Rubes Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 No, I certainly didn't know they were bad picks at the time, but what does that have to do with whether or not they were good picks? They weren't, nor was Williams a good free agent. Whaley failed, in other words. What, do you want to give him credit for trying, is that it? If the Bills are "bringing in" people of the same quality as Kujo, Richardson, et al., then they'll fail again. Not sure I follow you. Are you happy as long as they seem to be trying hard? If so, you're pretty easy to please. (But you have picked a good team to follow.) I was responding to your comment that "my restraint in previous years regarding the offensive line ("of course they'll address it") was not rewarded." The point is that Whaley most definitely did try to address it, by signing a FA guard and drafting three offensive linemen. Four new offensive linement in one offseason, which is most certainly putting effort into addressing the offensive line. Now, you may object to the way he did it (eg, by relying too much on the draft) or you may criticize the players he brought in (eg, Williams), but the point is that Whaley didn't ignore the offensive line last year. You can criticize Whaley for not knowing how to build an offensive line, or for not being a good enough evaluator of offensive line talent. You can even say that you don't have trust in Whaley at this point to fix the offensive line because the guys he brings in are bums. But last year most of us were impressed with him grabbing Kujo in round 2, thought Richardson could excel at guard, and were excited about the potential for Henderson. It seemed like Whaley was building something potentially pretty good for the future. Now that we see that some of those guys aren't very good, or at least have a long way to go before being decent starters, you can criticize his talent evaluation. But that doesn't mean he isn't going to go out there again this year and try again to fix the problem. In fact, we've heard quite the opposite so far. You can feel bad about his ability to pick OL talent, but you can hardly criticize his effort to improve it. So the reason for your angst about addressing the offensive line again this year appears misguided, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) Two things about our OL from last year well....3....Seantrel played well enough to get another look at RT The other two guys? They should get their chance in camp but I wouldnt count on them at all Edited February 16, 2015 by John from Hemet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 The info is wishy washy. Not really definitive. "Revis is possible and maybe what we'll do but maybe not." I can "expect" to bring home a model, but it doesn't normally happen. We had similar comments for Jerry and Byrd by the way. None of this is groundbreaking stuff. Just "all the right," things. Yea- the last couple KM bits seem to be a mix of common sense observations coupled with vague possible actions. If he has a source still, it's not a source that likes him much imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I think the big unknown with the oline is coaching and scheme. It's been implied that some of the guys will fit reps scheme better than they fit Marrones which seems odd. We saw a regression in their play, and if dw blames that on the former employees he may ride it out with the guys he has, at least through the first group of otas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 Today's edition @KevinMassare: According to source: the Bills "are still very much on the hook for EJs rookie deal, would make no sense to let him go right now" @KevinMassare: Source " We love Dareus in here, we'll be working on his extension as soon as we can, we're preparing". @KevinMassare: Source: "we've given Josh McCown our best offer, if he chooses elsewhere so be it, Offensive staff likes him, won't be heartbroken". @KevinMassare: Source: "Salary wise we are in great shape, of course. We will be making some more moves to put us in better shape". @KevinMassare: Source: "I'll tell you, we are doing everything we can do find the right TE for our system, we need a versatile weapon, resources allocated" @KevinMassare: Source: "I think Rex would kill us if we let Gilmore walk. He is a guy he wants to build around." @KevinMassare: Also: "Running back is talked about at nauseam in the room. We need the right guy, and feel we have identified a few targets. Ready to act". @KevinMassare: More: "we will be looking at the recently released guards, there are a few that can really help this team". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Today's edition @KevinMassare: According to source: the Bills "are still very much on the hook for EJs rookie deal, would make no sense to let him go right now" @KevinMassare: Source " We love Dareus in here, we'll be working on his extension as soon as we can, we're preparing". @KevinMassare: Source: "we've given Josh McCown our best offer, if he chooses elsewhere so be it, Offensive staff likes him, won't be heartbroken". @KevinMassare: Source: "Salary wise we are in great shape, of course. We will be making some more moves to put us in better shape". @KevinMassare: Source: "I'll tell you, we are doing everything we can do find the right TE for our system, we need a versatile weapon, resources allocated" @KevinMassare: Source: "I think Rex would kill us if we let Gilmore walk. He is a guy he wants to build around." @KevinMassare: Also: "Running back is talked about at nauseam in the room. We need the right guy, and feel we have identified a few targets. Ready to act". @KevinMassare: More: "we will be looking at the recently released guards, there are a few that can really help this team". go on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 The stuff is always so plausibly vague and nuanced. If it materializes, great, pound the chest. If it doesn't, he's always left an out. I