H2o Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 I don't think that he needs to publicly criticize his agent. The only people that satisfies are the fans worrying (without reason). The Bills know where he stands. He's a pretty quiet, humble guy. I don't think that he has any interest in hashing this thing out in the media. His agent is doing what every agent does. He is trying to get his client signed to more money and now. The agent gets paid when the player signs a contract. For him there is only risk in Tyrod not being extended until next year. What if he gets hurt? What if he fires his agent? Tyrod believes in himself. We should pay no attention to what the agent says. If Tyrod plays well he will get a big deal. If he doesn't, he won't. It really is that simple. No, not publicly. But you can still tell your agent to stfu. His agent is really going about things the wrong way. His agent IS publicly trying to throw the organization under the bus. We all know people want their pay day. In this instance I believe it is a lot about the agent wanting his pay day. Either way, given the situation, you are making yourself look like a completely unprofessional douche with the constant clamoring over something that is financially impossible and not really warranted UNLESS you are doing it with the intentions of trying to get your client moved to a team that has the funds and is willing to meet the demands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScrewyLouie Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 If the Bills traded their 1st and 2nd picks to draft Paxton i would FIRE Whaley the instant he finished making the trade. I wouldn't even wait one minute. I would hand him his coat and hat and escort him out of the building. The Bills have more holes to fill than Swiss cheese. Those premium picks are what a team needs to fill their major weaknesses. The Bills don't have the luxury of wasting those picks on a guy who is going to ride the pines behind Tyrod Taylor. Paxton can't help them win any games in 2016 while he's getting slivers in his rear end. This teams needs upgrades all over the roster if they want to be a contender. Not addressing these needs would only set the team back another year. The Bills need upgrades on the defensive line, linebacker, the offensive line, wide receiver, and defensive back field. Even with all of their picks they would be lucky if they can fill half of them in just one off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Taylor is under contract here this season. If he plays well he will be well paid . If his agent is afraid he will regress then he would want a big guaranteed deal now. The franchise tag is also there after next season if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 No, not publicly. But you can still tell your agent to stfu. His agent is really going about things the wrong way. His agent IS publicly trying to throw the organization under the bus. We all know people want their pay day. In this instance I believe it is a lot about the agent wanting his pay day. Either way, given the situation, you are making yourself look like a completely unprofessional douche with the constant clamoring over something that is financially impossible and not really warranted UNLESS you are doing it with the intentions of trying to get your client moved to a team that has the funds and is willing to meet the demands. Maybe he did tell him to tone it down? Maybe he didn't? Either way it's irrelevant. The agent is doing what agents do. The team and Tyrod know where each other stand and that's all that matters. The only people that the agent's words impact are the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) Taylor is under contract here this season. If he plays well he will be well paid . If his agent is afraid he will regress then he would want a big guaranteed deal now. The franchise tag is also there after next season if needed. The Bills are in a situation here with the impending Glenn and Gilmore contracts coming up next year and their current #2 WR being a free agent also. That's three positions that do not include DE, LB, S, OL needs which will hopefully be partially fixed through this draft. So in 2016, will Taylor perform to the level of a franchise QB worth 20 million a year and not having the extra cap space for several key positions? I would not be angry if they drafted Lynch because of the situation. Taylor seems like more of a game manager type of franchise QB that needs a lot of talent around him. If he gets 20 million a year how do you put talent around him? Also, let's look at the size differential of both Taylor and Lynch. Can you count on Taylor staying healthy for the long term? Edited April 10, 2016 by 1billsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 The Bills are in a situation here with the impending Glenn and Gilmore contracts coming up next year and their current #2 WR being a free agent also. That's three positions that do not include DE, LB, S, OL needs which will hopefully be partially fixed through this draft. So in 2016, will Taylor perform to the level of a franchise QB worth 20 million a year and not having the extra cap space for several key positions? The Bills will have more than enough room to get Glenn, Gilmore, and Taylor done with cap to spare. The math has been done several times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 The Bills will have more than enough room to get Glenn, Gilmore, and Taylor done with cap to spare. The math has been done several times. That's easily 40 million in cap space for three players. Sammy's contract is up after next year's season and he'll easily be'll be worth 15 million by then, that's 55 million a year for just four players. I don't see how that adds up to success with a 53 man roster. With today's current giant QB contract, will Taylor be worth 20 million a year? Maybe a raw Paxton Lynch on a rookie deal for four years is actually the better option for long term success of the franchise? Can Taylor stay healthy with his small frame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) That's easily 40 million in cap space for three players. Sammy's contract is up after next year's season and he'll easily be'll be worth 15 million by then, that's 55 million a year for just four players. I don't see how that adds up to success with a 53 man roster. With today's current giant QB contract, will Taylor be worth 20 million a year? Maybe a raw Paxton Lynch on a rookie deal for four years is actually the better option for long term success of the franchise? Can Taylor stay healthy with his small frame? Sammy has a 5th year option fwiw. He's a FA in 2019. Assuming