Another crack at 53

[....lybob]

Quarterbacks (2): EJ Manuel, Tyrod Taylor

Running backs (4): LeSean McCoy, Boobie Dixon, Karlos Williams, Bryce Brown

Fullbacks (1): Jerome Felton

Wide receivers (6): Sammy Watkins, Percy Harvin, Robert Woods, Chris Hogan, Marcus Easley, Marquise Goodwin

Tight ends (3): Charles Clay, MarQueis Gray, Nick O'Leary

Tackles: (4): Cordy Glenn, Seantrel Henderson, Cyrus Kouandjio , Tyson Chandler

Guards (4): Richie Incognito, Evan Mathis, John Miller, Cyril Richardson

Centers (2): Eric Wood, Kraig Urbik

Defensive tackles (5): Kyle Williams, Marcell Dareus Corbin Bryant, Alex Carrington DE/DT, Stefan Charles

Defensive ends (4): Mario Williams, Jerry Hughes, Jarius Wynn, Michael Buchanan

Strongside linebackers (2): Manny Lawson, Randell Johnson

Middle/weakside linebackers (3): Nigel Bradham, Preston Brown, Ty Powell

Cornerbacks (5): Stephon Gilmore, Leodis McKelvin, Nickell Robey, Ronald Darby, Ross Cockrell

Safeties (5): Aaron Williams, Duke Williams, Corey Graham, Bacarri Rambo, Jonathan Meeks

Specialists (3): Dan Carpenter, Colton Schmidt, Garrison Sanborn

Practice squad: Matt Simms QB, Dezmin Lewis WR, Clay Burton TE, Chris Manhertz TE, William Campbell G, Cedric Reed DE, Justin Hamilton DT, Tony Steward LB, Merril Noel CB, Jermaine Barton OT

[John from Riverside]

Evan Mathis?

[....lybob]

Evan Mathis?

yep, why not

[YattaOkasan]

From the OP I would

 

drop Bryce Brown and add Fred Jackson

Not assume we have Evan Mathis and put Connor as back up FB

Buchanan is on PS and Cassel is 3rd QB

 

Good first swing although ambitious with Mathis

Edited June 15, 2015 by YattaOkasan

[maddenboy]

how you gonna pay for mathis?

 

How you gonna justify burning all the cap space on Mathis?

 

fuggetabboutit.

[....lybob]

how you gonna pay for mathis?

 

How you gonna justify burning all the cap space on Mathis?

 

fuggetabboutit.

well you notice Cassel 4.2mil , Chris Williams 2mil and Fred Jackson 2.7 mil are not on the team

[FluffHead]

You forgot Da'Rick Rogers

[....lybob]

You forgot Da'Rick Rogers

Didn't forget Da'Rick or Kamar they just play for KC and Baltimore respectively

[boyst]

Jordan Gay will make the team, don't ask me exactly why but I think its a good move.

 

I like that Tony Steward dude.

[Codyny13]

Seems as though the Pegula's actually care about what us fans actually think. That being said, they stepped in to make sure Fred wasn't released. He'll be on this roster this year. I can see a qb released though, although Rex says he can't see that happening.

[TPS]

That's ballsy lybob. No Freddie. Maybe his time is up, but we'd all puke our brains out to find out he signs with the Pats...

 

I can't see them without Cassel. It's always good to have a veteran if things go wrong.

 

I'm not sure what the Tyson Chandler hype is all about? Practice squad. They will go with 3 OTs on the 53.

[LeGOATski]

Boobie instead of Fred is a horrible decision, I think.

 

Other than that, this is reasonable for a mid-June depth chart.

