Prickly Pete Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I don't know if this has been discussed, but the pink penalty flags aren't just silly and unnecessary, they are confusing. There are all these guys with pink towels on their uniforms, and I swear there were times when they were on the field and I couldn't tell if it was a thrown flag or just a guy's towel. The NFL certainly wouldn't allow players to have yellow towels, so why do they have to go with overkill and have the penalty flags pink? We all get the idea when we see all the other pink items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnarStahl Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Agreed 100%. Lets get the pink football out there for next Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Pink flags are over the top. I didn't know during the game if it was a penalty flag or if some player had lost his terrible towel. Let the refs have pink sweatbands and pink whistles, but leave the flags yellow IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 Agreed 100%. Lets get the pink football out there for next Sunday. I'm not against the whole concept, but it's not anymore effective having the flags be pink. I saw that it's some kind of Roger Goodell public relations grab "An 11 year old boy wrote a letter asking the NFL to change the flags to pink, and Goodell thought it was a great idea." But it's not, it's just a publicity grab for the commissioner. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/11-old-boy-convinced-nfl-pink-penalty-flags-183137397--nfl.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinzChampionshipz Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I definitely was not a fan of the pink flags... It's bad enough we have to wear pink 5 games this year. How much more pink do they want to add? We get it. We all feel that Breast Cancer Awareness is a positive way to assure women that they aren't alone in the fight, but a simple pink ribbon on the helmets, jerseys and sidelines can also show support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLS 4 EVER Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 That was the dumbest **** I've ever seen. I hate the pink crap. Why don't they all wear brown to support prostrate cancer. Stupid NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I had to listen to the beginning of the game, and Murph thought there was flag down, but it was somebody's towel. Well, at least now I'm aware of breast cancer. I had never heard of it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan since '64 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I definitely was not a fan of the pink flags... It's bad enough we have to wear pink 5 games this year. How much more pink do they want to add? We get it. We all feel that Breast Cancer Awareness is a positive way to assure women that they aren't alone in the fight, but a simple pink ribbon on the helmets, jerseys and sidelines can also show support. +1 And for one game a year, not a whole month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 No complaints on the pink flags here. I've known too many with cancer, including breast cancer. Honestly I think the flag color should be something that no team has in its uniform. If I watch the Steelers or Packers I think there are flags on almost every play because I'm used to looking for a yellow flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Thought the same thing. I thought towels were flying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 They should just change the zebras uniforms to be black and pink rather than black and white. The pink gloves look ok on night games however, almost neon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Keep in mind the NFL doesn't and shouldn't care if we the viewing audience can't tell if its a flag or a towel, as long as the refs & players know what is what... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Keep in mind the NFL doesn't and shouldn't care if we the viewing audience can't tell if its a flag or a towel, as long as the refs & players know what is what... Yeah because it's not about the fans at all. Well at least for followers of the only NFL franchise in WNY. I don't think it's been about them for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I bet if that pink flag raised $500 in an auction and that money went toward a cure for a disease your loved one was dying from ... it wouldn't bother you as much. There's a hell of a lot more on the line than confused viewers. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I bet if that pink flag raised $500 in an auction and that money went toward a cure for a disease your loved one was dying from ... it wouldn't bother you as much. There's a hell of a lot more on the line than confused viewers. Get over it. Ill have to agree here. i dont know why people are making a huge deal about this. If it does not effect the game then why does it matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 differentiating between flags and towels has NOTHING to do with fan involvement, if there is a penalty, the ref will let us know, if a player drops a towel, he'll pick it up and play and life will resume...if they wanted us to have that much involvement in the game, we'd hear the huddle conversations...this really should be a non-issue Yeah because it's not about the fans at all. Well at least for followers of the only NFL franchise in WNY. I don't think it's been about them for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thisistheyear Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Keep in mind the NFL doesn't and shouldn't care if we the viewing audience can't tell if its a flag or a towel, as long as the refs & players know what is what... The NFL should, and probably does, care if the audience can tell if it's a flag or a towel. Knowing that a flag was thrown is part of the viewing experience. Not being able to tell if it's a flag or a towel or some other random flash of pink detracts from the viewing experience and is annoying to me. However, the NFL is run by very smart people who are phenomenal marketers. They didn't decide to use pink flags all willy-nilly like. In fact, I would argue that the NFL loves being part of conversations like these. If we're not talking about the game, we're talking about the flags. I'm sure that the NFL raises a ton of money for breast cancer research and has helped many people. However, their decision to make Breast Cancer Awareness their signature cause was about marketing and it was a genius decision. They are raising money in the most