What is better, no guns, or more guns?

[Alaska Darin]

Which partisan Republicans have been "run-off this board?" State facts please, name some screen names? Rich in Ohio? Even though this is PPP, I will refuse to be disrespectful to the ones I disagreed with in the past and have left us for good.

That's the one whose name I actually remember, mostly because he was just as childish in PMs as he was on the board. There have been others but I don't care enough to remember their names.

[Tiberius]

 

That's the one whose name I actually remember, mostly because he was just as childish in PMs as he was on the board. There have been others but I don't care enough to remember their names.

You are saying that many of the people that post here are NOT die hard Conservative Republicans? That they have been driven from this board? ***mind blown***

[DC Tom]

You are saying that many of the people that post here are NOT die hard Conservative Republicans? That they have been driven from this board? ***mind blown***

 

No, he's saying the idiot partisan Republicans have been driven off (at least three...though Rich in Ohio is the only one I can think of, too).

 

Sadly, the idiot partisan Democrats such as you are still with us.

[ExiledInIllinois]

No, he's saying the idiot partisan Republicans have been driven off (at least three...though Rich in Ohio is the only one I can think of, too).

 

Sadly, the idiot partisan Democrats such as you are still with us.

 

There is one poster here that is a mild version of RiO... Actually may be him, but he isn't taking the Republican steriods anymore. If it is really him, he's still here just went underground.

[Azalin]

You are saying that many of the people that post here are NOT die hard Conservative Republicans? That they have been driven from this board? ***mind blown***

 

you make the mistake of assuming that those that disagree with you do so simply because they are as partisan as you are. this has been pointed out to you numerous times, but you can't seem to grasp it. there are some who are definitely conservative, some are obviously republicans, but the majority tend to be more pragmatic than pure idealists or simple partisans, despite what people like you or Baskin think. if that blows your mind, then the trouble exists between your ears, not in what others here are saying.

[FireChan]

There is one poster here that is a mild version of RiO... Actually may be him, but he isn't taking the Republican steriods anymore. If it is really him, he's still here just went underground.

 

Who is it?

[Tiberius]

No, he's saying the idiot partisan Republicans have been driven off (at least three...though Rich in Ohio is the only one I can think of, too).

 

Sadly, the idiot partisan Democrats such as you are still with us.

 

And you and he probably believe that, too.

 

you make the mistake of assuming that those that disagree with you do so simply because they are as partisan as you are. this has been pointed out to you numerous times, but you can't seem to grasp it. there are some who are definitely conservative, some are obviously republicans, but the majority tend to be more pragmatic than pure idealists or simple partisans, despite what people like you or Baskin think. if that blows your mind, then the trouble exists between your ears, not in what others here are saying.

And I make the same argument back. I can't grasp it because its total crap. 3/4 of the posters here can't take having their childish right wing beliefs challanged for a second. You guys just don't realize how far right wing partisan you are, and when I point out the obvious you guys go nuts with insults, personal attacks and orgies of rage.

[3rdnlng]

And you and he probably believe that, too.

 

And I make the same argument back. I can't grasp it because its total crap. 3/4 of the posters here can't take having their childish right wing beliefs challanged for a second. You guys just don't realize how far right wing partisan you are, and when I point out the obvious you guys go nuts with insults, personal attacks and orgies of rage.

 

Coming from you, that is hilarious.

 

You are so far left that everyone else seems far right to you.

[Azalin]

 

 

Coming from you, that is hilarious.

 

 

hilarious and typical.

 

whenever he's accused of blind, unthinking partisanship, he defends himself with blind, unthinking partisanship.

[Alaska Darin]

hilarious and typical.

 

whenever he's accused of blind, unthinking partisanship, he defends himself with blind, unthinking partisanship.

There's beauty in the consistency.

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I live in NWPA and people own guns for hunting.

Northwest PA, that's where people cling to their guns and religion. According to Obama anyways. But for whatever reason, Pennsyltucky doesn't seem to have as much gun crime as some neighborhoods on the east side of Erie

Just a followup in the lightening round, can't we tell something by the number of potential rounds or the allowance for magazines on these rifles?

 

I mean unless you are hunting baby seals, why would a hunter need a hundred rounds?