[Rocky Landing]

Personel are listed as they are on the current roster per BuffaloBills.com:

 

QB (3) M. Cassel, EJ Manuel, T. Taylor (maybe not in that order)

C (1) Eric Wood

G (4) R. Incognito, J. Miller, K. Urbik, C. Richardson

T (4) C. Glenn, S. Henderson, C. Kouandjio, T. Chandler

RB (4) L.McCoy, F. Jackson, K. Williams, A. Dixon

FB (1) J. Felton

TE (3) C. Clay, M. Gray, N. O’Leary

W (6) S. Watkins, P. Harvin, R. Woods, C. Hogan, M. Easley, D. Lewis

DE (5) M. Williams, J. Hughs, J. Wynn, M. Lawson, M. Buchanon

DT (4) K. Williams, M. Darius, A. Carrington, S. Charles

LB (5) N. Bradham, P Brown, R.Johnson, Ty Powell, T. Steward

CB (5) S. Gilmore, L. McKelvin, N. Robey, R. Darby, R. Brooks

S (4) A. Williams, C. Graham, D. Williams, B. Rambo

LS (1) G. Sanborne

K/P (3) D. Carpenter, C. Schmidt, J. Gay

[Best Player Available]

Easley does not play offense.

[KDIGGZ]

this might be the worst 53 guess I've ever seen

[playman]

you don´t keep 10 OL. you keep 8 at best. and with ubrik backing up at G and C we might keep only 7

[Kirby Jackson]

QB- Cassel, EJ, Tyrod

RB- Shady, Fred, Boobie, Karlos

FB- Felton

WR- Watkins, Woods, Harvin, Hogan, Goodwin, Easley

TE- Clay, O'Leary, Gray

OT- Glenn, Henderson, Cyrus,

OG- Miller, Incognito, Urbik, Richardson

C- Wood

 

DE (or OLB)- Mario, Hughes, Wynn, Lawson, Randell

DT- Kyle, Dareus, Charles, Bryant, Carrington

LB- Brown, Bradham, Powell, Steward

CB- Gilmore, McKelvin, Darby, Robey, Brooks, Cockerill

S- AW, Graham, Duke, Rambo

 

K- Carpenter, Gay

LS- Sanborn

P- Schmidt

Edited June 15, 2015 by Kirby Jackson

[Matt in KC]

QB- Cassel, EJ, Tyrod

RB- Shady, Fred, Boobie, Karlos

FB- Felton

WR- Watkins, Woods, Harvin, Hogan, Goodwin, Easley

TE- Clay, O'Leary, Gray

OT- Glenn, Henderson, Cyrus,

OG- Miller, Incognito, Urbik, Richardson

C- Wood

 

DE (or OLB)- Mario, Hughes, Wynn, Lawson, Randell

DT- Kyle, Dareus, Charles, Bryant, Carrington

LB- Brown, Bradham, Powell, Steward

CB- Gilmore, McKelvin, Darby, Robey, Brooks, Cockerill

S- AW, Graham, Duke, Rambo

 

K- Carpenter, Gay

LS- Sanborn

P- Schmidt

Now that looks a lot more like what I expect.

 

Who were your hardest cuts? I'm still not convinced Hogan makes the team, though he did better than expected last year....

 

I know most teams don't carry a FB these days. Do teams ever carry two? (John Conner)

[BuffaninATL]

Didn't forget Da'Rick or Kamar they just play for KC and Baltimore respectively

umm, I think Fluff was joking with the Da'Rick reference...

[thebandit27]

QB- Cassel, EJ, Tyrod

RB- Shady, Fred, Boobie, Karlos

FB- Felton

WR- Watkins, Woods, Harvin, Hogan, Goodwin, Easley

TE- Clay, O'Leary, Gray

OT- Glenn, Henderson, Cyrus,

OG- Miller, Incognito, Urbik, Richardson

C- Wood

 

DE (or OLB)- Mario, Hughes, Wynn, Lawson, Randell

DT- Kyle, Dareus, Charles, Bryant, Carrington

LB- Brown, Bradham, Powell, Steward

CB- Gilmore, McKelvin, Darby, Robey, Brooks, Cockerill

S- AW, Graham, Duke, Rambo

 

K- Carpenter, Gay

LS- Sanborn

P- Schmidt

Nice work.

 

My only difference is I had them keeping Buchanan over Gay.

[BuffaninATL]

Easley does not play offense.

he just happens to be the most valuable player on special teams; WR is the position he happens to play

[....lybob]

umm, I think Fluff was joking with the Da'Rick reference...

yep, that was me joking back

[Kirby Jackson]

Now that looks a lot more like what I expect.

