Maury Ballstein Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Adam LaRoche walks away from 13 million dollars to play this season for the Chicago White Sox. He brings his kid to the ballpark every day. Allegedly he caught an attitude as White Sox management tells him to bring the kid sometimes but not every day. Kid even had the locker in the locker room next to pops. I don't think the White Sox are asking for too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Reason #1324 why I'm not that big a sports fan anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I can't think of another job where you can bring a teen to work with you every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) Is the teen being homeschooled? Kid is 14... Illinois allows 15 year olds to start driving, think his son would want to be elsewhere. Then ontop of it LaRoche, 36 has ADHD... Takes meds for it. I wonder if that played a part when he didn't get his way. I don't think The Sox are being unreasonable if Adam was treating the clubhouse as a homeschool classroom? The kid was there 100% of the time... When does he go to school? Edited March 17, 2016 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) The kid was there 100% of the time... When does he go to school? Seems odd, lucky kid though. Edited March 17, 2016 by Ryan L Billz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Seems odd, lucky kid though. True. It is a family game. Didn't Barry Bonds "grow up" in the clubhouse. Bond's father was Bobby & Godfather is Willie Mays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I wonder if he'd have quit if they asked him to stop sucking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I can't think of another job where you can bring a teen to work with you every day. There was a time not so long ago, when it was common practice in various trades. Heck, because they lived at work! Ha! Up until the 1950's or so, lockmasters had houses on site at lock & dams... Federal lock & dams. Caretakers, like lighthouse tenders. AND OF course a team of workers, more especially when lock operations were hand operated. I talked to an old-timer down at another lock on the Illinois Waterway. This had to be 20 or so years ago when I talked to him. He was telling me "the culture" was so that the lock operators were expected to do the laundry and even change the diapers of the lockmaster's babies... LMAO! We still change diapers! Some Fed workers are real infants! :-( :-( LoL... ;-( One towboat pilot a bunch of years ago bought an old lockmaster house on the Upper MS and moved it by barge to another location. Anyway... I guess the times and culture change, especially in public service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 True. It is a family game. Didn't Barry Bonds "grow up" in the clubhouse. Bond's father was Bobby & Godfather is Willie Mays. I guess for some but when the Sox GM is under intense scrutiny and wants to tighten up the atmosphere a little with no kids around he should be able to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I guess for some but when the Sox GM is under intense scrutiny and wants to tighten up the atmosphere a little with no kids around he should be able to do so. I agree... Times changed. These dudes get big bucks and the expectations are enormous. So many other issues too in today's society/culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I wonder how this affects Drake. Talk about someone who needs to dial back how much he hangs around pro athletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) I wonder how this affects Drake. Talk about someone who needs to dial back how much he hangs around pro athletes.I mentioned Barry Bonds... I wonder what he saw growing up in the wilder times! LaRoche is a devout Christian though. Maybe having the kid around all the time drove some other players to complain? Work is not a daycare. Maybe years ago it was. My job and site [insert daycare joke here...Ha Ha], there WAS a gray area, it can almost be like home with 25 acres of park land. Some employees would push it (kids to work when they were in a pinch) years ago... Again, not too many years removed from the decades when it was accepted. Job culture has changed... Even in baseball too! Righty so! Edited March 17, 2016 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullpen Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) I think it's okay to have the kid in there sometimes, but the clubhouse is the players "place." It's where they can shed whatever public persona or PR agenda they have and cuss, gossip, tell crude stories/jokes, pull pranks on others, vent, etc... probably some players felt that having a kid around "all the time" prevented that from happening. The only analogy I can think of is if you have a group of buddies that you meet regularly or semi-regularly for beers, golf, bowling, whatever. What if one of those guys insisted on always bringing his kid along? Eventually, one of you guys would have to pull him aside and ask him not to bring the kid along all the time. In this case LaRoche decided he's not going to hang out with you guys for beers anymore. It was his choice to make. And like 4mer said, they could have asked him to stop sucking as well. Edited March 17, 2016 by Bullpen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I think both sides are right. It's laroche's prerogative to retire if he feels that it is that important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 I think both sides are right. It's laroche's prerogative to retire if he feels that it is that important. I feel he's being a baby. If one of his teammates wants to talk about the 4 girls he banged last night he can't do it because baby LaRoche is in the building. It's a locker room. Cursing, inappropriate music, penises and balls abound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Is the teen being homeschooled? Kid is 14... Illinois allows 15 year olds to start driving, think his son would want to be elsewhere. Then ontop of it LaRoche, 36 has ADHD... Takes meds for it. I wonder if that played a part when he didn't get his way. I don't think The Sox are being unreasonable if Adam was treating the clubhouse as a homeschool classroom? The kid was there 100% of the time... When does he go to school? Hes home schooled. I feel he's being a baby. If one of his teammates wants to talk about the 4 girls he banged last night he can't do it because baby LaRoche is in the building. It's a locker room. Cursing, inappropriate music, penises and balls abound. Maybe the kid likes to hear about the 4 chicks that got banged! