Captain Hindsight Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I'm finishing up my masters degree in a few months and yesterday I got my first phone call from a recruiter at a company in St. Paul Minnesota. We talked for a bit and the he asked me a few questions but I had no idea how to answer what my expected salary should be. I've done a few google searches but can find a good way to estimate it. I've never worked outside of the intern/ cashier role so I didn't even know where to begin. Any tips from my fellow Bills fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I usually keep it simple...a pint at my local tavern is $5, if i have 3-4 pints a couple times a week that comes to $40 a week for beer expenses...multiply that by 52 and that is the minimum salary i accept...sometimes i add about $20/week for hoagies or wings or pudding, depending on how much i think i will like the job....hope that helps. I'm finishing up my masters degree in a few months and yesterday I got my first phone call from a recruiter at a company in St. Paul Minnesota. We talked for a bit and the he asked me a few questions but I had no idea how to answer what my expected salary should be. I've done a few google searches but can find a good way to estimate it. I've never worked outside of the intern/ cashier role so I didn't even know where to begin. Any tips from my fellow Bills fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 What is your Master's degree in?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I'm finishing up my masters degree in a few months and yesterday I got my first phone call from a recruiter at a company in St. Paul Minnesota. We talked for a bit and the he asked me a few questions but I had no idea how to answer what my expected salary should be. I've done a few google searches but can find a good way to estimate it. I've never worked outside of the intern/ cashier role so I didn't even know where to begin. Any tips from my fellow Bills fans? Congrats on the Masters degree. I remember being asked the same question in my interview for my first real job outside of academia (and bartending). It can be a real head-scratcher. In general, I tend to think that you can't really price yourself out of consideration. If you ask for way too much, they will just offer you less. But for your fist job, I understand you want to seem as though you have a clue. "$500,00 a year. And you're lucky to have me," Of course, you certainly don't want to ask for too little So, this is where the question gets into specifics. If you have had no luck with Google, then it must be a pretty unique kind of job. So you might get better information, if you share some of the details of that first job. If you don't care to do that, I don't blame you. But you will get fairly generic answers, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Congrats on the Masters. I'm surprised you can't find some basic info on the web, there are a number of good salary sites. Help us out with some info on your location, degree, experience, etc. and I'm sure OTW can accurately peg your market value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I'm finishing up my masters degree in a few months and yesterday I got my first phone call from a recruiter at a company in St. Paul Minnesota. We talked for a bit and the he asked me a few questions but I had no idea how to answer what my expected salary should be. I've done a few google searches but can find a good way to estimate it. I've never worked outside of the intern/ cashier role so I didn't even know where to begin. Any tips from my fellow Bills fans? Doesn't your school have a placement office that would have info like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanners Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Check out glassdoor.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) Doesn't your school have a placement office that would have info like that? Not something I thought of but I can ask As to my degree is called Sustainable Systems here is the link http://www.rit.edu/gis/academics/ms-sustainability/ I also have my LEED AP in BD+C. It's a green building certificate. I'm sure that's what got me the phone call yesterday The position title was a Sustainability Specialist at an engineering firm. My friends have told me as low as 50 and as high as 80 I told him I just wanted to compensated fairly for my education and certifications. Edited September 3, 2014 by Captain Hindsight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 yes ... glassdoor.com and salary.com Try both and come up with a 10K range. In my first round corporate HR phone interview, the salary question came up less than 3 minutes into the call. I gave a 10K range based on my research (glassdoor and salary.com). In my second round HR phone interview, I was told that my range was "in their sweetspot," and the position's salary would likely end up in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) Doesn't your school have a placement office that would have info like that? If they did and could answer the question, how would we all know about it? Congrats Cap't! Edited September 3, 2014 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Not something I thought of but I can ask As to my degree is called Sustainable Systems here is the link http://www.rit.edu/g...sustainability/ I also have my LEED AP in BD+C. It's a green building certificate. I'm sure that's what got me the phone call yesterday The position title was a Sustainability Specialist at an engineering firm. My friends have told me as low as 50 and as high as 80 I told him I just wanted to compensated fairly for my education and certifications. yes ... glassdoor.com and salary.com Try both and come up with a 10K range. In my first round corporate HR phone interview, the salary question came up less than 3 minutes into the call. I gave a 10K range based on my research (glassdoor and salary.com). In my second round HR phone interview, I was told that my range was "in their sweetspot," and the position's salary would likely end up in the middle. I think a 10K range is about right for a ballpark salary requirement, asked WAY too early in an employment conversation, IMO. Like I said, unless you sound clueless about what the job normally pays (you don't seem to be clueless) you should be fine. Early in my career, I named a salary and got an immediate "fine". I still think I should have said something higher. Later in my career, I would name a number and then