Rubes Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Robey gets a would-be sack on a corner blitz in OTAs. During the team periods of practice defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz had some new wrinkles in his defense. Schwartz unveiled an array of new blitz packages, which by and large caught Buffalo’s passing game by surprise. “We installed a few more blitzes coming off the edge,” said Nickell Robey, who notched a would-be sack on a corner blitz in practice. “We’ve already got a few blitzes in there so we wanted to put a little heat on them and see how they respond to it and see how we are out there against it with new installations and everything. When he called it up it was good. I liked it.” There. Everybody feeling better now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 To be fair...there is a reason they drafted Cockrell, in what, the 4th round? He is a big CB and I wouldn't be surprised to see him as the #3 CB by the end of the year. I like Robey, but this team is clearly trying to get bigger and stronger...which is fine by me. (Didn't they try Ron Brooks at free safety last year or the year before?) Why in the world would we take Robey off the field.....one of the best corners we had last year and a blitzing demon! Its OTAs Everyone likes Robey but the fact is he is still a liability due to his size and shouldn't be anything more then a 4th or 5th corner especially since they prob won't be blitzing their corners as much which is one of his best qualities. There is more to playing football then having prototypical size We had a certain corner that we never should have let go that went to the Saints and played for years that should have proved that out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Wonder if he can play DT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Robey gets a would-be sack on a corner blitz in OTAs. There. Everybody feeling better now? Yiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Robey gets a would-be sack on a corner blitz in OTAs. There. Everybody feeling better now? That warmed my heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I love Robey. But, he can't play every down. When he did last year it allowed the opposition to get him one on one against a size mismatch. He is great as a situational and/or blitzing CB. He can't be our #3 CB. He can also fill in for injuries quite well more so during a game. When the opposition knows he will be playing a considerable amount, beside situational and blitzing play, that is when he gets in those tough matchups and gets burned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I love Robey. But, he can't play every down. When he did last year it allowed the opposition to get him one on one against a size mismatch. He is great as a situational and/or blitzing CB. He can't be our #3 CB. He can also fill in for injuries quite well more so during a game. When the opposition knows he will be playing a considerable amount, beside situational and blitzing play, that is when he gets in those tough matchups and gets burned. Please show these situations where Robey got burned.....ill wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Please show these situations where Robey got burned.....ill wait There were many. As the year went on he was more and more isolated on WR taking him deep or on jump balls in the end zone where he is outmatched. Hey, I like the guy and he provided some great plays last year, but it is not like they could not upgrade at that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 There were many. As the year went on he was more and more isolated on WR taking him deep or on jump balls in the end zone where he is outmatched. Hey, I like the guy and he provided some great plays last year, but it is not like they could not upgrade at that position. Robey was never burned. I recall a few situations like in the New Orleans game where Robey provided tight coverage and Brees just made a perfect throw. Robey only loses occasionally due to his size, but I don't recall him ever losing his man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Please show these situations where Robey got burned.....ill wait I don't remember the exact situations. I agree with you regarding liking stats and exacts, unfortunately I don't have them regarding Robey. But, it was late in the year. It was not often. It was 1-3 times a game when he played a lot of downs and the oppositions knew he was going to play a lot of downs when we had 3 CBs in the game due to lack of depth usually when a man was in motion to gain the mismatch. I don't dislike Robey at all. I like him....but, just for certain situations. Size is not everything, but, when you are 5 to 9 inches shorter than the WR you are one on one with it is very tough for Robey to win the battles. Blitzing and covering the WR in the slot he is excellent. It is when he is covering the slot WR and they run motion or audible Robey and the Bills are at a disadvantage. Once again, sorry for not having facts and examples...I would prefer if I did too. Robey was never burned. I recall a few situations like in the New Orleans game where Robey provided tight coverage and Brees just made a perfect throw. Robey only loses occasionally due to his size, but I don't recall him ever losing his man. I don't recall him ever losing his man either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) No doubt Robey played well last year - in pass coverage. And while that's the #1 priority, most NFL defensive schemes require the slot guy to be an important factor in supporting the defense against the run - something Robey struggled with, in part because of his size. But he is a quality DB, no doubt. No he didnt. he tackled very well I love Robey. But, he can't play every down. When he did last year it allowed the opposition to get him one on one against a size mismatch. He is great as a situational and/or blitzing CB. He can't be our #3 CB. He can also fill in for injuries quite well more so during a game. When the opposition knows he will be playing a considerable amount, beside situational and blitzing play, that is when he gets in those tough matchups and gets burned. No offense brother Thats what we have coaches for and multiple