visible, public way possible...in a way that wouldn't be possible if the cause was prostate cancer, heart disease or autism. On one level it endears the NFL to women, an area of huge growth potential. On another level, men love boobs. The pink flags further the conversation and increase the NFL's connection to the cause. As much as they annoyed me last night, unless they hinder game play, they're probably here for October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I did see a towel on the ground last night and I thought it was a flag. It took nearly 9 seconds for me to have to wait to make sure whether it was, indeed, a flag or a towel. That's potentially 8 million viewers who had to endure the same grueling 9 seconds. The math has too many digits for me to figure out, but let me tell you ... that's a lot of time. I was 9 seconds late for work this morning because of that damned towel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I did see a towel on the ground last night and I thought it was a flag. It took nearly 9 seconds for me to have to wait to make sure whether it was, indeed, a flag or a towel. That's potentially 8 million viewers who had to endure the same grueling 9 seconds. The math has too many digits for me to figure out, but let me tell you ... that's a lot of time. I was 9 seconds late for work this morning because of that damned towel. but why even create those in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) How about pink for two weeks and light blue for two weeks? Light blue is the color for prostate cancer. About as many men get prostate cancer as women get breast cancer, but a lot more money goes to breast cancer research. The Safeways in my area do both. Edited October 4, 2013 by Wacka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 personally i'd rather try and safe the women than men..they are much hotter How about pink for two weeks and light blue for two weeks? Light blue is the color for prostate cancer. About as many men get prostate cancer as women get breast cancer, but a lot more money goes to breast cancer research. The Safeways in my area do both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 They should embed pink flashing LED's into the flag... How cool would that be, nobody would get confused then... :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullpen Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) I'll just leave this here: http://www.businessi...-cancer-2012-10 Edited October 4, 2013 by Bullpen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinzChampionshipz Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 How about pink for two weeks and light blue for two weeks? Light blue is the color for prostate cancer. About as many men get prostate cancer as women get breast cancer, but a lot more money goes to breast cancer research. The Safeways in my area do both. Mother's Day>Father's Day Dear Mama (Tupac)>Wetter (Twista, female on hook says, Can you be my daddy?) Women will always win the attention battle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) I bet if that pink flag raised $500 in an auction and that money went toward a cure for a disease your loved one was dying from ... it wouldn't bother you as much. There's a hell of a lot more on the line than confused viewers. Get over it. I am 100% behind them raising money and awareness. The uniforms are fine, and actually clever and cool ( sometimes). They can paint the stadiums pink, and I will applaud them. I'm also aware of an undercurrent of "let's appeal to the female demographic". The cause is worthy enough to let it slide, but it is there. . There's no shortage of pink NFL items to auction, and pink penalty flags aren't going to be some kind of deal breaker ("no penalty flags? that's it, I'm keeping my money!"). No one is claiming that football is more important than cancer, and like everyone here, I have plenty of close relatives that have suffered. My Mom just grew her hair back. I haven't spoken to her yet, but no doubt as she watched the game last night, at some point she said " These pink penalty flags are confusing to me. It's like 20 flags flying around on the field. I think there is a penalty every play". There is a point where it becomes grandstanding, and "more pink" doesn't equal "more dollars", or more awareness. That point has arrived. Edited October 5, 2013 by Marauder'sMicro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I agree, and my mom also had breast cancer. Both my parents had probably 4-5 cancers between them. Yet, I really wish that a lot of this cancer research would go into Alzheimer's research instead. We all have to die sometime. But, we are living so long now that we are going to have an unbearable amount of people with dementia. I am much more about quality of life than quantity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted October 5, 2013 Author Share Posted October 5, 2013 (edited) I agree, and my mom also had breast cancer. Both my parents had probably 4-5 cancers between them. Yet, I really wish that a lot of this cancer research would go into Alzheimer's research instead. We all have to die sometime. But, we are living so long now that we are going to have an unbearable amount of people with dementia. I am much more about quality of life than quantity. Mom, her 2 sisters, grandma, mother-in law... I'm not trying to be unsympathetic, or act like "football is everything, cancer is getting in the way". I just don't think pink flags are having any effect except making the viewer edgy about penalties while trying to watch the game. I don't think that was the intent of the League. And while some didn't notice, obviously I wasn't alone. Edited October 5, 2013 by Marauder'sMicro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 You said it - it's grandstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Best pink flag: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 NFL switching back to yellow flags next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 The Pats* were saying: "What's the confusion about? None of them were tossed against us. We're perfect, we don't make penalties." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 The Pats* were saying: "What's the confusion about? None of them were tossed against us. We're perfect, we don't make penalties." Or... "we were wondering what those were for." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 That was the dumbest **** I've ever seen. I hate the pink crap. Why don't they all wear brown to support prostrate cancer. Stupid NFL. Go ahead and laugh but supporting prostate cancer awareness would make so much more sense. The NFL audience is mostly male and prostate cancer kills more men than breast cancer does women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Go ahead and laugh but supporting prostate cancer awareness would make so much more sense. The NFL audience is mostly male and prostate cancer kills more men than breast cancer does women. It boggles my mind that people view this as a competition. Seriously? Cancer spreads. The insensitivity and ignorance of some people in this so called civilized society we live in makes me sick. Sorry it's an inconvenience for you people while others are losing their loved ones and hoping there is a cure someday. Karma is a real mother !@#$er. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I bet if that pink flag raised $500 in an auction and that money went toward a cure for a disease your loved one was dying from ... it wouldn't bother you as much. There's a hell of a lot more on the line than confused viewers. Get over it. This^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 It boggles my mind that people view this as a competition. Seriously? Cancer spreads. The insensitivity and ignorance of some people in this so called civilized society we live in makes me sick. Sorry it's an inconvenience for you people while others are losing their loved ones and hoping there is a cure someday. Karma is a real mother !@#$er. You need to relax you are way over reacting or mis reading my intent. The NFL should focus on men's health issues since more than 75% of their audience is men, and men are more reluctant or ignorant on prostate health then women on breast health, they should also promote prostate cancer awareness. It wasn't a competition but an observation. Prostate cancer awareness gets very little attention. Everyone know about breast cancer and the pink ribbons. I'm not being insensitive because I've had breast cancer in my family on loved ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 You need to relax you are way over reacting or mis reading my intent. The NFL should focus on men's health issues since more than 75% of their audience is men, and men are more reluctant or ignorant on prostate health then women on breast health, they should also promote prostate cancer awareness. It wasn't a competition but an observation. Prostate cancer awareness gets very little attention. Everyone know about breast cancer and the pink ribbons. I'm not being insensitive because I've had breast cancer in my family on loved ones. Well if you're going to base it on the NFL audience they should do a alcohol abuse awareness month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 You need to relax you are way over reacting or mis reading my intent. The NFL should focus on men's health issues since more than 75% of their audience is men, and men are more reluctant or ignorant on prostate health then women on breast health, they should also promote prostate cancer awareness. It wasn't a competition but an observation. Prostate cancer awareness gets very little attention. Everyone know about breast cancer and the pink ribbons. I'm not being insensitive because I've had breast cancer in my family on loved ones. I understand and I apologize for jumping to conclusions. This is a heavy topic. However, although breast cancer awareness is far greater than that of prostate cancer awareness, the statistics speak loudly and clearly that breast cancer is, by far, the greater threat. Believe me. I wish there could be more focus on Crohn's Disease and Huntington's Disease (two killers that are affecting my sister and cousin, respectively) as well as ovarian cancer, which is currently killing my aunt (the mother of the cousin with Huntington's Disease). My point is simply this ... I'm sure the NFL didn't want to choose just one disease, but they likely had to. I honestly don't know. But breast cancer, while more curable today than ever, is still killing people in droves. The thirds highest death rate (Lung and Colon are 1 and 2). I'm just happy that there are ways for a business as big as the NFL to help gain awareness and money toward research for a cure for at least one disease. Again ... I apologize for saying you were insensitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I like pink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 (edited) You need to relax you are way over reacting or mis reading my intent. The NFL should focus on men's health issues since more than 75% of their audience is men, and men are more reluctant or ignorant on prostate health then women on breast health, they should also promote prostate cancer awareness. It wasn't a competition but an observation. Prostate cancer awareness gets very little attention. Everyone know about breast cancer and the pink ribbons. I'm not being insensitive because I've had breast cancer in my family on loved ones. yea but that isnt good marketing. I understand and I apologize for jumping to conclusions. This is a heavy topic. However, although breast cancer awareness is far greater than that of prostate cancer awareness, the statistics speak loudly and clearly that breast cancer is, by far, the greater threat. Believe me. I wish there could be more focus on Crohn's Disease and Huntington's Disease (two killers that are affecting my sister and cousin, respectively) as well as ovarian cancer, which is currently killing my aunt (the mother of the cousin with Huntington's Disease). My point is simply this ... I'm sure the NFL didn't want to choose just one disease, but they likely had to. I honestly don't know. But breast cancer, while more curable today than ever, is still killing people in droves. The thirds highest death rate (Lung and Colon are 1 and 2). I'm just happy that there are ways for a business as big as the NFL to help gain awareness and money toward research for a cure for at least one disease. Again ... I apologize for saying you were insensitive. the nfl chose a widely popular, generally nonoffensive, womens ailment as an attempt to reach out and sell pink gear to women. prostate cancer month doesnt give them any boost, although it likely would do much more for "awareness" or making the disease one that is less taboo. if you think its primarily because they wanted to be selfless and help people - id say thats simply the image they want to portray. very little of the money gets to research. what does is a nice byproduct but it certainly is not front and center in the league goals. Edited October 8, 2013 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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