 

Who were your hardest cuts? I'm still not convinced Hogan makes the team, though he did better than expected last year....

 

I know most teams don't carry a FB these days. Do teams ever carry two? (John Conner)

I think that carrying 3 tackles was tough but I suppose with an injury they will sign one or bring one off of the practice squad.

 

I think that Bryce Brown has talent but he feels like he is on the outside looking in. Dez Lewis will hopefully make it to the practice squad. I cut Meeks and Ladler too who I think could both be NFL players. I like Thigpen too but don't think that they carry a return man. The same goes for John Conner (he was probably my last cut).

[....lybob]

That's ballsy lybob. No Freddie. Maybe his time is up, but we'd all puke our brains out to find out he signs with the Pats...

 

I can't see them without Cassel. It's always good to have a veteran if things go wrong.

 

I'm not sure what the Tyson Chandler hype is all about? Practice squad. They will go with 3 OTs on the 53.

If you want Mathis and to extend Dareus you need to cut players with a decent cap savings- cutting just Chris Williams doesn't do it - love Fred and have nothing against Cassel but that's where the money is.

 

Tyson Chandler - almost 37 inch arms and 31 BP, played in college at around 360lbs and was scouted as having slow feet but is down to 330lbs and movement is much better than expected, basically Bills have an undrafted FA with the physical qualities of a 2nd or 3rd round player- I'd be afraid that he'd be snatched eventually from the practice squad .

Edited June 15, 2015 by ....lybob

[YoloinOhio]

Now that looks a lot more like what I expect.

 

Who were your hardest cuts? I'm still not convinced Hogan makes the team, though he did better than expected last year....

 

I know most teams don't carry a FB these days. Do teams ever carry two? (John Conner)

i really think Hogan is looking like a lock. Sal said he was the #3 WR last week (harvin wasn't there) and he sees him no lower than 4th in depth chart. Coaches gushing too about his route running. He may not be sammy/percy/woods talent but I think they see him as dependable and great attitude who can play too. I still think Goodwin makes it also. Edited June 15, 2015 by YoloinOhio

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Now that looks a lot more like what I expect.

 

Who were your hardest cuts? I'm still not convinced Hogan makes the team, though he did better than expected last year....

 

I know most teams don't carry a FB these days. Do teams ever carry two? (John Conner)

Hogan is the only wr on the team that can play special teams coverage and run routes. He's like a combo of woods an Easley (of course not quite as good as either but functional in both their spots)

 

Players like that are sticky. He's more productive and versatile as a wr than Goodwin. He's actually 4th best wr and pressing for top 3.

Edited June 15, 2015 by over 20 years of fanhood

[thebandit27]

Hogan is the only wr on the team that can play special teams coverage and run routes. He's like a combo of woods an Easley (of course not quite as good as either but functional in both their spots)

Woods can most certainly play ST; it just isn't a great investment to have him do so and risk injury covering kicks when guys like Easley, Powell, Brooks, Graham, Duke, Rambo, etc are just as capable.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Woods can most certainly play ST; it just isn't a great investment to have him do so and risk injury covering kicks when guys like Easley, Powell, Brooks, Graham, Duke, Rambo, etc are just as capable.

Possible, I've just never seen it so I don't know. Hogan made some nice plays as s gunner last year, so we've seen it... but if woods can do STs, he may be called on this year to do just that given his slide down the depth chart. Also if it's the case he is effective there then yeah hogans less valuable.

 

Edit- I didn't remember him doing kickoff coverage, but nice hit vs Fins proves otherwise.

Edited June 15, 2015 by over 20 years of fanhood

[Kirby Jackson]

Possible, I've just never seen it so I don't know. Hogan made some nice plays as s gunner last year, so we've seen it... but if woods can do STs, he may be called on this year to do just that given his slide down the depth chart. Also if it's the case he is effective there then yeah hogans less valuable.