Two problems with your argument. First, most modern firearms have detachable magazines. So the number of potential rounds is indeterminate. Some magazines carry 5, 10, 20, 30, 45. You can get drums with 90. That said, many states and localities limit the number of rounds that you can carry while hunting. No problem with that, it's their prerogative. The cities in Hampton Roads Virginia for example limits open carry of semi-auto rifles to 20 round magazines, unless you have a CCW, at which point you can carry as many as you like. But you can still go to the local gun store and buy a 90 round drum for an AK-47 if your heart so desires, you're just limited to use in your home, private property, or a gun range. My second problem with your argument is the baby seal analogy. If I were hunting baby seals, I wouldn't use a rifle. I'd use a club

[DC Tom]

If I were hunting baby seals, I wouldn't use a rifle. I'd use a club

 

I use the internet and my razor-sharp wit.

[Bob in Mich]

I use the internet and my razor-sharp wit.

 

...and get your butt kicked by a gang of baby seals.....lol

[ExiledInIllinois]

 

 

...and get your butt kicked by a gang of baby seals.....lol

 

In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king. With Tom, he actually thinks he is king! King of the idiots.

[Tiberius]

 

 

Coming from you, that is hilarious.

 

You are so far left that everyone else seems far right to you.

 

Far left? I am? In what way? Please tell me. I don't think I am and I bet you can't tell me something about me that is "far left." you and the deputy dog crew here are see anyone that is Democrat as "far right."

 

 

There's beauty in the consistency.

 

So you agree with those two dorks. I consider that two points in my favor. Three blind mice as eye witnesses against me. Beautiful

 

 

 

...and get your butt kicked by a gang of baby seals.....lol

 

Lol

[DC Tom]

Far left? I am? In what way? Please tell me. I don't think I am and I bet you can't tell me something about me that is "far left." you and the deputy dog crew here are see anyone that is Democrat as "far right."

 

You are an unapologetic authoritarian socialist who repudiates the rule of law for the fuehrerprinzip, you make Trotsky look like JP Morgan.

[Tiberius]

 

 

you make Trotsky look like JP Morgan.

 

Oh :/

[3rdnlng]

Far left? I am? In what way? Please tell me. I don't think I am and I bet you can't tell me something about me that is "far left." you and the deputy dog crew here are see anyone that is Democrat as "far right."

 

 

You know, i've about had it responding to morons that can't even put a coherent sentence together. Get your schit together loser and then i'll discuss why someone who daily gives Obama verbal head is far left.

[Tiberius]

 

 

You know, i've about had it responding to morons that can't even put a coherent sentence together. Get your schit together loser and then i'll discuss why someone who daily gives Obama verbal head is far left.

 

So, you got nothing. Ok

 

 

But you got AD and that other moron behind you pushing, so you should be happy

[3rdnlng]

So, you got nothing. Ok

 

 

But you got AD and that other moron behind you pushing, so you should be happy

 

You've finally put a coherent sentence together. I'll now respond. Why do you worship Obama? What has he done that is even up to par? Who is AD and that other moron? Are "Depends" too expensive? Who is your favorite in 2016, Hillary Clinton or Lizzy Warren? Will Hillary talk about Lizzy's native american heritage and will Lizzy talk about Whitewater? Stay tuned to gator's responses that are not left wing.

[Chef Jim]

Far left? I am? In what way? Please tell me. I don't think I am and I bet you can't tell me something about me that is "far left." you and the deputy dog crew here are see anyone that is Democrat as "far right."

 

 

Seriously??

 

Post of the year.

[Tiberius]

 

 

Seriously??

 

Post of the year.

How do you define far left?

[Chef Jim]

How do you define far left?

 

Well I'm not going to list all the ideals that define far left but the biggest is social equality through the redistribution of wealth which I'm pretty sure you're all for. Tax the rich right?

 

BTW I really hope you see the incredible irony in your post I quoted.

[Joe Miner]

I'm still waiting for the examples of the 3 categories of guns so I know how to appropriately order mine.

[Tiberius]

 

 

Well I'm not going to list all the ideals that define far left but the biggest is social equality through the redistribution of wealth which I'm pretty sure you're all for. Tax the rich right?

