Deactivate Mario??

[C.Biscuit97]

I guess I'll take your guys' opinions because I don't want to watch that game again. If the coaches felt he was giving no effort, then they should bench him.

 

But the much bigger point is how Rex ruined one of the best defenses in the NFL.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

Shelf this man. I was a big Mario supporter, but seeing him play patty cake all game yesterday angers me.

 

Save the 12 mil and get two decent to above average starters with it.

[C.Biscuit97]

Shelf this man. I was a big Mario supporter, but seeing him play patty cake all game yesterday angers me.

 

Save the 12 mil and get two decent to above average starters with it.

It will suck Mario will go to another team and be a pro bowler. If his effort is lacking, it is inexcusable. But man did Rex ruin a good thing.

[It's in My Blood]

He was definitely half-assing it yesterday. I was a huge Mario fan but yesterday was pathetic.

[PromoTheRobot]

Watched the replay. Mario does look like he's on cruise control.

[YoloinOhio]

Shelf this man. I was a big Mario supporter, but seeing him play patty cake all game yesterday angers me.

 

Save the 12 mil and get two decent to above average starters with it.

this. It's his own fault. Winners do whatever they can to help the team. Losers whine and blame others. He's never won anything. I don't care how many pro bowls he has made or will make. Highly disappointing.

[Nanker]

nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000452986/article/2014-allpro-teams-analysis-of-the-full-rosters

 

All pros magically just got bad!

That's LAST Year's list.

Edited December 28, 2015 by Nanker

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

Don't cut him - he'll sign with a contender. I say take him off the gameday roster.

[Santana]

Cut this dude, he checked out a long time ago.

[Bill from NYC]

prior to today, he had dropped back 21 times out of 795 snaps all season. That's not a lot at all and hardly worth the hype. I saw others say he dropped back a lot today - Rex probably pissed at him? However, I am sure you saw the plays when he was only asked to rush the passer and couldn't beat the TIGHT END blocking him 1:1.

Sometimes even when he doesn't drop back, he is merely holding his ground. He doesn't pursue the quarterback in this stupid defense. Once in a while he jumps, as if to block a pass. You do see this, no?

 

I cannot understand how a fan could not be outraged. Would people think it was normal if Richard Dent was covering receivers? Or Bruce Smith?

 

The situation is freaky and has destroyed this team.

 

PS: I do believe that he is dogging it. But Pegula will save 12 million if he is cut. It will cost more than 20 mil. to get rid of the biggest cause of failure, which is Rex.

Edited December 28, 2015 by Bill from NYC

[Best Player Available]

was it Deion Sanders when Mario signed in Buffalo, that said " you will never see the playoffs in Buffalo?"

Whoever said that. Well It was correctly called.

 

Who would have thought Marios lack of interest would contribute to that? He went into cruise control

Under Maroon too once they got eliminated every year. So Sunday everyone gets to see him stand there embarrass himself

Or legacy if he had one.

And more importantly the franchise in his last game as a Bill.

The scheme theory doesn't hold a lot of water imo. hasn't he dropped into coverage around 30 times all season?

hardly a major factor. Not absolving Rex of any blame. But the highest paid player on the team simply quit.

and amazingly everyone on OBD is seemingly OK with that?

[boyst]

Sometimes even when he doesn't drop back, he is merely holding his ground. He doesn't pursue the quarterback in this stupid defense. Once in a while he jumps, as if to block a pass. You do see this, no?

 

I cannot understand how a fan could not be outraged. Would people think it was normal if Richard Dent was covering receivers? Or Bruce Smith?

 

The situation is freaky and has destroyed this team.

 

PS: I do believe that he is dogging it. But Pegula will save 12 million if he is cut. It will cost more than 20 mil. to get rid of the biggest cause of failure, which is Rex.

Yes.

 

This.

 

+1,000,000.

 

This is exactly the issue.

 

Yolo, imagine if we all told you to no longer use Twitter for your sources and you have to go on YouTube comments?

 

This guy is being asked to do the ridiculous. I believe every single one of us would be upset if we were asked to do less or something that s not what we are known for, especially considering this is equivocal to a sales job and this is taking a cut of his commission.

[mchammer]

was it Deion Sanders when Mario signed in Buffalo, that said " you will never see the playoffs in Buffalo?"

Whoever said that. Well It was correctly called.