He is the #2 WR

[YoloinOhio]

Possible, I've just never seen it so I don't know. Hogan made some nice plays as s gunner last year, so we've seen it... but if woods can do STs, he may be called on this year to do just that given his slide down the depth chart. Also if it's the case he is effective there then yeah hogans less valuable.

woods played on ST last year

[thebandit27]

Possible, I've just never seen it so I don't know. Hogan made some nice plays as s gunner last year, so we've seen it... but if woods can do STs, he may be called on this year to do just that given his slide down the depth chart. Also if it's the case he is effective there then yeah hogans less valuable.

You've seen it, you just forgot:

 

http://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2014/09/robert_woods_big_hit_part_of_b.html

[Matt in KC]

I think that carrying 3 tackles was tough but I suppose with an injury they will sign one or bring one off of the practice squad.

I think that Bryce Brown has talent but he feels like he is on the outside looking in. Dez Lewis will hopefully make it to the practice squad. I cut Meeks and Ladler too who I think could both be NFL players. I like Thigpen too but don't think that they carry a return man. The same goes for John Conner (he was probably my last cut).

Yeah, I could see any of these guys making the team (plus the others you listed):

* John Conner

* Dez Lewis

* Meeks

* Buchanon

* Thigpen

 

At the expense of:

* Randell Johnson

* Brooks - they need the support; I just haven't seen enough good CB play from him yet

* Gay

* Hogan

* Goodwin

 

Also, I could see them dropping Carrington, though I'm hopeful he has continued to improve and makes the team.

[Best Player Available]

he just happens to be the most valuable player on special teams; WR is the position he happens to play

checkout his rotoworld profile WR is a position he happens too no longer play according to them. As a bill never really did. I am certainly aware of his special teams work, otherwise he would be out of football.

[VABills]

Seems as though the Pegula's actually care about what us fans actually think. That being said, they stepped in to make sure Fred wasn't released. He'll be on this roster this year. I can see a qb released though, although Rex says he can't see that happening.

Marv Levy used to say that when you start listening to the fans you wind up joining them in the bleachers.

[Thunderstealer]

Is this a big cut Fred thread?

[Codyny13]

Marv Levy used to say that when you start listening to the fans you wind up joining them in the bleachers.

Marv also hired dick Jauron..."they can't all be winners" (billy bob Thornton, Bad Santa)

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

You've seen it, you just forgot:

 

http://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2014/09/robert_woods_big_hit_part_of_b.html

Thanks- my bad. And how could I forgot a nice play like that on a pretty good player to boot.

He is the #2 WR

So you're saying its:

1.watkins

2.Woods

3. Harvin?

 

I had him behind Percey but I guess we will find out going through camp.

[Kirby Jackson]

Thanks- my bad. And how could I forgot a nice play like that on a pretty good player to boot.

 

So you're saying its:

1.watkins

2.Woods

3. Harvin?

 

I had him behind Percey but I guess we will find out going through camp.

Yeah, I think Harvin is going to be primarily in the slot and moved around. Woods is the prototype #2 to me anyways. He's a solid blocker and route runner but lacks the explosion to be a #1. He is very reliable.

[John from Riverside]

 

Yeah, I could see any of these guys making the team (plus the others you listed):

* John Conner

* Dez Lewis

* Meeks

* Buchanon

* Thigpen

 

I think Dez Lewis and Buchanon might go to practice squad. I think Meeks and Thigpen probably get the ax in the numbers game.

 

At the expense of:

* Randell Johnson

* Brooks - they need the support; I just haven't seen enough good CB play from him yet

* Gay

* Hogan

* Goodwin

 

I absolutely believe Randell Johnson makes it.....brooks and gay might be cuts......I think Hogan and Goodwin are battling for one spot.

 

Also, I could see them dropping Carrington, though I'm hopeful he has continued to improve and makes the team.

 

If Carrington is healthy no way he gets dropped......the guy is big and versitile a great backup type DL

 

[YattaOkasan]

I think it will be hard to say who the #2 is at the start of the season between Harvin and Woods. I expect their snap counts to be similar and both to line up in the slot and outside. With that being said I think Woods gets more targets because Harvin draws more attention. I don't think we'll know who the #2 is until mid-season.

Edited June 15, 2015 by YattaOkasan