 

BTW I really hope you see the incredible irony in your post I quoted.

So anyone that is for progressive taxation and redistribution of wealth is far left? Well, I got news for you, that's a basic feature of our government and has been for over 100 years. I'm pretty main stream actually. And if you clowns had your way and said to most Americans that taxes for the rich would be reduced so Socialist Security and Medicare will be reduced to compensate you would find my position is even more mainstream. Most Americans, including many wealthy people, think the wealthy should pay higher taxes than the poor and middle class.

 

You just want to label me far left because I kick your ass in arguments

 

Oh, and please tell me what the irony is you are talking about. Why do I get the feeling you won't? Lol

[Chef Jim]

So anyone that is for progressive taxation and redistribution of wealth is far left? Well, I got news for you, that's a basic feature of our government and has been for over 100 years. I'm pretty main stream actually. And if you clowns had your way and said to most Americans that taxes for the rich would be reduced so Socialist Security and Medicare will be reduced to compensate you would find my position is even more mainstream. Most Americans, including many wealthy people, think the wealthy should pay higher taxes than the poor and middle class.

 

You just want to label me far left because I kick your ass in arguments

 

Oh, and please tell me what the irony is you are talking about. Why do I get the feeling you won't? Lol

 

So the rich should pay more in taxes than the poor and middle class? No **** Sherlock. Who's saying they shouldn't?

 

And I won't answer your question? Of course I will. You call anyone who is conservative a right wing republican hack and then you say we call anyone who is a Demoncrat is a far right. I assume you meant far left. You don't see the irony in that?

Edited July 22, 2014 by Chef Jim

[Bob in Mich]

These are marginal US tax rates.... today they can get as high as 39% or so, if I recall.

 

As recent as 1986 the highest rate was 50%

As recent as 1981 the highest rate was 70%

As recent as 1964 the highest rate was 77%

From 1949 - 1963 the highest rate was 91%

[Azalin]

 

You just want to label me far left because I kick your ass in arguments

 

 

 

if you were kicking his, or anyone else's ass in arguments, we wouldn't all be calling you 'retard', would we?

[Tiberius]

So the rich should pay more in taxes than the poor and middle class? No **** Sherlock. Who's saying they shouldn't?

 

And I won't answer your question? Of course I will. You call anyone who is conservative a right wing republican hack and then you say we call anyone who is a Demoncrat is a far right. I assume you meant far left. You don't see the irony in that?

There is no irony there. Most of you guys are Right Wing, ill informed, hacks. And I am a moderate to liberal Democrat. So you are wrong.

 

Again, what makes me far left? You have utterly failed to point that out

 

These are marginal US tax rates.... today they can get as high as 39% or so, if I recall.

 

As recent as 1986 the highest rate was 50%

As recent as 1981 the highest rate was 70%

As recent as 1964 the highest rate was 77%

From 1949 - 1963 the highest rate was 91%

The high taxes of the WW2 era were slowly reduced. That kind of explains what happened to the War on Poverty, it was starved for funds. Ut oh! Did I just say something "far left"???

 

 

if you were kicking his, or anyone else's ass in arguments, we wouldn't all be calling you 'retard', would we?

Wow, just wow. Can't argue with that.

 

You really bring a third grade feeling to this board

[Chef Jim]

There is no irony there. Most of you guys are Right Wing, ill informed, hacks. And I am a moderate to liberal Democrat. So you are wrong.

 

Again, what makes me far left? You have utterly failed to point that out

 

 

I'm not going to spend any time pointing out how left wing you really are. If you consider yourself a moderate you in denial. Your posts ooz uber left wing ideals. So to call yourself moderate is a joke

 

Me? I'm very conservative. Very right wing, hell I'm to the right of Atilla the Hun. At least I can admit it.

[Azalin]

 

You really bring a third grade feeling to this board

 

 

maybe. if anyone can relate to third-graders around here, it's you.

[Koko78]

I'm still waiting for the examples of the 3 categories of guns so I know how to appropriately order mine.