they would counter offer, and we would negotiate from there. Never had a prospective employer say, "That's more than we were budgeting, thank you for your interest. Good Bye." But seriously, you will make your money so it shouldn't be an issue for your first job. Don't let the salary question throw you too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I think a 10K range is about right for a ballpark salary requirement, asked WAY too early in an employment conversation, IMO. Like I said, unless you sound clueless about what the job normally pays (you don't seem to be clueless) you should be fine. Early in my career, I named a salary and got an immediate "fine". I still think I should have said something higher. Later in my career, I would name a number and then they would counter offer, and we would negotiate from there. Never had a prospective employer say, "That's more than we were budgeting, thank you for your interest. Good Bye." But seriously, you will make your money so it shouldn't be an issue for your first job. Don't let the salary question throw you too much. I just started a new job in August and originally when I gave my salary requirement, my now boss chuckled a bit and told me "yeah, we can do better than that". They wound up giving me $10k more than my number. I wish all of these conversations went that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I think a 10K range is about right for a ballpark salary requirement, asked WAY too early in an employment conversation, IMO. Like I said, unless you sound clueless about what the job normally pays (you don't seem to be clueless) you should be fine. Early in my career, I named a salary and got an immediate "fine". I still think I should have said something higher. Later in my career, I would name a number and then they would counter offer, and we would negotiate from there. Never had a prospective employer say, "That's more than we were budgeting, thank you for your interest. Good Bye." But seriously, you will make your money so it shouldn't be an issue for your first job. Don't let the salary question throw you too much. And if they do have a hard cap, they will usually make that known so they don't end up wasting their time. Any job we hire for always has some flexibility on salary. A smart employer knows that it's better to pay an extra 20% to get the right person than go on the cheap and get the wrong one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Answer: "I'm not interested in talking salary right now. I need to make sure this is the right move for me professionally first. I'm confident if I am the right fit, that I will be compensated appropriately." Hold your ground. Insist it will work out. When they make their offer, pause if given verbally, then ask for 10% above that because she will have given you a mid-range quote for what they will pay. I did this when I got hired at Agilent and the HR person told me after it was all done, I was the best negotiator she ever tried to hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Answer: "I'm not interested in talking salary right now. I need to make sure this is the right move for me professionally first. I'm confident if I am the right fit, that I will be compensated appropriately." Hold your ground. Insist it will work out. When they make their offer, pause if given verbally, then ask for 10% above that because she will have given you a mid-range quote for what they will pay. I did this when I got hired at Agilent and the HR person told me after it was all done, I was the best negotiator she ever tried to hire. This can definitely work to get you the best $, but it can also backfire. I work at a big company and we have guidelines for salary that are pretty set in stone. My old boss would not take the time to interview someone until it was confirmed that the salary would work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) Just know that a lot of these "recruiters" are just looking for names to submit hoping that they get lucky. When asked a salary your answer has to be That will depend on the location, "full time" or contract. example - Rochester $60K vs DC $90K Rochester "full time" $60K, contract $90K, DC "full time" $90K, contract $120K, Edited September 3, 2014 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Answer: "I'm not interested in talking salary right now. I need to make sure this is the right move for me professionally first. I'm confident if I am the right fit, that I will be compensated appropriately." Hold your ground. Insist it will work out. When they make their offer, pause if given verbally, then ask for 10% above that because she will have given you a mid-range quote for what they will pay. I did this when I got hired at Agilent and the HR person told me after it was all done, I was the best negotiator she ever tried to hire. We have a winner!! But, do your research and have your number in mind so if they come back with some low ball offer you can counter or walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 yes ... glassdoor.com and salary.com Try both and come up with a 10K range. In my first round corporate HR phone interview, the salary question came up less than 3 minutes into the call. I gave a 10K range based on my research (glassdoor and salary.com). In my second round HR phone interview, I was told that my range was "in their sweetspot," and the position's salary would likely end up in the middle. How is the retirement home stripper circuit treating you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 i know this if is Honeywell or 3M both headquartered there. They will make the salary offer to you. Not the opposite. With 3M my wife at the time said the salary offer is competitive but no way would She live in St.Paul. She needed to work in the bay area in California and they obliged, at a satellite plant . If you are at the top of your class you have Pull. Probably not much in the salary department though. Although these HUGE corps if they want you will Offer very competitive starting salary's. if by chance it is one of the above corps I am sure they are not only paying your airfare, car and hotel but they will wine and dine you big time depending on your discipline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in Pasadena Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 But for your fist job, I understand you want to seem as though you have a clue. Damn, you really are Love Corn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts