Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 OK, don't do it Pegula. Low move by Marrone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 OK, don't do it Pegula. Low move by Marrone. What move? What did I miss. All I see is wild speculation. Nothing whatsoever from Marrone or The Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davspo Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Does anyone see losing Marone as a real loss. This offense has regressed a lot under his brief tenure. You could actually see it getting worse by the game. The offensive line (his specialty area) was atrocious. Despite getting new receiving weapons and a multitude of free agents and draft picks along the o line, things got worse. Despite the acquisitions of Dixon and Brown, the running game got worse. Is all this on DW- i think not. As has been discussed for years, this starts from the top down. The Bills have a history of putting no money into their front office and coaches. This is the end result. The sooner Pagula realizes this the better. It will be a long term thing, but you need to start somewhere. I would not have an issue keeping DW, but Marrone has shown he is outclassed. At an absolute minimum, Hackett needs to go. I really can't believe he has not been canned yet. I am reasonably convinced most people who post on this board can do a better job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 OK, don't do it Pegula. Low move by Marrone. What low move? What if the new owner was a douche or Bon Jovi (another level of douche, not in the dictionary)? This tells me he is a smart business man or hired someone smart to run his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Does anyone see losing Marone as a real loss. This offense has regressed a lot under his brief tenure. You could actually see it getting worse by the game. The offensive line (his specialty area) was atrocious. Despite getting new receiving weapons and a multitude of free agents and draft picks along the o line, things got worse. Despite the acquisitions of Dixon and Brown, the running game got worse. Is all this on DW- i think not. As has been discussed for years, this starts from the top down. The Bills have a history of putting no money into their front office and coaches. This is the end result. The sooner Pagula realizes this the better. It will be a long term thing, but you need to start somewhere. I would not have an issue keeping DW, but Marrone has shown he is outclassed. At an absolute minimum, Hackett needs to go. I really can't believe he has not been canned yet. I am reasonably convinced most people who post on this board can do a better job. who are you going to replace him with? What great innovative offensive guy with experience is going to take a job with a team without a QB when there are 4 jobs open that have one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eme123 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Gotta love unnamed sources on a slow news day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I hope he stays, but wouldn't be shocked if he left. Remember Cornelius Bennett. Here today, gone tomorrow. Albert Pujols left the Cardinals and a perfect situation.....for money. LeBron left Cleveland for fame and glory. Things happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I hope he stays, but wouldn't be shocked if he left. Remember Cornelius Bennett. Here today, gone tomorrow. Albert Pujols left the Cardinals and a perfect situation.....for money. LeBron left Cleveland for fame and glory. Things happen. Far different for players than coaches, let alone for elite ones. There are over 2,000 roster spots in the NFL, so when an elite player leaves, he's leaving because he knows he's got another job available. There are 32 NFL jobs, and only 5 of them are open at the moment. Marrone would be competing for one of those 5 jobs, and would have the stigma of being a guy that just left his previous employer high and dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I hope he stays, but wouldn't be shocked if he left. Remember Cornelius Bennett. Here today, gone tomorrow. Albert Pujols left the Cardinals and a perfect situation.....for money. LeBron left Cleveland for fame and glory. Things happen. Is this one of those "Which name doesn't belong with the others" problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Gotta love unnamed sources on a slow news day Really. Over-reactions to wild speculation. Even if he is trying to get a contract extension, or salary boost, why is that a "low move". This clause was built-in to his contract, likely specifically for this situation. Since when do we consider someone exercising a legitimate option a "low move"? I know many don't like unscheduled demands for contract renegotiation, but this one is built right into his deal. Nothing to get worked up about. Seems to me it's being handled very low-key and in-house. That's about the best you can expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 What low move? What if the new owner was a douche or Bon Jovi (another level of douche, not in the dictionary)? This tells me he is a smart business man or hired someone smart to run his career. smart business? No. He benched our future so he could get more money. He didn't make the playoffs, and still decides to use his out to get an extension. It's becoming clear. That's why he played Orton in a meaningless game. I bet his agent is pushing 9 wins hard also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 smart business? No. He benched our future so he could get more money. He didn't make the playoffs, and still decides to use his out to get an extension. It's becoming clear. That's why he played Orton in a meaningless game. I bet his agent is pushing 9 wins hard also. Okay ... so how's that not smart? You just described an ingenious chain of events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) Far different for players than coaches, let alone for elite ones. There are over 2,000 roster spots in the NFL, so when an elite player leaves, he's leaving because he knows he's got another job available. There are 32 NFL jobs, and only 5 of them are open at the moment. Marrone would be competing for one of those 5 jobs, and would have the stigma of being a guy that just left his previous employer high and dry. agreed. though i