NoSaint Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) Espn reporting just now on TV that the rift started on draft day. Schefter says he's received accounts ranging from walked out of to stormed out of the room when the trade happened Edited January 4, 2015 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Just saw that. No doubt it's counter-spin by Team Marrone to rehabilitate his reputation a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Just saw that. No doubt it's counter-spin by Team Marrone to rehabilitate his reputation a bit. Because it couldn't be true or..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) So they didn't tell him beforehand they were going to trade up? That is crazy. It was reported for weeks that the Bills were looking to move up for a WR. What did he think they would need to give up for Sammy, a bag of footballs? Just seems nuts he wouldn't have known. Edited January 4, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAWNDO Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Just saw that. No doubt it's counter-spin by Team Marrone to rehabilitate his reputation a bit. Â This was my thought after especially after the article in the New York Daily News yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 There might be some truth- Â It seemed whaley wanted perimeter playmakers and somewhere between his hire and year 2 marrone got very conservative. 3 TE sets, and such. Maybe he was big into Ebron? Â Something like this would match KTDs sentiments that whaley was frustrated that marrone took a left turn in philosophy without including the rest of the organization Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I thought there were cameras in the draft room. I recall watching the footage. Would like to go back now and see marrone in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 There might be some truth-  It seemed whaley wanted perimeter playmakers and somewhere between his hire and year 2 marrone got very conservative. 3 TE sets, and such. Maybe he was big into Ebron?  Something like this would match KTDs sentiments that whaley was frustrated that marrone took a left turn in philosophy without including the rest of the organization  "Why do you keep handing me skill position players when I want plodders and maulers?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 So they didn't tell him beforehand they were going to trade up? That is crazy. It was reported for weeks that the Bills were looking to move up for a WR. What did he think they would need to give up for Sammy, a bag of footballs? Just seems nuts he wouldn't have known. Possible he knew and didn't want it, and was upset when it went through? Not hard to reconcile the story to what happened- but doesn't make it true either, obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Because it couldn't be true or..? There's video of the event. No storming out, all smiles and handshakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 He was probably scared because he had no idea how to use him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananathumb Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The only tantrum of Marrone's that I support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Poor baby. Whaley was trying to help Marrone fix his woeful offense and that's the thanks he gets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 I thought there were cameras in the draft room. I recall watching the footage. Would like to go back now and see marrone in there. I'd be curious too- I didn't recall any sentiment like this at the time but maybe I wasn't looking for it? And clearky the team wouldn't show his displeasure but I'd be curious whether he was in on the happiness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 There's video of the event. No storming out, all smiles and handshakes. Very possibly staged. It wouldn't be the first draft day "event" that was planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I do remember a report that he didn't support the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Very possibly staged. It wouldn't be the first draft day "event" that was planned. Â Definitely. If you look closely, it's the same set as the one they used for the lunar landing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I saw the Schefter report too. If true, the rift between Whaley and Marrone started over the trade, then I am glad he is gone. Marrone has come across since the end of the season as petty, thin skinned and a bit of a diva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The actual Draft Day movie pales in comparison to the drama at OBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) http://prod.images.bills.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/BILLS/assets/images/imported/BUF/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempCM6_6476--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=620&height=465"]http://prod.images.bills.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/BILLS/assets/images/imported/BUF/photos/clubimages/2014/05-May/tempCM6_6476--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.JPG?width=620&height=465 Â Â Is this the moment? Greggy- get us the video! Edited January 4, 2015 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Very possibly staged. It wouldn't be the first draft day "event" that was planned. Yes tinfoilhatter they staged the draft room reactions. Â She's not coming back. Â Time to join eharmony or tinder and get back on that horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Marrone isn't shown in the smiles and clapping part of the trade video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 My conspiracy theory of that being why he never threw to him has life! He wanted to make the trade look bad so he could seize control over personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The only shot of Marrone seems early in the video, and he is moping around. Maybe there is some truth to this: Â http://www.buffalobills.com/video/videos/Bills-Focus-Inside-Buffalos-Draft-Room/b37321a3-5a95-4c80-b662-46ed9aa57696 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 This is BS. I clearly remember the interviews with Sammy after the draft. They would ask him if he had any idea that the bills would go up and get him. His response was that he had an idea after a pre draft meeting with Marrone. Sammy said Marrone had a big grin like he knew something and kept asking him if he wanted to be a bill. Â Clearly just spin and damage control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I think it is probably more that he didn't want to give up the 1st than that he didn't want Sammy. The Browns later said that they were only going to trade the pick if they got a 2015 1st, and other teams were calling them right before the pick. It's possible that DM thought they were giving up less but DW pulled the trigger on the 1st and that's what caused the tantrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Watching the video a bit more, it is interesting that Marrone isn't sitting at the table. Seems to be Whaley and Monos mostly calling the shots-- and Russ and Overdorf are working the phones. Â Marrone is nowhere in sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Watching the video a bit more, it is interesting that Marrone isn't sitting at the table. Seems to be Whaley and Monos mostly calling the shots-- and Russ and Overdorf are working the phones. Â Marrone is nowhere in sight. He was working with the OL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 He was working with the OL Â haha. I did see him writing some notes down. I think it was notes on how to maximize Lee Smith's playing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 He was working with the OL lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Yes tinfoilhatter they staged the draft room reactions. Â She's not coming back. Â Time to join eharmony or tinder and get back on that horse. Quite the contrary, if Marrone hated the Sammy trade, I'm all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I think it is probably more that he didn't want to give up the 1st than that he didn't want Sammy. The Browns later said that they were only going to trade the pick if they got a 2015 1st, and other teams were calling them right before the pick. It's possible that DM thought they were giving up less but DW pulled the trigger on the 1st and that's what caused the tantrum. He knew what the parameters of the trade were. The Bills were calling every team from the top of the draft down. He knew it was two number ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Monos was loving that Kujo pick! Ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Why would he be pissed at trading away next year's number one. He knew he was leaving before next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Espn reporting just now on TV that the rift started on draft day. Schefter says he's received accounts ranging from walked out of to stormed out of the room when the trade happened Maybe Marrone (or whomever) wanted Bridgewater or Carr, both of whom had excellent seasons on **** teams. Teams worse than ours. Â Bridgewater's last 9 games were very good. Â Think about it, we could have finagled a trade down that would have netted us Bridgewater or Carr and Benjamin or Beckum given what we did. Â The problem with this place is that everyone gets angry emotionally and blames the people that have left instead of the people that remain. The shittiest part of this team, its biggest problems, are still firmly in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I think Marrone was talking to Polian on the phone. Polian on record as saying he wouldn't have made the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) Â "Why do you keep handing me skill position players when I want plodders and maulers?" Is it that hard to believe Marrone thought the price was too high? I do. Could be he also had a pretty good idea about the QB situation and wanted the 2015 #1 to try and deal with that. I don't know any more than you. But it seems a lot more plausible than silly "damage control" spin. I very seriously doubt Marrone cares much about what the Bills fans think about the situation. Edited January 4, 2015 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Just saw that. No doubt it's counter-spin by Team Marrone to rehabilitate his reputation a bit. Team Marrone reacts politically second only to the Clinton Administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I thought there were cameras in the draft room. I recall watching the footage. Would like to go back now and see marrone in there. It was very noticeable that he was NOT there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I think Marrone was talking to Polian on the phone. Polian on record as saying he wouldn't have made the trade.He is also on record he would not have drafted EJ at 16 the previous year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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