row_33 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: But he is probably just lying here too. still.... (shrug) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 18 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: You get guns. No one is saying you don't. I'm not. But please explain why the type of weapons that can fire large numbers of rounds are necessary. I'm willing to listen. Explain vs. just rant. I'm not saying you want to eliminate personal ownership of firearms, what I'm saying is you're doing all taking and no giving in this situation, whereas I am doing all giving and get nothing in return. See, a compromise would be something like this: both sides work together to find a way to better fund mental health services in the US. Not something like this: you give up your scary black guns and 30 round magazines. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 yes, sitting down and thinking up a logical and mature response will come up with a new argument that hasn't been turned down about 15 billion times by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 26 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Question: How many children are murdered by Planned Parenthood daily? Answer: More than 17. Pro-life anti healthcare. Yes, you sh it heads really care about life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 27 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Question: How many children are murdered by Planned Parenthood daily? Answer: More than 17. Shouldn't they call themselves Unplanned Parenthood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Pro-life anti healthcare. Yes, you sh it heads really care about life . not a bad thing to care about life, and yeah it is a fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, Azalin said: If I called you a Goddamned idiot would that be a religious statement? I sanction this usage of "idiot" with the official DC Tom "You're an Idiot" seal of approval. 9 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Pro-life anti healthcare. Yes, you sh it heads really care about life Republicans just want to abort grandma! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, row_33 said: you TWICE used the name of God and a Creator in your rights as an American and then pretended this wasn't a religious reference sorry i saw that as religious, how could i possibly do that??? you lost, pal... can you link your views that don't see God or a Creator as religious in intent and nature? The entire concept of rights began with religion. Prior to the Enlightenment, only one man had rights in a nation, and his claim on those rights was that they were granted to him by divine providence, IE The Right of Kings. Enlightenment philosophers made the religious argument that we are all created in God's image, and therefore all enjoyed the same natural rights granted by providence. This is where the entire concept of natural rights comes from. This is where every single argument anyone makes in favor of any rights rests their priori , as rights are not the same as privileges. Rights are intrinsic to your humanity which is what makes their violation a "wrong". Privileges are not rights. They are not intrinsic to your being. There is nothing "wrong" about removing someone's privilege, as someone had to first grant that privilege, and the Granter of Privilege is the only one who has any rights, as this is a might makes right philosophy. Edited February 21, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Just now, TakeYouToTasker said: The entire concept of rights began with religion. Prior to the Enlightenment, only one man had rights in a nation, and his claim on those rights was that he granted the by divine providence, IE The Right of Kings. Only if you're being extremely Eurocentric. Which is not unreasonable when discussing the Constitution, since Enlightenment philosophy is ultimately its foundation. But it's not correct, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Just now, DC Tom said: Only if you're being extremely Eurocentric. Which is not unreasonable when discussing the Constitution, since Enlightenment philosophy is ultimately its foundation. But it's not correct, either. For the purposes of this discussion it's correct though, for exactly the reasons you stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 we can all have our little pet theories about how we got here and how the US got its Law and how it's evolved but when you bring it out in public it is going to be sifted, like Satan sought to sift Peter... and sometimes your precious little feelings will get hurt when you are called out for total bull **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Justice said: Difference is drugs mainly hurts the user. Guns hurt others. Guns don't hurt others. People hurt others. You can pass a federal law stating that all Americans can only have one gun and one bullet each for their entire life, and wake up tomorrow to find out people are still hurting people with guns, and you probably won't even see a drop in what you see today because the one undeniable fact...which Chicago illustrates...is that when people want to kill people, they find a way regardless of your opinion or law. And there will be no solution, now or ever, because the biggest megaphones belong to the batschitcraziest people, and neither are interested in what the other has to say because they care more about making a point than finding a solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 3 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: Like they came after Bundy? Al, 3 touchdowns, Bundy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Ohio TV station demonstrates what happens when you shoot a watermelon with an “AR-15” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I have a question ..... DD suggests a % of teachers carry concealed weapon after they get proper training. 1) what are the chances of a hand gun against a semiautomatic rifle of some sort. 2) what training is mandatory for a person under 20 who wants the buy one of these type weapons? 3) who purchases the weapons and pays for the training? 3 actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Boyst62 said: Al, 3 touchdowns, Bundy? No, Cliven Bundy but the insect naturally assumed it was Al Bundy because he watches reruns every day and drools over Peg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 37 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: No, Cliven Bundy but the insect naturally assumed it was Al Bundy because he watches reruns every day and drools over Peg. Cliven was the dog? Bud was the son? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Cliven was the dog? Bud was the son? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliven_Bundy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Just now, 3rdnlng said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliven_Bundy Related to this guy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 51 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I have a question ..... DD suggests a % of teachers carry concealed weapon after they get proper training. 1) what are the chances of a hand gun against a semiautomatic rifle of some sort. 2) what training is mandatory for a person under 20 who wants the buy one of these type weapons? 3) who purchases the weapons and pays for the training? 3 actually. Number 1: a bad question because there are too many caveats to consider to just blindly answer that question, not the least of which is "who's holding the handgun and who's holding the rifle?" Also, what kind of bullets? You want to point a semiautomatic .22 caliber rifle at a person holding a .45 caliber handgun in it? You better make sure you aim well and often. Number 2: which state are you referring to? Number 3: What the hell are you asking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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