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I feel he's being a baby......It's a locker room. Yeah, he's clearly not mature enough to make dick jokes and brag about sex....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I think both sides are right. It's laroche's prerogative to retire if he feels that it is that important. Exactly! Spot on! Management is being reasonable in asking him to tone it down too... Even stop the practice all together if they want bringing his child in to end. Now... Maybe find a job for Drake to do around the Clubhouse? Help the equipment manager,trainer, etc... ??? Is he doing something like that. You know that would happen in the old days. Use the young teens physical labor to do some odds and ends. Or is his kid just a prima donna player type? Does he have a function in the Clubhouse? Treat it like Disney and employment there. Make it like "Mickey's Clubhouse"... From the lowest guy to the highest star, "we all pitch in." Maybe Kenny Williams can find some odd jobs he can do? I think it's okay to have the kid in there sometimes, but the clubhouse is the players "place." It's where they can shed whatever public persona or PR agenda they have and cuss, gossip, tell crude stories/jokes, pull pranks on others, vent, etc... probably some players felt that having a kid around "all the time" prevented that from happening. The only analogy I can think of is if you have a group of buddies that you meet regularly or semi-regularly for beers, golf, bowling, whatever. What if one of those guys insisted on always bringing his kid along? Eventually, one of you guys would have to pull him aside and ask him not to bring the kid along all the time. In this case LaRoche decided he's not going to hang out with you guys for beers anymore. It was his choice to make. And like 4mer said, they could have asked him to stop sucking as well. This too! +1000! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 This sounds like the typical sports talk show topic -- a lot of blather about nothing. I'd guess he retired more as a result of being 36, having sharply declining skills and having already made $73MM in his baseball career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Yeah, he's clearly not mature enough to make dick jokes and brag about sex.......You can't question that having a kid (now 14 & I assume younger in years past) in the locker room would inhibit nearly every player at some time in some way. He made a decision and that's his choice just like it is the team's choice to set parameters around all kids in the LR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Great teaching moment for the kid. "What have we learned today son?" "We learned that if you don't get your way you quit." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 You can't question that having a kid (now 14 & I assume younger in years past) in the locker room would inhibit nearly every player at some time in some way. He made a decision and that's his choice just like it is the team's choice to set parameters around all kids in the LR. I didn't question his choice or the team's choice; I don't really have a problem with either one. I was just pointing out the irony of calling a guy a "baby" because he preferred to act like a man rather than a little boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) I feel he's being a baby. If one of his teammates wants to talk about the 4 girls he banged last night he can't do it because baby LaRoche is in the building. It's a locker room. Cursing, inappropriate music, penises and balls abound. Just throwing it out there again, LaRoche is a devout Christian from what I read. Maybe he is trying to keep the Clubhouse "honest" with his kid around. Yeah, a stretch... But not out of the realm if possibility. It definately goes deeper and the baggage (factor in his ADHD too) is more w/what LaRoche brings to the table... Not the White Sox. Sox are being totally reasonable and so is LaRoche w/saying he is choosing to retire if he wants to, he is 36. It is his right to retire if he is able to... Bye, frees up 13 million! He should think of family first, but don't be all holier than thou! Great, he is position to retire, such a wonderful thing to do for his child. It is, right? Edited March 17, 2016 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullpen Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 "We learned that if you don't get your way you quit." We have a winner!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) I can't think of another job where you can bring a teen to work with you every day. Manager of a textile plant, spokesman for a sandwich chain, African warlord, there are plenty of jobs where you can bring kids to work everyday. Edited March 17, 2016 by Jauronimo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 This sounds like the typical sports talk show topic -- a lot of blather about nothing. I'd guess he retired more as a result of being 36, having sharply declining skills and having already made $73MM in his baseball career. Yeah... Yep! Boy how convenient was all the other baggage! Like Chef said. IMO, what a great teaching moment from the annals of homeschooling. We made 70 mill in our career, just quit when we don't get our way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Yes, yes he is. Let the kid be a kid and do kid things. Hanging around dad 24 hours a day on the job is not healthy. What a weird story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I didn't question his choice or the team's choice; I don't really have a problem with either one. I was just pointing out the irony of calling a guy a "baby" because he preferred to act like a man rather than a little boy. Quitting because you didn't get your way is acting like a man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) I didn't question his choice or the team's choice; I don't really have a problem with either one. I was just pointing out the irony of calling a guy a "baby" because he preferred to act like a man rather than a little boy. Acting like a man he wouldn't expose his child to public scrutiny... He would have buried the incident and just retired saying his skills have diminished and he is 36. He acted anything like a man. Edited March 17, 2016 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Manager of a textile plant, spokesman for a sandwich chain, African warlord, there are plenty of jobs where you can bring kids to work everyday. You forgot owner of a restaurant. Thanks dad! BTW he called into his office one day and said "I'm giving you a raise." I said "you have to, they just raised minimum wage." Yeah I was an !