Corners and Safeties. Mismatches and situational. Now that we have the players and a coach who can make adjustments Robey should rarely be left on some gimungous rec/TE . and when he is matched up well he has very very good chance of winning his battle . If last year is any indication.You Go Nickle and Dime Nickell ! Edited June 3, 2014 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 No he didnt. he tackled very well Anybody got that play where Robey leveled that offensive player.....thing of beaty People are making stuff up about Robey because they are always looking for ways to improve the team...... If it aint broke dont fix it.....what we need are corners that can step in for Gilmore and McKelvin......im hoping Cockrell is that player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Anybody got that play where Robey leveled that offensive player.....thing of beaty People are making stuff up about Robey because they are always looking for ways to improve the team...... If it aint broke dont fix it.....what we need are corners that can step in for Gilmore and McKelvin......im hoping Cockrell is that player exactly brother.exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 He may be small but he plays big. Marrone said of him when he made some big plays last year that he wasn't surprised and was wondering why he didn't have more given what he saw in practice. He's a football player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 There were many. As the year went on he was more and more isolated on WR taking him deep or on jump balls in the end zone where he is outmatched. Hey, I like the guy and he provided some great plays last year, but it is not like they could not upgrade at that position. You mean the jump ball AJ Green beat McKelvin on? Or the simple slant route that Roddy White burned Gilmore on about 10 times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 You mean the jump ball AJ Green beat McKelvin on? Or the simple slant route that Roddy White burned Gilmore on about 10 times? ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 You mean the jump ball AJ Green beat McKelvin on? Or the simple slant route that Roddy White burned Gilmore on about 10 times? No I think he's talking about the jump balls against TB, NO, and Atlanta that Robey got beat on. He's a good slot CB; there is merit to the point about boundary plays and jump balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I realize Marrone said it. I believe how you're using it is wrong. Robey vs. Brooks, if they were both rookies, it would be a fair point. Robey was better coached in college, fair. It's no excuse for Brooks to be outplayed by him when he has been in the NFL twice as long. ROY for the Bills, yeah. UDFA at 5'7" playing only in nickel packages? Those numbers would be good for a later round pick out of the draft. For a limited UDFA, they're incredible. Robey is a sure tackler, he flies around the field, and hits pretty hard. I haven't seen any of that out of Brooks. I agree he may be limited in who he can cover, but I think he's outperformed Brooks in half the time, hasn't gotten injured twice and beat Brooks out last year. To say the Bills disagree with Robey being better than Brooks is ludicrous. We don't even need a #1 or #2 CB, as McKelvin has arrived and Gilmore has proved more than Brooks. Brooks may hopefully turn out to be a guy who has a better shot of guarding AJ Green than Robey, but at this juncture, I'd take my chances with Robey. I would take Robey over Brooks 10 out of 10 times. Past performance is the greatest indicator of future performance. Robey is limited, but, excels in what he can do. Brooks has proven over and over again to not be able to compete in this league AND not be able to stay healthy. Add that to he is from previous regime. Robey, 10 out of 10! Hands down! No he didnt. he tackled very well Thats what we have coaches for and multiple Corners and Safeties. Mismatches and situational. Now that we have the players and a coach who can make adjustments Robey should rarely be left on some gimungous rec/TE . and when he is matched up well he has very very good chance of winning his battle . If last year is any indication. You Go Nickle and Dime Nickell ! I don't disagree with you. I THINK we are on the same page? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) No I think he's talking about the jump balls against TB, NO, and Atlanta that Robey got beat on. He's a good slot CB; there is merit to the point about boundary plays and jump balls. Robey isn't a shut-down corner. No one is expecting him to be. Mismatching against Tony G. isn't an issue that only happens to Robey. CB's can't cover every pass ever. Even the best ones. Robey is a versatile and athletic 3rd CB. I can't see us upgrading that position. Edited June 4, 2014 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 No I think he's talking about the jump balls against TB, NO, and Atlanta that Robey got beat on. He's a good slot CB; there is merit to the point about boundary plays and jump balls. OK but lets be realistic here...... Robey's main assignments are going to be those quick little scatter bugs going across the middle of the field........the big long lengthy guys are outside recievers and will usually be covered by our 6' plus 200 pound plus corners Then when you factor in the bltiz factor for Robey.......you take too much good off the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I would take Robey over Brooks 10 out of 10 times. Past performance is the greatest indicator of future performance. Robey is limited, but, excels in what he can do. Brooks has proven over and over again to not be able to compete in this league AND not be able to stay healthy. Add that to he is from previous regime. Robey, 10 out of 10! Hands down! I don't disagree with you. I THINK we are on the same page? We're good , brother ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 To be fair...there is a reason they drafted Cockrell, in what, the 4th round? He is a big CB and I wouldn't be surprised to see him as the #3 CB by the end of the year. I like Robey, but this team is clearly trying to get bigger and stronger...which is fine by me. (Didn't they try Ron Brooks at free safety last year or