Dragonborn10 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Wilson is above average QB on a team with the best defense in the NFL, the best home-field advantage, and the most determined RB in the game. Most every pass play is play action. I would put 8 in the box and dare him to throw to one of the worst WR units in the NFL. Luck has no running game and no defense. His OC is five downgrades from Bruce Arians and Pagano would be fired if he did not battle and survive cancer. Both would make the Bills an 11 or 12 win team with this defense. Luck and an experienced Sammy might be a 13 win team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Wilson is above average QB on a team with the best defense in the NFL, the best home-field advantage, and the most determined RB in the game. Most every pass play is play action. I would put 8 in the box and dare him to throw to one of the worst WR units in the NFL. Luck has no running game and no defense. His OC is five downgrades from Bruce Arians and Pagano would be fired if he did not battle and survive cancer. Both would make the Bills an 11 or 12 win team with this defense. Luck and an experienced Sammy might be a 13 win team. Agreed Pagano is awful. Colts are always the sane team: soft, poorly coached, rely totally on the QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 All things being equal Luck is a better QB so I take him. As I feel Luck would have the same success Wilson has had in Seattle if he was part of that team or arguably more whereas I don't think Wilson bring the same success he's had in Indy. Yet that's why they say the draft doesn't end after Round 1 because what makes Wilson so valuable is he wasn't a 1st Round pick for the Seahawks which let them get better defensive players in the picks before getting Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 wilson needs a strong running game. We don't have one. Luck has no OL or running game. Nor does he have a defense. Put him On the bills and he makes all the throws Orton doesn't plus has mobility. It was abundantly clear yesterday that Luck needs a strong running game. One is always in the bottom 3 of average passing yards a game for each season......that's a game manager not a franchise QB So Wilson is not franchise QB? Wow. Crayonz indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 discuss.. tough call, go to go with Luck if he had Wilson's run game and defense he would be lights out. Not like Wilson. I've never seen someone move like Wilson does to extend the play. Really?! how about every mobile QB, but Wilson can actually make passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Really?! how about every mobile QB, but Wilson can actually make passes. I was referring to how he extends plays in the backfield and completes passes, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Agreed Pagano is awful. Colts are always the sane team: soft, poorly coached, rely totally on the QB Should have kept Arians I was referring to how he extends plays in the backfield and completes passes, yes. I see, I read it as he was more mobile than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I voted Wilson, only because he should have been here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Just remeberwe never had a chance for Luck but could have taken Wilsn versus that speedster from NC State, I still think buddy screwed this one when he said take that no state guy and forgot tat Wilson played his last year at Wisconsin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I would take Ralph Wilson over Andrew Luck. Russell is a no brainer. OK I'm kidding a little about the Ralph part but Luck does not need a running game or a defense really. He needs the hype game and that is what he has. His record stinks out loud and if he were in a tough division we'd be at the "What's wrong with Andrew Luck" stage of the media meltdown, soon to be followed by the "Why are Luck and Griffin both busts" finale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Nice topic Weo!! I never thought that I'd say it but it's Wilson for me. He takes better care of the football. Luck has prototypical tools but Wilson has a little better command I think. You would be thrilled to have either of them but for me it's RW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Have to give the Seahawks credit for finding this superbowl formula. Load up on d and put in an low cost QB who is able to make yards consistently in unconventional ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 With what we have I'd take their wives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 They're actually very similar players. Excellent athletes, natural passers, good leaders, playing behind atrocious OLs, etc. I default to Luck for 2 reasons: 1. Size. He's such a good athlete that it gets lost how huge he is...6'4" 245 lbs. I think that'll make him more durable in the long run. 2. I find it amazing how well he's played without the benefit of (a) great coaching (except for his rookie season with Arians), (b) any type of running game, and © zero defense to give him the benefit of shortened fields like Wilson does. Tougher choice than if have thought though...good thread WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) I think one reason Luck has so many turnovers is that Indy runs a very aggressive offense (which is not what Pep Hamilton ran at Stanford, but he has had to change due to lack of run game and D.) Luck is asked to, and forced to, take a ton of chances and carry his team nearly every week. It's pretty much the other end of the spectrum from Wilson, though he is a fine QB in his own right. For the way our team is currently structured I would give Luck a better chance of winning here due to what we have seen from both this far. Edited December 23, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Wilson is above average QB on a team with the best defense in the NFL, the best home-field advantage, and the most determined RB in the game. Most every pass play is play action. I would put 8 in the box and dare him to throw to one of the worst WR units in the NFL. Luck has no running game and no defense. His OC is five downgrades from Bruce Arians and Pagano would be fired if he did not battle and survive cancer. This. When Russell Wilson actually has to carry a team with his abilities, then this will be a discussion. I do not know if he will be able to or not, because, up until this point he hasn't had to. Until then, IMO, Luck is hands down the better quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I would have ran to the podium and drafted Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Luck by a mile. The Colts have a fraction of the talent around him that Seattle has for Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 My answer is either over the steaming pile of dung the Bills have now at that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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