SageAgainstTheMachine Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 I don't think this is necessarily a good thing, but remember that Jauron and Gailey were players' coaches held in very high esteem. Look at where that got us. It doesn't really bother me to see tempers flaring, and it sounds as though Marrone reacted appropriately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmasThoman Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 How much of this is a product of bringing in Jim Schwartz? When he was with Tennessee, the Titans' defensive players were notorious for a) getting into vicious fights in camp; and b) playing some of the dirtiest defense in the league. That continued with the Lions too. Haynesworth was a borderline psychopath during camps and preseason, if I recall correctly, and Suh's actions speak for themselves. Bear in mind that the dirtiest DB in the league, Cortland Finnegan, came through that system too. His first season was in 2006 with the Titans. yeah i remember before 2009, when we fired avp from his oc job, there were many who thought "that would solve everything", and it was a step in the right direction for the season. it's over man... it's over. it's not just like these guys got into a shoving match in an isolated incident. they've been fighting for weeks. marrone has been imploring them not to. they continue to fight. marrone runs them into the ground and blows up at them. hughes talks back at him. we have a lame duck coach, an offensive coordinator who can't get the ball to our best weapons, a qb who can't read the field, and a division with tom brady. let's start talking about 2015. we'll be playing the nfc east cowboys and giants at home, eagles and skins on the road and the afc south texans and colts at home, titans and jags on the road finishing last in our division should also net us games against the browns and the raiders assuming we have a new qb under center, and a good coach, that looks like a schedule that could legitimately yield a wild card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clippers of Nfl Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 hughes is trying to make the roster? he's openly disrespecting marrone in front of the entire team. 2 days in a row. bury your head in the sand all you want boys--this team is lost. is is the out of control practices that spiral into fights and public shaming on a daily basis? or our lack of ability to score points with our first team offense, in a league that basically wants teams scoring 45+ points a game? which one has you most excited for the 2014 season?!?! hughes is trying to make the roster? he's openly disrespecting marrone in front of the entire team. 2 days in a row. bury your head in the sand all you want boys--this team is lost. is is the out of control practices that spiral into fights and public shaming on a daily basis? or our lack of ability to score points with our first team offense, in a league that basically wants teams scoring 45+ points a game? which one has you most excited for the 2014 season?!?! Ok. Now I know for sure. A lost team without playing a snap that counts in the big time, when it counts.... Who's lost dude? You're really exaggerating now. If there were no fights, THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 its not the 70s anymore buddy. these guys have been pampered since little lad. the fact that hughes was making cat calls on the sideline yesterday (because they've been in pads for 3 weeks), and then had the balls to call out marrone in front of the entire team (after marrone made them do sprints to really teach them a lesson), tells me all i need to know. no one on the team respects this coaching staff. from the wet behind the ears OC who has yet to call a drive resulting in a touchdown through 3 games of preseason action with the starters, to dougie himself, of the illustrious .500 lifetime record at syracuse university and terrible in game decisions. the entire team knows hes a lame duck coach who pegula will kick to the curb for schwartz, possibly before thanksgiving. what an absolute dissaster. this could be ugly saturday night, this team might have quit before week 1. this is going to be an awful season--i just hope it's spectacularly bad so it can be blown to high hell and a true rebuild can begin. im talking bye bye russ, litmann, overdorf, whaley. EVERYONE. i made a thread awhile back saying i hope we finish 0-16. i stand by it. anyone who thinks this team has the ability to finish any better than 4-12 should take a long, hard look at what's in front of them. what an absolute embarrassment of a team. The biggest overreaction I've seen in awhile. Most people think this team is weak and timid year in and year out. It's about time we have a tough, physical team. Pampering them has not worked over the last several years. On top of that he told the team he didn't want to see any fighting and in the beginning of practice there was already scuffles breaking out. I, for one, welcome the change. Hoping your team goes 0-16? Doesn't sound like a fan to me. 19-0 BABY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 yeah i remember before 2009, when we fired avp from his oc job, there were many who thought "that would solve everything", and it was a step in the right direction for the season. it's over man... it's over. it's not just like these guys got into a shoving match in an isolated incident. they've been fighting for weeks. marrone has been imploring them not to. they continue to fight. marrone runs them into the ground and blows up at them. hughes talks back at him. we have a lame duck coach, an offensive coordinator who can't get the ball to our best weapons, a qb who can't read the field, and a division with tom brady. let's start talking about 2015. we'll be playing the nfc east cowboys and giants at home, eagles and skins on the road and the afc south texans and colts at home, titans and jags on the road finishing last in our division should also net us games against the browns and the raiders assuming we have a new qb under center, and a good coach, that looks like a schedule that could legitimately yield a wild card. I'm not sure how this works as a response to the point I was trying to make ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 If there is ANYTHING here I agree with what was hinted at in the OP. I'm willing to bet the farm these players think the offensive coaches are a joke. That when they hang out and pass the synthetic weed around they're talking about how Pettine and now Schwartz know their stuff. Why does this O keep getting worse? They're blaming the JV oc and maybe Marrone. Hughes has no other reason to complain. This franchise saved his career and bc of that he's going to be a very rich man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 What did the nattering nabobs of negativity ever do in the age before twitter and other social media microscopes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 yeah i remember before 2009, when we fired avp from his oc job, there were many who thought "that would solve everything", and it was a step in the right direction for the season. it's over man... it's over. it's not just like these guys got into a shoving match in an isolated incident. they've been fighting for weeks. marrone has been imploring them not to. they continue to fight. marrone runs them into the ground and blows up at them. hughes talks back at him. we have a lame duck coach, an offensive coordinator who can't get the ball to our best weapons, a qb who can't read the field, and a division with tom brady. let's start talking about 2015. we'll be playing the nfc east cowboys and giants at home, eagles and skins on the road and the afc south texans and colts at home, titans and jags on the road finishing last in our division should also net us games against the browns and the raiders assuming we have a new qb under center, and a good coach, that looks like a schedule that could legitimately yield a wild card. You forgot the "I'M SO F@#$ING DONE WITH THIS TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!111111111!!11!!1!!!". A goodbye thread is also a nice touch. Otherwise, top notch meltdown! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 its not the 70s anymore buddy. these guys have been pampered since little lad. the fact that hughes was making cat calls on the sideline yesterday (because they've been in pads for 3 weeks), and then had the balls to call out marrone in front of the entire team (after marrone made them do sprints to really teach them a lesson), tells me all i need to know. no one on the team respects this coaching staff. from the wet behind the ears OC who has yet to call a drive resulting in a touchdown through 3 games of preseason action with the starters, to dougie himself, of the illustrious .500 lifetime record at syracuse university and terrible in game decisions. the entire team knows hes a lame duck coach who pegula will kick to the curb for schwartz, possibly before thanksgiving. what an absolute dissaster. this could be ugly saturday night, this team might have quit before week 1. this is going to be an awful season--i just hope it's spectacularly bad so it can be blown to high hell and a true rebuild can begin. im talking bye bye russ, litmann, overdorf, whaley. EVERYONE. i made a thread awhile back saying i hope we finish 0-16. i stand by it. anyone who thinks this team has the ability to finish any better than 4-12 should take a long, hard look at what's in front of them. what an absolute embarrassment of a team. When did one person not having respect turn into the team not having respect? Stop overreacting, and damn if your post doesn't read as if you are giddy about all of this lol. It brings new light to putting the need to be right over rooting for your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Interesting.. I was going to say your post was embarrassing. it was a little over the top. I heard Joe B on radio this afternoon and he said it was a fitting way to conduct camp based on the fight yesterday. He said there was a skirmish with Goodwin and miller and then another one and Marrone went nuts. Hughes appeared to be out of line. Marrone left and talked to KW for awhile and then didn't talk to anyone for about 30 min. Then he had a private convo with Hughes and it was all good. It was the 21st practice and a lot of cranky guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 You forgot the "I'M SO F@#$ING DONE WITH THIS TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!111111111!!11!!1!!!". A goodbye thread is also a nice touch. Otherwise, top notch meltdown! When did one person not having respect turn into the team not having respect? Stop overreacting, and damn if your post doesn't read as if you are giddy about all of this lol. It brings new light to putting the need to be right over rooting for your team. BRAVO SIRS :worthy: :worthy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Can't remember things being this much of a train wreck since we fired our OC (can't even remember his name now, AVP?) before week 1 of the 09 season IIRC it was Truk Schonert that got fired and AVP took over for him. defense: lost it's 2 best players and only coordinator to have us playing good on that side of the ball since fewel Defense played well under Coach Fewell? Who knew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 @Pcarges550: After the Bills win the SB and during their episode of America's game, This practice will be talked about as the start of the Turning Point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Marrone is in over his head. seeing as we will finish 5-11 , this is his last season anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 (edited) You forgot the "I'M SO F@#$ING DONE WITH THIS TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!111111111!!11!!1!!!". A goodbye thread is also a nice touch. Otherwise, top notch meltdown! he also forgot to give us his work phone number at the van dealership Edited August 21, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 it's tough being a multi millionaire athlete. 20 days of practice in pads. The horror. maybe its time to bring in Mike Singletary and have an ice cream social with the guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtbag Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 What did the nattering nabobs of negativity ever do in the age before twitter and other social media microscopes? i can't speak for all of us, but i spent a lot more time watching friends and imitating the budweiser frogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 OP is ridiculous. Have you ever even been on a team at any level? This is par for the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 (edited) This team is out of control: http://espn.go.com/n...lack-discipline completely dressed down Hughes in front of the team. Wow. wow wow wow wow wow. "Marrone lined players up on one sideline and ripped into them for fighting. At one point, defensive end Jerry Hughes talked back to Marrone, leading to more shouting from Marrone in Hughes' direction, questioning him about whether he wanted to stay on the team. Players then ran sprints across the field in an apparent act of discipline. Looking directly at Hughes, Marrone used several profanities in telling the player to stop complaining. "Why can't you handle it as players?" Marrone yelled. He then motioned toward the locker room and said: "Do you want to play on this team?" Once again looking at Hughes, Marrone said: "If you've got a problem with me, you need to come and tell me."" Season appears to be spiraling out of control and it's not even week 3... OF THE PRESEASON!!! truly unbelievable. Can't remember things being this much of a train wreck since we fired our OC (can't even remember his name now, AVP?) before week 1 of the 09 season, then promptly had our hearts ripped out by new england week 1 on mnf. coincidently that season, we lost the hall of fame game, won our second preseason game, and then spiraled out of control for the final 3 preseason contests, with the offense looking terrible--blanked in the second to last preseason game, which led to the dismissal of the oc. things are looking eerily similar--but come all ye faithful, tell me why we're going to go 11-5 this year. actually, I'm going to adjust my win prediction from 4-12 to 2-14 right now. offense: can't score any points defense: lost it's 2 best players and only coordinator to have us playing good on that side of the ball since fewel special teams: worst in the year last year, retained the coach, thinking about keeping a kick off specialist? overall team: hates the coaching staff now, and must be wondering when the hell they can get out of buffalo, know marrone is a lame duck coach soon to be replaced by new owner, and their spot on the team is not a given. train wreck city boys--train wreck city. wait, wait , wait... you can spiral out of control before actually losing a game? man... Edited August 21, 2014 by Juice_32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Who cares? Good for Marrone, make them run! Exactly, Nothing to see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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