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Far left? I am? In what way? Please tell me. I don't think I am and I bet you can't tell me something about me that is "far left." you and the deputy dog crew here are see anyone that is Democrat as "far right."

 

 

Seriously?? :w00t:

 

Post of the year.

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How do you define far left?

 

Well I'm not going to list all the ideals that define far left but the biggest is social equality through the redistribution of wealth which I'm pretty sure you're all for. Tax the rich right?

 

BTW I really hope you see the incredible irony in your post I quoted.

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Well I'm not going to list all the ideals that define far left but the biggest is social equality through the redistribution of wealth which I'm pretty sure you're all for. Tax the rich right?

 

BTW I really hope you see the incredible irony in your post I quoted.

So anyone that is for progressive taxation and redistribution of wealth is far left? Well, I got news for you, that's a basic feature of our government and has been for over 100 years. I'm pretty main stream actually. And if you clowns had your way and said to most Americans that taxes for the rich would be reduced so Socialist Security and Medicare will be reduced to compensate you would find my position is even more mainstream. Most Americans, including many wealthy people, think the wealthy should pay higher taxes than the poor and middle class.

 

You just want to label me far left because I kick your ass in arguments

 

Oh, and please tell me what the irony is you are talking about. Why do I get the feeling you won't? Lol

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So anyone that is for progressive taxation and redistribution of wealth is far left? Well, I got news for you, that's a basic feature of our government and has been for over 100 years. I'm pretty main stream actually. And if you clowns had your way and said to most Americans that taxes for the rich would be reduced so Socialist Security and Medicare will be reduced to compensate you would find my position is even more mainstream. Most Americans, including many wealthy people, think the wealthy should pay higher taxes than the poor and middle class.

 

You just want to label me far left because I kick your ass in arguments

 

Oh, and please tell me what the irony is you are talking about. Why do I get the feeling you won't? Lol

 

So the rich should pay more in taxes than the poor and middle class? No **** Sherlock. Who's saying they shouldn't?

 

And I won't answer your question? Of course I will. You call anyone who is conservative a right wing republican hack and then you say we call anyone who is a Demoncrat is a far right. I assume you meant far left. You don't see the irony in that?

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These are marginal US tax rates.... today they can get as high as 39% or so, if I recall.

 

As recent as 1986 the highest rate was 50%

As recent as 1981 the highest rate was 70%

As recent as 1964 the highest rate was 77%

From 1949 - 1963 the highest rate was 91%

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You just want to label me far left because I kick your ass in arguments

 

 

:lol:

 

if you were kicking his, or anyone else's ass in arguments, we wouldn't all be calling you 'retard', would we?

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So the rich should pay more in taxes than the poor and middle class? No **** Sherlock. Who's saying they shouldn't?

 

And I won't answer your question? Of course I will. You call anyone who is conservative a right wing republican hack and then you say we call anyone who is a Demoncrat is a far right. I assume you meant far left. You don't see the irony in that?

There is no irony there. Most of you guys are Right Wing, ill informed, hacks. And I am a moderate to liberal Democrat. So you are wrong.

 

Again, what makes me far left? You have utterly failed to point that out

 

These are marginal US tax rates.... today they can get as high as 39% or so, if I recall.

 

As recent as 1986 the highest rate was 50%

As recent as 1981 the highest rate was 70%

As recent as 1964 the highest rate was 77%

From 1949 - 1963 the highest rate was 91%

The high taxes of the WW2 era were slowly reduced. That kind of explains what happened to the War on Poverty, it was starved for funds. Ut oh! Did I just say something "far left"???

 

:lol:

 

if you were kicking his, or anyone else's ass in arguments, we wouldn't all be calling you 'retard', would we?

Wow, just wow. Can't argue with that. :doh:

 

You really bring a third grade feeling to this board

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There is no irony there. Most of you guys are Right Wing, ill informed, hacks. And I am a moderate to liberal Democrat. So you are wrong.

