Optometric Insight Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 PNC Park is heaven on earth. I wish we could emulate that somehow. isn't it? What makes PNC Park is the view so unless they jazz up the skyway or get some fancy new buildings for the Buffalo Skyline it'll be tough to come close. Too bad the falls is out, because that would have been a beauty of a stadium/view combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 isn't it? What makes PNC Park is the view so unless they jazz up the skyway or get some fancy new buildings for the Buffalo Skyline it'll be tough to come close. Too bad the falls is out, because that would have been a beauty of a stadium/view combo. I always find the thought there is land in NF, next to the falls to be ridiculous. There is a state park, it's going nowhere despite it self. Most often land mentioned was behind the Casino. The only pictures would still be the canned footage we see when the Bills play in OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 It would be cool if they find a way to rip out that damn skyway when they start work on a new stadium. Â Pipe dream, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) http://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/news/2014/12/08/pegulas-open-up-about-vision-for-one-buffalo.html?page=2   And here, snug between the arena and the ballpark …Here is where Benson stopped drawing, tapping his pen to a blank spot and looking up. "If the stadium is right here," said the confidant whom Terry Pegula dispatched to Buffalo to help execute his vision, not so much for the team as for the city, "then you can tie all of that together under the theory that as those assets are developed, other people will come invest. I would assume that is the parking areas to the east of the Harbor Center? Edited January 19, 2015 by May Day 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 isn't it? What makes PNC Park is the view so unless they jazz up the skyway or get some fancy new buildings for the Buffalo Skyline it'll be tough to come close. Too bad the falls is out, because that would have been a beauty of a stadium/view combo. Â It's one of my favorite places in the world. That view from the third base side as sun sets is the best! Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 looks like the city already owns most of the land at the south park site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumblefish Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Play the games in a parking lot, after all , that's what bullies do, don't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) Watch and see it will end up like the Minnesota Vikings Dome. No tailgating, hugely expensive parking and long walks to get the stadium. that's the tradeoff for a downtown stadium.. do you want the stadium in the city or not? If the city, the whole tailgating on the grass thing goes away and you get real NFL prices.. gotta give something to get something. I say delay the stadium as long as possible. the ralph is totally unique Edited January 19, 2015 by 8and8Forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I like the one down on Ohio street. That area could probably handle traffic and parking the best and have a nice background with the lake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerbroker Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 An open air stadium on the leeward side of Lake Erie? Design would need some big wind screens, RWS is four miles inland...I think it needs a lid on it. Of the 135 million dollar refresh on RWS the State and County put up 95 million of it. I don't know if they want to talk about putting a shovel in the ground for a new stadium at this point. I just hope a new stadium doesn't come with $2000.00 dollar PSL's and huge increases in ticket prices that keeps the average fan from being able to afford it. Enjoy The Ralph while you can, because a new stadium will come with a different game day experience and possibly the loss of the 12th man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 that's the tradeoff for a downtown stadium.. do you want the stadium in the city or not? If the city, the whole tailgating on the grass thing goes away and you get real NFL prices.. gotta give something to get something. I say delay the stadium as long as possible. the ralph is totally unique My unbiased opinion is save a half billion dollars and retro the Ralph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Related topic. Thoughts? Â http://www.ubbullrun.com/2015/1/19/7834685/buffalo-bills-new-stadium-could-be-a-boon-for-university-at-buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) Related topic. Thoughts?  http://www.ubbullrun.com/2015/1/19/7834685/buffalo-bills-new-stadium-could-be-a-boon-for-university-at-buffalo  There are a lot of things in there I disagree with and I think a lot of his/her numbers aren't well calculated...   But as far as the UB stuff. You have to wonder what the future holds for that program. They would make a great Pitt-like tenant if they could get into a better conference. I do not think the American or Big10 would scoff at the WNY media market. I would also think this "One Buffalo" thing would love a higher profile NCAA Football program to have in the fold, especially if they play Penn State.  The big question is will people support it and come out? Watch on TV? Its questionable. Certainly not with the existing stadium. That place makes football unwatchable. I like the MAC and cant stomach it. I also dont think the Bills having inaccessible pricing (if it happens to that degree) would trickle common fans to the Bulls. It would have to be a much bigger reason than just that, and Im not sure if Buffalo would support NCAA football... (I certainly would). The Leafs are really expensive... but you see the Marlies struggle with attendance as well as the OHL teams there (one just skipped town for North Bay).  I wonder if they would do a dry run or 2 at a new facility. Like a neutral site game between Penn State and Syracuse or something of that sort to gauge how people would receive "real" NCAA football. Edited January 20, 2015 by May Day 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 My unbiased opinion is save a half billion dollars and retro the Ralph. no argument there.. agree 100 per-cent.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Can we please get this locked in so I can quit my job, move back to Buffalo and open a little spot downtown for my "retirement"? Â Exciting times for Buffalo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) My unbiased opinion is save a half billion dollars and retro the Ralph. Â Â that would be a complete waste of an opportunity to improve economic development in the city. Â There is close to zero economic development around the Ralph and that is after 40 years. Â Not moving the stadium to the city would just be a real bone headed decision. The economic development that will occur around the stadium will do more for the city and state then going cheap and keeping it in Orchard Park Edited January 20, 2015 by ddaryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 You are going to see a different tailgating experience. There will still be some traditional tailgating but it will be more bars and restaurants. It will be similar to a Cleveland. I fear the days of fires in garbage cans are coming to an end. This makes me sad. As an out of town season ticket holder I would potentially attend less games if that was the case. I don't want a hockey game atmosphere, I want tailgating. I want to bring my own beer and cook my own food an potentially stay over in my RV if I choose. I understand the NFL is changing and if that's going to be the price of keeping the Bills in town, so be it. I just hope the Pegulas come up with some kind of "best of both worlds" type scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 This makes me sad. As an out of town season ticket holder I would potentially attend less games if that was the case. I don't want a hockey game atmosphere, I want tailgating. I want to bring my own beer and cook my own food an potentially stay over in my RV if I choose. I understand the NFL is changing and if that's going to be the price of keeping the Bills in town, so be it. I just hope the Pegulas come up with some kind of "best of both worlds" type scenario.I would think that the RV tradition will stay. I would be shocked though if the Bills didn't try to regulate the pregame alcohol intake and get a larger cut of that $. It seems to kill 2 birds with one stone and I would be really, really surprised if that isn't what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I have always been on the side of putting it in the Perry St Projects. I think that the South Park proposal is the winner of the four suggestions by far. You still get to knock those crappy buildings down. And of the four sites the most red dots labelled potential development are on that site :-) I believe if we're doing this and it will carry an economic impact, that site wins by a mile. Oh and it may be the only one downtown that could accommodate some tailgating and some rv lots if it's done right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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