bet anyone of us could come up with these tweets for next week's edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 @KevinMassare: Once again, i've never claimed to be important, get paid, or be anyone special, you guys ask me certain things and I ask them. @KevinMassare: I was told that the Bills could see Graham as a starting safety based on how FA goes. Very high on Duke Williams as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Today's edition @KevinMassare: According to source: the Bills "are still very much on the hook for EJs rookie deal, would make no sense to let him go right now" @KevinMassare: Source " We love Dareus in here, we'll be working on his extension as soon as we can, we're preparing". @KevinMassare: Source: "we've given Josh McCown our best offer, if he chooses elsewhere so be it, Offensive staff likes him, won't be heartbroken". @KevinMassare: Source: "Salary wise we are in great shape, of course. We will be making some more moves to put us in better shape". @KevinMassare: Source: "I'll tell you, we are doing everything we can do find the right TE for our system, we need a versatile weapon, resources allocated" @KevinMassare: Source: "I think Rex would kill us if we let Gilmore walk. He is a guy he wants to build around." @KevinMassare: Also: "Running back is talked about at nauseam in the room. We need the right guy, and feel we have identified a few targets. Ready to act". @KevinMassare: More: "we will be looking at the recently released guards, there are a few that can really help this team". Where is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Where is that? The old rest rooms at the Ralph, I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Some of the OLmen we added last year were pretty green. It isn't unreasonable to expect an improvement this year. Always seems to be someone who surprises us with better than expected play. Look what happened to McKelvin. Before his injury last year he was playing at a probowl level. People tend to forget that players actually do some times develop. Who knows, maybe even EJ will develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I wonder if one of the guards they are looking at is Blaylock.....a total power road grater Seems to fit Roman's scheme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I'm hoping for franklin or boling. iupati is gonna just be too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Here's the list of UFAs available. There are lots of possibilites with guys who have been consistent starters and are 31 or younger (and not named Lou Potty). GuardsJustin Blalock, Atlanta Falcons Clint Boling, Cincinnati Bengals James Brewer, New York Giants James Carpenter, Seattle Seahawks Daryn Colledge, Miami Dolphins Willie Colon, New York Jets Dan Connolly, New England Patriots Vladimir Ducasse, Minnesota Vikings Orlando Franklin, Denver Broncos Mike Iupati, San Francisco 49ers John Jerry, New York Giants Charlie Johnson, Minnesota Vikings Mike Johnson, Atlanta Falcons Davin Joseph, St. Louis Rams Mike McGlynn, Kansas City Chiefs Erik Pears, Buffalo Bills Will Rackley, Baltimore Ravens Jah Reid, Baltimore Ravens Rob Sims, Detroit Lions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 @KevinMassare: Once again, i've never claimed to be important, get paid, or be anyone special, you guys ask me certain things and I ask them. @KevinMassare: I was told that the Bills could see Graham as a starting safety based on how FA goes. Very high on Duke Williams as well. Making Graham the starter at safety gets the Bills their best four DBs out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Today's edition @KevinMassare: According to source: the Bills "are still very much on the hook for EJs rookie deal, would make no sense to let him go right now"@KevinMassare This blows up LMO's story that they would cut EJ. That made no sense anyhow. They still have to pay him so why not give him a shot to compete? Even if they bring in 3 more QB's I still want to see EJ compete with them and let the best man win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Here's the list of UFAs available. There are lots of possibilites with guys who have been consistent starters and are 31 or younger (and not named Lou Potty). Guards Justin Blalock, Atlanta Falcons Clint Boling, Cincinnati Bengals James Brewer, New York Giants James Carpenter, Seattle Seahawks Daryn Colledge, Miami Dolphins Willie Colon, New York Jets Dan Connolly, New England Patriots Vladimir Ducasse, Minnesota Vikings Orlando Franklin, Denver Broncos Mike Iupati, San Francisco 49ers John Jerry, New York Giants Charlie Johnson, Minnesota Vikings Mike Johnson, Atlanta Falcons Davin Joseph, St. Louis Rams Mike McGlynn, Kansas City Chiefs Erik Pears, Buffalo Bills Will Rackley, Baltimore Ravens Jah Reid, Baltimore Ravens Rob Sims, Detroit Lions We can get that Pears guy cheap. And I hear he can play RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 This blows up LMO's story that they would cut EJ. That made no sense anyhow. They still have to pay him so why not give him a shot to compete? Even if they bring in 3 more QB's I still want to see EJ compete with them and let the best man winmassare later tweeted that he was laughed at when he asked if EJ was on the chopping block. One of his followers requested that he ask about it. No it wasn't me. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 What else have the God's told Massare? Sorry just got done watching a few episodes of The Vikings new season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Like what I'm reading in general. I think the Bills are heading in the right direction and making good decisions in general. QB is tough, since no sure things are available for us. Which, again, is why I support developing the youngest of the mediocre pile. Everything else looks good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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