 

Who would have thought Marios lack of interest would contribute to that? He went into cruise control

Under Maroon too once they got eliminated every year. So Sunday everyone gets to see him stand there embarrass himself

Or legacy if he had one.

And more importantly the franchise in his last game as a Bill.

The scheme theory doesn't hold a lot of water imo. hasn't he dropped into coverage around 30 times all season?

hardly a major factor. Not absolving Rex of any blame. But the highest paid player on the team simply quit.

and amazingly everyone on OBD is seemingly OK with that?

It was Rodney Harrison who said he just took the money and will never get a Super bowl ring playing for the Bills.

[YoloinOhio]

Yes.

 

This.

 

+1,000,000.

 

This is exactly the issue.

 

Yolo, imagine if we all told you to no longer use Twitter for your sources and you have to go on YouTube comments?

 

This guy is being asked to do the ridiculous. I believe every single one of us would be upset if we were asked to do less or something that s not what we are known for, especially considering this is equivocal to a sales job and this is taking a cut of his commission.

i have always said that there should be shared accountability. Going back to the first part of the season. Not that the scheme is blameless - that is obvious. Instead of sharing some accountability for his poor effort and play, he continues to blame everything else around him. He is part of the problem, but he's never once admitted it or appeared to want to be part of the solution at least on the field. He's taking a poor scheme and making it worse by not trying or just straight up not beating his man when he is just asked to get to the QB. It's not about saying one side is right and the other is wrong. He doesn't get to take the season off and make the team worse because the scheme sucks. If he wants to win, he should still go balls to the wall on every play. It's highly disappointing. Edited December 28, 2015 by YoloinOhio

[dave mcbride]

Sometimes even when he doesn't drop back, he is merely holding his ground. He doesn't pursue the quarterback in this stupid defense. Once in a while he jumps, as if to block a pass. You do see this, no?

 

I cannot understand how a fan could not be outraged. Would people think it was normal if Richard Dent was covering receivers? Or Bruce Smith?

 

The situation is freaky and has destroyed this team.

 

PS: I do believe that he is dogging it. But Pegula will save 12 million if he is cut. It will cost more than 20 mil. to get rid of the biggest cause of failure, which is Rex.

He dropped back once against Washington--once. And it was a screen play in which his dropback screwed up the play. He doesn't drop back much at all, and Yolo has the stats to back it up.

[boyst]

was it Deion Sanders when Mario signed in Buffalo, that said " you will never see the playoffs in Buffalo?"

Whoever said that. Well It was correctly called.

 

Who would have thought Marios lack of interest would contribute to that? He went into cruise control

Under Maroon too once they got eliminated every year. So Sunday everyone gets to see him stand there embarrass himself

Or legacy if he had one.

And more importantly the franchise in his last game as a Bill.

The scheme theory doesn't hold a lot of water imo. hasn't he dropped into coverage around 30 times all season?

hardly a major factor. Not absolving Rex of any blame. But the highest paid player on the team simply quit.

and amazingly everyone on OBD is seemingly OK with that?

Mario Williams is 2nd on the team with sacks with 4.

Jerry Hughes has 5. He is a sack machine and busting his ass week after week. Even than, he has done a lot of stand up and hold ground play.

Dareus has 2 sacks.

 

Those three last year had 30+ sacks. This year, they have 11.

 

The rest of the team has 9.

 

 

It's more telling that Mario has 13 solo tackles vs. Hughes 35 solo. Total, Mario has 17 tackles and Hughes has 49. Teams are not running at Mario. Even our OLB's are ****.

 

Even last year Mario had a measly 42 tackles in a much different, more aggressive defense.

 

More telling information. Our Safeties have more than double the solo tackles (Graham 90, Rambo 44) of our MLB (Brown 63). Add Darby (61) and you have 195 solo tackles by DB's.

 

Last year, in Schwartz's run prone defense Gilmore (38), Brooks (30) and McKelvin (45) had 113. Spikes had 33. Brown 66. Alonso in 2013 had 87 solo. We had 57 sacks and 23 INT's that year, lest anyone forget.

 

 

 

The stats there tell you that Rex Ryans defense is **** against the run. It's more than players not getting it - it is putting too much on the smaller DB's to stop the run and that results in injuries - Aaron Williams and Stephon Gilmore!

 

Rex Ryan must go.

