ko12010 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 And there are only 7 referees on the field with 22 players running around, some at high speed. It's not an easy task. The refs have been horrible for many years now. It's not new. It has just reached epic levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Paulson Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 And there are only 7 referees on the field with 22 players running around, some at high speed. It's not an easy task. the problem is they are 50-60 year old men who can't keep up with how fast the game is being played. they were fine for 3 yards and a cloud of dust but not now NHL and Soccer Refs are in their 30s and 40s and can get in position to make the correct call more than likely. full time younger refs with a simpler rule book is the way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 the problem is they are 50-60 year old men who can't keep up with how fast the game is being played. they were fine for 3 yards and a cloud of dust but not now NHL and Soccer Refs are in their 30s and 40s and can get in position to make the correct call more than likely. full time younger refs with a simpler rule book is the way to go Are you willing to take the lumps of a new, young crew for a few years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 the problem is they are 50-60 year old men who can't keep up with how fast the game is being played. they were fine for 3 yards and a cloud of dust but not now NHL and Soccer Refs are in their 30s and 40s and can get in position to make the correct call more than likely. full time younger refs with a simpler rule book is the way to go pretty much sums it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 the rules and the NFL trending have made the Officials job impossible to be successful. What IS holding? Draw the line. call everything on everyone or call nothing. But please make the game a level playing field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 It's become an impossible job. Yeah, it is. Imagine an entire nation looking over your shoulder (in hi def with super slow mo) while you work and calling you an idiot every time you made a mistake. I wouldnt want that job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 How is that being held accountable? Are they being docked pay? Suspended? No. Simply moved from one game to another so the entire country won't see their fvck ups... Its ridiculous...they literally have cost teams games this year and will likely play a role in teams making or missing the playoffs and nothing of consequence is done. If I am the owners I would be throwing a sh!t fit in the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 The refs have been horrible for many years now. It's not new. It has just reached epic levels. I think at least part of the problem is that we KNOW what happened now, and with prior video tech we were mostly just guessing. The number of plays and calls that we're tough to call based on the video evidence was much much larger even just 10 years ago, now we can almost always tell for sure, and because of that we want a perfectly called game which will never really happen when humans are doing the officiating. while watching it live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 the rules and the NFL trending have made the Officials job impossible to be successful. What IS holding? Draw the line. call everything on everyone or call nothing. But please make the game a level playing field Just do a booth review of every player on every play, assess the penalties cumulatively, then move on to the next play. If the league wants to give arcane, nitpicky rules primacy over the game and give everyone the experience of viewing the legal drama of rules interpretation, just take it to its logical extreme. This only gets fixed when it starts impacting the league's bottom line - when more people say "!@#$ it, I want to watch football, not officiating. I'm not watching this bull **** any more" like I have. Until then, not only is the league doing nothing more than rearranging deck chairs, but the ship hasn't even hit the iceberg yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 The poor officiating is the thing right now most likely to bring down the NFL. I have started comparing the officiating to the WWF and thus why watch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 The poor officiating is the thing right now most likely to bring down the NFL. I have started comparing the officiating to the WWF and thus why watch? Yet you are watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Dog Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 It's like watching the replacement refs during the strike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 the problem is they are 50-60 year old men who can't keep up with how fast the game is being played. they were fine for 3 yards and a cloud of dust but not now NHL and Soccer Refs are in their 30s and 40s and can get in position to make the correct call more than likely. full time younger refs with a simpler rule book is the way to go 50-60 would be younger guys these guys are 67-68-69 as head officials and from what i've seen the "boys" on the crew top that. Not much can be done this year, I've been harping on this quite a while. Just think of this statement.....once I retire I'm gonna go ref in the NFL that's basically whats going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Just do a booth review of every player on every play, assess the penalties cumulatively, then move on to the next play. If the league wants to give arcane, nitpicky rules primacy over the game and give everyone the experience of viewing the legal drama of rules interpretation, just take it to its logical extreme. This only gets fixed when it starts impacting the league's bottom line - when more people say "!@#$ it, I want to watch football, not officiating. I'm not watching this bull **** any more" like I have. Until then, not only is the league doing nothing more than rearranging deck chairs, but the ship hasn't even hit the iceberg yet. I honestly don't think it's fixable without nearly grinding to a halt. Worse yet as i think you are mentioning , I am not sure they are even trying. Entertainment value. whether good or bad , is what the NFL is. And we all know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Funny as the only punishment is they moved the crew to a day game vs a primetime game. how would you like to be those two teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Funny as the only punishment is they moved the crew to a day game vs a primetime game. how would you like to be those two teams? We are that secondary, non-national game. Perhaps not for this crew, but generally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Morelli’s crew reassigned to Eagles-Patriots game http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/12/01/report-morellis-crew-reassigned-to-eagles-patriots-game/ CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) Yet you are watching. For now. i am hoping that it will get corrected. If it stays this bad i think the NFL will see ratings dip. I have never seen it as consistently bad as it is this year. Sure there have always been bad calls, but this year it is atrocious. The NFL needs to find some younger in shape guys. Enough with the 50+ old men who simply can not get in position to make a call. The only reason i can see the NFL using this old man policy is because they believe these men are beyond being bought off. There really is no other reason to use old guys. Anyone who played the game into college can have a very good grasp of the game. They can be trained on the finer points of officiating. Get some ex college players to be officials. Guys who played the game and understand it and can see and get in position to make a call. Edited December 2, 2015 by atlbillsfan1975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 The issue that came up on the morning drive this morning by Bob Papa i agree with is the advent of HD and increased cameras. Is officiating worse, or do we have so much technology, visibility, and slow motion, we see so much more than before. Is it even possible to improve? As to age, these guys are well experienced and the point is they are not as influenced by players. The truth is somewhere in the middle. It does make sense we are seeing more than we missed 5 years ago. We have a lot more cameras on every angle than we have ever had before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 How about for once the Bills not leave it in the refs hands? Ever think of playing well for 60 min? Glad the refs never caught Hughes grabbing the one guys face mask and pulling him down to keep him from getting up from the pile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) Two Ref's threads so I'll post this twice. Too little too late Roger http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14276706/nfl-commissioner-roger-goodell-says-league-look-improve-rule-defining-catch-is Roger Goodell: 'We want to find a better solution' for defining a catch Edited December 3, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 It's about time they did something !! They also need to look at changing or clarifying the catch rule because it blows !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Yeah..so accountable...Robey AGAIN is told by the NFL he shouldn't have been flagged for Pass Interference on a key play in the game...what makes it worse is it was the SAME crew that flagged him for that BS penalty against Jacksonville. Both led to key touchdowns in the game soon after. Yeah...reeeealllll accountable. Hey, no problem, our refs keep fvcking up key plays in the game helping you lose, we admit they were wrong, but oh well. Nothing you can do now, we'll just give them a slap on the wrist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 the problem is they are 50-60 year old men who can't keep up with how fast the game is being played. they were fine for 3 yards and a cloud of dust but not now NHL and Soccer Refs are in their 30s and 40s and can get in position to make the correct call more than likely. full time younger refs with a simpler rule book is the way to go I disagree with this. I don't think the problem is the refs are not in position. Most of the time I see bad calls there is a ref standing right there. Refs really don't have to run that much. They have 7 of them and they are strategically positioned around the field. Soccer is different because they only have one on the field (at least in MLS) so he HAS to run around to see what's going on. I don't think that's the case in football. They're in position, they just make bad calls. The simpler rule book I agree with 100% though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Then there's this http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000593138/article/roger-goodell-our-officials-do-an-extraordinary-job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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