@#$ even then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 Yeah, he's clearly not mature enough to make dick jokes and brag about sex....... I didn't create man. Some younger men enjoy dick jokes and sex talk. We come in all walks and forms. Great teaching moment for the kid. "What have we learned today son?" "We learned that if you don't get your way you quit." Yerp Yes, yes he is. Let the kid be a kid and do kid things. Hanging around dad 24 hours a day on the job is not healthy. What a weird story. Yerp. I didn't question his choice or the team's choice; I don't really have a problem with either one. I was just pointing out the irony of calling a guy a "baby" because he preferred to act like a man rather than a little boy. A man who can't be away from his son for a day ? Sounds like Norma and Norman Bates to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) Manager of a textile plant, spokesman for a sandwich chain, African warlord, there are plenty of jobs where you can bring kids to work everyday.You forgot lock & dam operator... I'd make my kid chop ice in the winter and drag out disabled boats in the summer... My child would beg me to stay home and play XBox... Damn pesky lawyers, OSHA, machinery, and modern work culture! If it was only 1938 again! Edited March 17, 2016 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) You forgot owner of a restaurant. Thanks dad! BTW he called into his office one day and said "I'm giving you a raise." I said "you have to, they just raised minimum wage." Yeah I was an !@#$ even then. You got paid? My wife runs a library... My son "vontunteers." That is, being 17... Young and strong he does any heavy lifting, crappy jobs that they need done when he heads into work w/her for "community service hours." Kinda like: "Hey, you know how to drive a truck?" "Sure Mom!" He gets into work: "That isn't a truck!... It is a wheelbarrow!" Damn librarians and their word play! "We have some landscaping and some community volunteer hours to offer." Edited March 17, 2016 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Quitting because you didn't get your way is acting like a man? I was referring to the fact hat he preferred to act like a father as opposed to a child. But I'd also suggest that deciding how you want to live your own life as opposed to allowing others to dictate your actions is also acting like a man. I didn't create man. Some younger men enjoy dick jokes and sex talk. We come in all walks and forms. That's fine; have yourself a good time. But calling a guy a "baby" because he's beyond that kids stuff strikes me as sort of stupid. If you feel compelled to insult somebody because they're different from you, at least make the insult fit. Call him a boring old fart instead........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 I was referring to the fact hat he preferred to act like a father as opposed to a child. But I'd also suggest that deciding how you want to live your own life as opposed to allowing others to dictate your actions is also acting like a man. That's fine; have yourself a good time. But calling a guy a "baby" because he's beyond that kids stuff strikes me as sort of stupid. If you feel compelled to insult somebody because they're different from you, at least make the insult fit. Call him a boring old fart instead........ Fair enough. I think he's a baby because he walked away 24 hours after management told him don't bring your kid to work EVERY day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 he's an out of control helicopter dad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I was referring to the fact hat he preferred to act like a father as opposed to a child. But I'd also suggest that deciding how you want to live your own life as opposed to allowing others to dictate your actions is also acting like a man. Yup obligations to a team, teammates, city, etc be damned. And quitting because he cannot take his child to work every day is not acting like a father. Seems more like an overbearing parent which is all too common these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 When you were this kiddo's age, would you have wanted to be around your dad all day long forever? That would have been my worst nightmare. My dad worked in a laboratory. Lots of peering into microscopes and clean rooms. No snacks. No talking. And everyone wore ties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 he's an out of control helicopter dad If he was dragging the kid in there or forcing him into things he didn't want to be involved in, then I totally agree with you. But if the kid was asking to come to the park for home games and he was just trying to spend some extra time with him before he grows up and disappears, then I'm not going to give him hell for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 If he was dragging the kid in there or forcing him into things he didn't want to be involved in, then I totally agree with you. But if the kid was asking to come to the park for home games and he was just trying to spend some extra time with him before he grows up and disappears, then I'm not going to give him hell for it. From what I've read here anyway was it was everyday. Even if the kid was begging to come dad needs to say no. A few times is ok but he needs to be hanging around with kids his own age. If I had kids the last place I'd want him hanging out is in a professional sports team locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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