He dropped back once against Washington--once. And it was a screen play in which his dropback screwed up the play. He doesn't drop back much at all, and Yolo has the stats to back it up.

those stats just explain the drop backs. the drop backs are not the issue. the issue is that he and the rest of this defense are not playing their best possible football.

 

see above at my last post.

 

Ryan is asking these guys to hold a solid line and when you're sack machine DL had 34 sacks between MWilliams, Hughes and Dareus and now they have 1/3 of that and those three have 114 tackles this year whilst 143 last year (Kyle had 42). Include Bryant this year and add 40. Either way, our guys are being tasked to hold the line and let the LB's clean up the play.

 

This is the type of defense where you need great LB's to overcome everything. It puts everything. . . . EVERYTHING . . . . on the LB squad. If they can't get in to position due to smarts or speed we're screwed and the DB's have to clean up. That's what is happening and that is what failed us. We stopped doing what we were good at because Rex is a moron.

i have always said that there should be shared accountability. Going back to the first part of the season. Not that the scheme is blameless - that is obvious. Instead of sharing some accountability for his poor effort and play, he continues to blame everything else around him. He is part of the problem, but he's never once admitted it or appeared to want to be part of the solution at least on the field. He's taking a poor scheme and making it worse by not trying or just straight up not beating his man when he is just asked to get to the QB. It's not about saying one side is right and the other is wrong. He doesn't get to take the season off and make the team worse because the scheme sucks. If he wants to win, he should still go balls to the wall on every play. It's highly disappointing.

I know I am not an expert but this is my honest input here.

 

what he is being asked to do is so easy to him, so simple and requires so little effort he just doesn't care anymore. Literally, in this scheme he is asked to hold the edge and not let the run come his way. To seal the edge and let the DT's and LB's take care of it. He is simply being asked to go out there and make sure the play goes inside. It's such rudimentary football that anyone can do it and it is not utilizing his talent.

 

I came to this conclusion watching footage of the last few years of Jets D. The Jets/Ryan never had good DE's like we have (yes, he's had 34 DE's but they're soooo different). He doesn't know how to use them. He always had a good MLB and great DT's. Now he had both and even better pass rushing DE's. He has always used excellent man coverage CB's and the run stopping SS, smart enough to stop whatever the rest of the team misses. The clean up guy.

 

Rex in Buffalo has outstanding pass rushing DE's and DT's. Lousy LB's. Phenomenal CB's. And above average Safeties. He doesn't know how to work with the talent he has because he has never had this type of talent.

 

This worries me; he's going to want to neglect the pass rush in a league that is all passing to bring in big stuffing DT/NT. He's going to bring in totally different MLB's and put it all on a mixture of 3 CB's who have never covered in the league without a pass rush. Who often find themselves trailing and needing safety help over the top. Those safeties won't be there to help because they'll be helping on the run and their first step will be forward.

 

Our Defense, if Ryan is still here, will look like the Poz/George Wilson/Kelsey/Florence type of defense. I promise.

[YoloinOhio]

He played 54 snaps (92%) and didn't record a single assisted tackle. He had Zero Point Zero on the stat sheet. It isn't ALL scheme. He isn't wrong about the scheme isn't a good fit for him, no one is saying that he is. But he is not winning his 1:1 battles when he is just rushing passer and you would think he could record an assisted tackle even by accident.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Rex wouldn't consider such a thing.

He's too much of a "players coach"

[GG]

Don't look at the stats, watch the game. He quit on his team in the most team oriented game.

[boyst]

He played 54 snaps (92%) and didn't record a single assisted tackle. He had Zero Point Zero on the stat sheet. It isn't ALL scheme. He isn't wrong about the scheme isn't a good fit for him, no one is saying that he is. But he is not winning his 1:1 battles when he is just rushing passer and you would think he could record an assisted tackle even by accident.

yesterday not withstanding, yes, it was clear he just didnt' care.

 

there was an article last offseason that he is not winning 1:1 battles. it was remarkable. trapasso even had an article this past week about it. mario has never been that great at the 1:1 matchup. that is why he SHOULD be succeeding in this scheme - he should be fitting in well holding up guys and consuming blockers/space. but, even when he does and had done so earlier his LB's were miserably failing to step up and stop the run. there were a lot of second level runs even if we ahve been a good run defense.

 

we've been a good run defense because we had mario and hughes set the outside edge. i promise.