it is picked up of course. Edited April 10, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) Not sure Rex would endorse the idea of a 1st round QB (part of the reason I don't like Rex as HC, but that's another story), let alone one that you might have to trade up for... Not to derail the thread, but I stopped reading here. Rex endorsed trading up in the first round for Sanchito in the 2009 draft. In the long run, it didn't work out, but don't act like he would never do it and use that as a tent pole for your argument. It's almost as if the anti-Rex crowd is just making sh*+ up, whatever will fit their narrative. Edited April 10, 2016 by jimmy10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) He's a 2nd round talent in this draft IMO. I would guess a number of teams have him graded there. Some team could reach for need at the position plus the 1st round gives them the 5th year option which for a QB is extra valuable. I don't know where the Bills have him graded. Trading up from 19 is a bit outlandish. Trading up from 49 isn't but I'd still be a little surprised. Agreed. Trading up for Lynch and wasting valuable picks would be an asinine move on the part of the Bills. He doesn't warrant a trade up, especially with Tyrod set as the starter for this year. St. Louis is likely to take a QB at 15. Maybe Cook, maybe they consider Lynch, as well. Depending on how the Fitzpatrick situation shakes out with the Jest, they are also a possibility to take Lynch at 20. If either Cook or Lynch are there at 31, Denver will certainly pull the trigger, IMO. Best case for the Bills, Fitz doesn't re-sign with the Jest and somebody (Denver?) tries to get ahead of them by trading into the Bills pick at 19. Edited April 10, 2016 by ExWNYer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 That's easily 40 million in cap space for three players. Sammy's contract is up after next year's season and he'll easily be'll be worth 15 million by then, that's 55 million a year for just four players. I don't see how that adds up to success with a 53 man roster. With today's current giant QB contract, will Taylor be worth 20 million a year? Maybe a raw Paxton Lynch on a rookie deal for four years is actually the better option for long term success of the franchise? Can Taylor stay healthy with his small frame? As Yolo said, Sammy doesn't really need to be addressed until '18, and he will be. The money is there to retain Glenn, Gilmore, and Taylor (even if they pay him like a real QB) and pick up some UFAs next off season. The math has been done a lot and posted in numerous threads (by people better than me with these numbers so take their words, not mine ). The fear about the cap issues have been largely overblown. They were tight this off season -- yet still managed to retain the guys they targeted from the start while bringing in some cheap UFAs for depth. Next year they'll have more room, and while you're right that those deals will eat up much of that space, there will be at least 6 million left to dabble in UFA. Possibly more. The Bills will always be spending right up to the cap under Pegs. We need to start getting used to that as a fan base. Winning will help with that, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Not to derail the thread, but I stopped reading here. Rex endorsed trading up in the first round for Sanchito in the 2009 draft. In the long run, it didn't work out, but don't act like he would never do it and use that as a tent pole for your argument. It's almost as if the anti-Rex crowd is just making sh*+ up, whatever will fit their narrative. You beat me to it. Hard to read on when the presmise of the OP is 100% false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) As Yolo said, Sammy doesn't really need to be addressed until '18, and he will be. The money is there to retain Glenn, Gilmore, and Taylor (even if they pay him like a real QB) and pick up some UFAs next off season. The math has been done a lot and posted in numerous threads (by people better than me with these numbers so take their words, not mine ). The fear about the cap issues have been largely overblown. They were tight this off season -- yet still managed to retain the guys they targeted from the start while bringing in some cheap UFAs for depth. Next year they'll have more room, and while you're right that those deals will eat up much of that space, there will be at least 6 million left to dabble in UFA. Possibly more. The Bills will always be spending right up to the cap under Pegs. We need to start getting used to that as a fan base. Winning will help with that, of course. if there is one guy you know Whaley has a Brinks truck earmarked for, it's his boy Watkins Edited April 10, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 if there is one guy you know Whaley has a Brinks truck earmarked for, it's his boy Watkins 100% If they let him walk after his rookie deal it'd be a disaster. I don't think there's much of a chance that Sammy plays less than two contracts in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 All depends on Fly rods agent. Oh Tyrod end. Dad was a mechanic? No really, if they can`t get close on a deal,screw them. Lynch looks good enough for a chance. That`s all draft picks are chances. Hit and miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) I don't see the Bills trading up for Lynch. I could see them taking him at 19, however. Some team is going to reach for him and don't think that it can't be the Bills. He's more of a fit in their style of offense than most realize. He doesn't run well, but he's going to be a vertical offense guy in the style of Flacco. He's not going to be ready for a year or two, though. And he's definitely a high risk/reward player. The Bills have no QB signed beyond 2016. They're going to take a QB at some point. Edited April 10, 2016 by BarleyNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Lynch shouldn't even be taken in the first round by any team. Trading up to get him would be a no-no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Lynch and EJ two guys that look the part but can't play it for ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 If the Bills do not think that Taylor is the guy or that they will not be able to re-sign him after this season, then I am fine with taking a QB (Lynch) if he is there at 19. Would not be in favor of moving up to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 I must've missed this. Where did you read this? http://bills.buffalonews.com/2016/04/09/power-take-trash-talk-by-taylors-agent-doesnt-make-any-sense/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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