think the last quote that coaches are telling they media they arent sure yet speaks to some sort of chatter behind the scenes, for whatever purposes it would accomplish (keeping his OC, getting a bit more money/security/power, or genuinely seeing if his phone rings despite it being against the rules) Really. Over-reactions to wild speculation. Even if he is trying to get a contract extension, or salary boost, why is that a "low move". This clause was built-in to his contract, likely specifically for this situation. Since when do we consider someone exercising a legitimate option a "low move"? I know many don't like unscheduled demands for contract renegotiation, but this one is built right into his deal. Nothing to get worked up about. Seems to me it's being handled very low-key and in-house. That's about the best you can expect. ill agree there.... you play the cards you have, and its his job here. he should be pushing for the best situation possible for himself and his family (as long as reasonable). Edited December 31, 2014 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) smart business? No. He benched our future so he could get more money. He didn't make the playoffs, and still decides to use his out to get an extension. It's becoming clear. That's why he played Orton in a meaningless game. I bet his agent is pushing 9 wins hard also. benched our future so he could get more money? First of all, if that is "our future" then he sure as heck deserves more money. And don't forget there are 52 other players and all of the staff who want to win games, as well as the fan base. His job is to win games. Why is he being slammed for wanting to win games? I swear some of you would rather go 0-16 but go for it on every 4th down and play a bad QB so the coach is fired because you agree with that philosophy; think the way he achieved his winning record isn't the way you would have done it. Edited December 31, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davspo Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 who are you going to replace him with? What great innovative offensive guy with experience is going to take a job with a team without a QB when there are 4 jobs open that have one? I agree that you would have to find someone. Usually, this involves opening the checkbook- something Ralph never did on coaches or front offices. There is no simple fix here. The lack of a front office and coaches is a problem that was years in the making. As opposed to getting a retread or another "marrone" you may have to be patient and wait. If Marrone decides to go they we have no choice but to find the best available now. If the right person isn't there then Marrone stays. For me- I have seen enough of him to realize he is not going to take us to the top of the mountain. Maybe with a new OC, he proves me wrong. I would be fine with being proven wrong!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) who are you going to replace him with? What great innovative offensive guy with experience is going to take a job with a team without a QB when there are 4 jobs open that have one? I'll wager you can find somebody better than Hackett even under the conditions you cite. For one, we have an owner who doesn't appear to be concerned or afraid to spend money to get what he wants. And Marrone will never fire Hackett no matter how putrid the Bills offense is because of his personal relationship. Its inhibiting his ability to evaluate the performance of his OC and to perform one of the functions of the HC. In business, that's a problem where there are clear performance issues and I think we can all agree the Bills offense has performed poorly for many reasons. One is the lack of an experienced and NFL competent OC... Edited December 31, 2014 by All_Pro_Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 smart business? No. He benched our future so he could get more money. He didn't make the playoffs, and still decides to use his out to get an extension. It's becoming clear. That's why he played Orton in a meaningless game. I bet his agent is pushing 9 wins hard also. Seriously? Do you HONESTLY believe this? Or are you in some sort of dumb post competition with Kellyto83? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 benched our future so he could get more money? First of all, if that is "our future" then he sure as heck deserves more money. And don't forget there are 52 other players and all of the staff who want to win games, as well as the fan base. His job is to win games. Why is he being slammed for wanting to win games? I swear some of you would rather go 0-16 but go for it on every 4th down and play a bad QB so the coach is fired because you agree with that philosophy; think the way he achieved his winning record isn't the way you would have done it. I agree with this wholeheartedly! Seriously? Do you HONESTLY believe this? Or are you in some sort of dumb post competition with Kellyto83? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Really. Over-reactions to wild speculation. Even if he is trying to get a contract extension, or salary boost, why is that a "low move". This clause was built-in to his contract, likely specifically for this situation. Since when do we consider someone exercising a legitimate option a "low move"? I know many don't like unscheduled demands for contract renegotiation, but this one is built right into his deal. Nothing to get worked up about. Seems to me it's being handled very low-key and in-house. That's about the best you can expect. I agree with that. If anything, I would see this as an attempt by Marrone to get a few years added to his contract. I'm sure he's thinking that he's heading into the final year of his contract without an answer at QB, so the chances of the team regressing next year are not insignificant. If I were him, I wouldn't want to have to make a case for an extension after next season, knowing I don't have a serviceable QB on the roster going into the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) Seriously? Do you HONESTLY believe this? Or are you in some sort of dumb post competition with Kellyto83? Belive that Marrone played Orton in the final game because 9 wins helps him get an extension, yes. Edited December 31, 2014 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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