the year before?) Robey is somewhat a slot specialist. I can't recall a slot CB having anything like the impact he had with similar regularity. As many have mentioned though, he is not suited to be matched up outside. This means that if Gilmore or McKelvin get injured we will need somebody to be able to competently fill in for them(thus the Cockrell drafting). I can see us being relatively unconventional with our CBs. Robey will be the #1 CB for the slot position, but won't be the #3 CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Robey isn't a shut-down corner. No one is expecting him to be. Mismatching against Tony G. isn't an issue that only happens to Robey. CB's can't cover every pass ever. Even the best ones. Robey is a versatile and athletic 3rd CB. I can't see us upgrading that position. OK but lets be realistic here...... Robey's main assignments are going to be those quick little scatter bugs going across the middle of the field........the big long lengthy guys are outside recievers and will usually be covered by our 6' plus 200 pound plus corners Then when you factor in the bltiz factor for Robey.......you take too much good off the field I never disagreed with either of those points...FireChan asked a question and I helped to clarify the previous poster's remarks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Listening to Schwartz's presser from yesterday and I don't think we need to worry about Robey. I think JS has a man crush on him, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Listening to Schwartz's presser from yesterday and I don't think we need to worry about Robey. I think JS has a man crush on him, lol. Excellent news, indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Listening to Schwartz's presser from yesterday and I don't think we need to worry about Robey. I think JS has a man crush on him, lol. Yeah I got that too...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 @mikerodak Jim Schwartz on Nickell Robey: "He'll certainly have a role for us. He's been one of our best players in OTAs." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Yeah, loved hearing Schwartz talk about Robey. Robey can flat-out play, and if it's that clear to me, I would think it would be obvious to a coach watching game tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Guy on the Bench Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 Listening to Schwartz's presser from yesterday and I don't think we need to worry about Robey. I think JS has a man crush on him, lol. Yes, that was really heartening. More generally, I like the way Schwartz comes off in his press conferences. He's smart and will actually give fairly specific answers. For example, when asked if there is an area of the defense that they are most excited about, most coaches will just say "all of them." Schwartz actually said the secondary. He is growing on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Yes, that was really heartening. More generally, I like the way Schwartz comes off in his press conferences. He's smart and will actually give fairly specific answers. For example, when asked if there is an area of the defense that they are most excited about, most coaches will just say "all of them." Schwartz actually said the secondary. He is growing on me. Agreed -- I was fairly impressed by Schwartz's press conference, and though I remain skeptical, he is definitely growing on me. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, of course. There's no excuses for him if the D sucks this year -- way too much talent, even if Dareus gets suspended. I am very curious to see how the secondary shakes out. I don't think Corey Graham will ultimately be moved to safety, and if he doesn't, then how is playing time split among him and Robey as slot CBs? The trends lately have been away from 4-WR sets and more toward splitting out athletic TEs to act as a 3rd or 4th WR. Defenses have responded by moving somewhat away from true nickel or dime defenses, and more toward "big nickel" (3 S, 2 CB) or dime defenses with extra safeties or hybrid players instead of CBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Paul Hamilton @pham1717 4m Bills' Robey had to prove himself again http://bit.ly/1kL1ObH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Paul Hamilton @pham1717 4m Bills' Robey had to prove himself again http://bit.ly/1kL1ObH I love this guy. Can't wait to see what he does this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 The characteristic about Robey that gets mentioned over and over is that he rarely if ever makes the same mistake twice. For those who are all set to jettison him (and what's up with that?), let me remind you that last season would have been his senior year. He's very young; my assumption is that he's only going to get better, maybe a lot better, this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOGNESS Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Yes, be very worried what is happening on the field in May. Your right. We should just wait till the seasons over before we make any judgments. Actually lets wait two years. Wouldnt want to jump the gun evaluating anything a team is doing that hasnt made the playofs in 14 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Your right. We should just wait till the seasons over before we make any judgments. Actually lets wait two years. Wouldnt want to jump the gun evaluating anything a team is doing that hasnt made the playofs in 14 years. YOU'RE getting upset because they are rotating different players in during practice? Are you upset Glenn played a few snaps at guard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I am a Robey fan. Big time . He was a joy to watch play last year. he just kept getting better and better. His statement made sense about the game becoming clear . Robey and Graham , and then Cockrell and Brooks . Thats one of the things i call ..... stacked , my friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 YOU'RE getting upset because they are rotating different players in during practice? Are you upset Glenn played a few snaps at guard? 0-16 because of that shiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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