 

Again, what makes me far left? You have utterly failed to point that out

 

 

I'm not going to spend any time pointing out how left wing you really are. If you consider yourself a moderate you in denial. Your posts ooz uber left wing ideals. So to call yourself moderate is a joke

 

Me? I'm very conservative. Very right wing, hell I'm to the right of Atilla the Hun. At least I can admit it.

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I'm still waiting for the examples of the 3 categories of guns so I know how to appropriately order mine.

 

The scary looking ones are solely for murdering people. The less scary looking ones are for slaughtering poor innocent animals as well as murdering people. The ones that are in between scary and less scary looking need to be decided on a case-by-case basis as to whether or not they are appropriate for only murdering people or a combination of homicide and animal cruelty.

 

You're welcome.

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These are marginal US tax rates.... today they can get as high as 39% or so, if I recall.

 

As recent as 1986 the highest rate was 50%

As recent as 1981 the highest rate was 70%

As recent as 1964 the highest rate was 77%

From 1949 - 1963 the highest rate was 91%

Meaningless without qualifying it with the relevant tax laws of the eras in question.

 

Here's a hint to get you started: compare exemptions from today's top bracket and exceptions from the brackets in question.

 

Your takeaway will inevitably be that no one paid anywhere near 91%.

 

As such your comparison is far from apples to apples.

 

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These are marginal US tax rates.... today they can get as high as 39% or so, if I recall.

 

As recent as 1986 the highest rate was 50%

As recent as 1981 the highest rate was 70%

As recent as 1964 the highest rate was 77%

From 1949 - 1963 the highest rate was 91%

 

Annnnnnd, one guy paying 39% on the $1,000,000 he's earned vs. another guy paying 10% on the $35,000 he's earned (obviously simplified for ease of example) is 'unfair' how exactly??

 

But if you are honest, you would have to admit if almost all adults are carrying weapons we will have more shootings of people than we have today.

 

Nothing wrong with shootings as long as the right people get shot.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cops-calif-man-80-fatally-shot-pregnant-home-intruder/

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Back to the topic, good guy with gun stops bad guy with gun.

 

http://www.ijreview....-gun-free-zone/[/b]

 

 

and did the media cover it?...................somewhat.

 

 

NBC, CBS Allow a Scant 43 Seconds to Hero Doctor Who Shot Crazed Gunman

 

In the wake of the Newtown shootings, the networks highlighted President Obama's call for more gun control to rein in violence. However, NBC and CBS on Thursday night and Friday morning allowed a mere 43 seconds for the story of a hero doctor who used his own weapon to shoot a crazed gunman in Pennsylvania. Good Morning America reporter Ron Claiborne covered the story in a full report. He recounted, "...A psychiatric patient with a criminal past got into an argument with his caseworker, opened fire on her allegedly and then the doctor pulled out his gun and shot the gunman."

 

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/#ixzz38V3PuDfj

 

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and did the media cover it?...................somewhat.

 

 

NBC, CBS Allow a Scant 43 Seconds to Hero Doctor Who Shot Crazed Gunman

 

In the wake of the Newtown shootings, the networks highlighted President Obama's call for more gun control to rein in violence. However, NBC and CBS on Thursday night and Friday morning allowed a mere 43 seconds for the story of a hero doctor who used his own weapon to shoot a crazed gunman in Pennsylvania. Good Morning America reporter Ron Claiborne covered the story in a full report. He recounted, "...A psychiatric patient with a criminal past got into an argument with his caseworker, opened fire on her allegedly and then the doctor pulled out his gun and shot the gunman."

 

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/#ixzz38V3PuDfj

 

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This happened in Pennsylvania, but not in Obama's land of clingers to guns and religion. This happened outside of Filthadelphia. You know, the cultured part of Pennsylvania. :rolleyes:

West PA is best PA :P

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This happened in Pennsylvania, but not in Obama's land of clingers to guns and religion. This happened outside of Filthadelphia. You know, the cultured part of Pennsylvania. :rolleyes:

West PA is best PA :P

 

Strange you should mention that pit.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/carjacked-vehicle-hits-crowd-killing-2-kids-172956317.html

 

Need to outlaw carjacking

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