 

The scary looking ones are solely for murdering people. The less scary looking ones are for slaughtering poor innocent animals as well as murdering people. The ones that are in between scary and less scary looking need to be decided on a case-by-case basis as to whether or not they are appropriate for only murdering people or a combination of homicide and animal cruelty.

 

You're welcome.

[TakeYouToTasker]

These are marginal US tax rates.... today they can get as high as 39% or so, if I recall.

 

As recent as 1986 the highest rate was 50%

As recent as 1981 the highest rate was 70%

As recent as 1964 the highest rate was 77%

From 1949 - 1963 the highest rate was 91%

Meaningless without qualifying it with the relevant tax laws of the eras in question.

 

Here's a hint to get you started: compare exemptions from today's top bracket and exceptions from the brackets in question.

 

Your takeaway will inevitably be that no one paid anywhere near 91%.

 

As such your comparison is far from apples to apples.

 

[KD in CA]

These are marginal US tax rates.... today they can get as high as 39% or so, if I recall.

 

As recent as 1986 the highest rate was 50%

As recent as 1981 the highest rate was 70%

As recent as 1964 the highest rate was 77%

From 1949 - 1963 the highest rate was 91%

 

Annnnnnd, one guy paying 39% on the $1,000,000 he's earned vs. another guy paying 10% on the $35,000 he's earned (obviously simplified for ease of example) is 'unfair' how exactly??

 

But if you are honest, you would have to admit if almost all adults are carrying weapons we will have more shootings of people than we have today.

 

Nothing wrong with shootings as long as the right people get shot.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cops-calif-man-80-fatally-shot-pregnant-home-intruder/

[Gary M]

Back to the topic, good guy with gun stops bad guy with gun.

 

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/07/160638-doctor-disobeyed-gun-free-zone/

[B-Man]

name='Gary M' timestamp='1406292673' post='3185892']

Back to the topic, good guy with gun stops bad guy with gun.

 

http://www.ijreview....-gun-free-zone/[/b]

 

 

and did the media cover it?...................somewhat.

 

 

NBC, CBS Allow a Scant 43 Seconds to Hero Doctor Who Shot Crazed Gunman

 

In the wake of the Newtown shootings, the networks highlighted President Obama's call for more gun control to rein in violence. However, NBC and CBS on Thursday night and Friday morning allowed a mere 43 seconds for the story of a hero doctor who used his own weapon to shoot a crazed gunman in Pennsylvania. Good Morning America reporter Ron Claiborne covered the story in a full report. He recounted, "...A psychiatric patient with a criminal past got into an argument with his caseworker, opened fire on her allegedly and then the doctor pulled out his gun and shot the gunman."

 

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/#ixzz38V3PuDfj

 

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[/dev/null]

and did the media cover it?...................somewhat.

 

 

NBC, CBS Allow a Scant 43 Seconds to Hero Doctor Who Shot Crazed Gunman

 

In the wake of the Newtown shootings, the networks highlighted President Obama's call for more gun control to rein in violence. However, NBC and CBS on Thursday night and Friday morning allowed a mere 43 seconds for the story of a hero doctor who used his own weapon to shoot a crazed gunman in Pennsylvania. Good Morning America reporter Ron Claiborne covered the story in a full report. He recounted, "...A psychiatric patient with a criminal past got into an argument with his caseworker, opened fire on her allegedly and then the doctor pulled out his gun and shot the gunman."

 

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/#ixzz38V3PuDfj

 

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This happened in Pennsylvania, but not in Obama's land of clingers to guns and religion. This happened outside of Filthadelphia. You know, the cultured part of Pennsylvania.

West PA is best PA

[Gary M]

This happened in Pennsylvania, but not in Obama's land of clingers to guns and religion. This happened outside of Filthadelphia. You know, the cultured part of Pennsylvania.

West PA is best PA

 

Strange you should mention that pit.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/carjacked-vehicle-hits-crowd-killing-2-kids-172956317.html

 

Need to outlaw carjacking

[Gary M]

and yet again.

 

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/07/161159-5-criminals-escape-downed-policeman-thats-meet-concealed-carry-owner-named-eastwood/

[Gary M]

And in gun free Chicago.....

 

http://news.yahoo.com/demoted-worker-shoots-ceo-kills-self-chicago-165512416.html