happen sometimes and I'm not losing sleep over it but I also won't be shocked if at a later date we mention this as a moment that helped foreshadow some trends that have become clearer with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 A human interest conversation would be allowed I believe while any discussion of football matters would be prohibited. I could be wrong, but I believe that's the distinction. The question is whether inquiring as to someone's health and progress could be construed as checking on their availability for practice, which I don't think is allowed. Regardless, it doesn't seem like Rex knew much of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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