josephfrei Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) Here's more arrogance from Boston area writers. This is in response to the Bills related link from TBD Jan.13, 2013 (go there for full story): Doug Marrone might pay off for the Bills http://bostonglobe.c...VfGL/story.html Does it ever occur to anyone what nice little financial advantage, fair or unfair, it still is to have not just a behemoth-sized urban market to pull from (Boston), but also be the one only NFL team in their state, AND to have a market encompassing how many OTHER states?! I know the NFL has tried to address the market inequality issue, but here's hoping that Marrone is the coach who can finally do more with a whole lot less ...($). Edited January 14, 2013 by Yonder_d7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I hope Robert Kraft, Tom Brady, Bill Bellicheat, Brandon Spikes, Jerod Mayo, Gronk, Hernandez, Wilfork all die of syphillis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 18 people live in new hampshire vermont and maine combined. Four of them dont have TVs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 18 people live in new hampshire vermont and maine combined. Four of them dont have TVs lol this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephfrei Posted January 14, 2013 Author Share Posted January 14, 2013 18 people live in new hampshire vermont and maine combined. Four of them dont have TVs I can imagine people saying something similar about what we have here...(Buffalo, Rochester, and ?). Then there's Connecticut/Rhode Island which probably figure in to some some degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellDressed Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I'd rather see them die of typhus. I hope Robert Kraft, Tom Brady, Bill Bellicheat, Brandon Spikes, Jerod Mayo, Gronk, Hernandez, Wilfork all die of syphillis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I'd rather see them die of typhus. My vote is for scarlet fever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I'd rather see them die of typhus. either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Lets tag this thread for when Bellicheat discards Brady for being too old and we gobble him up for the downside of his career a la Bledsoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I really hope so actually. Not because I want him. I know it would make him suffer not having nice places to go out to in Buffalo. Would be great to see him suffer in any way possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I really hope so actually. Not because I want him. I know it would make him suffer not having nice places to go out to in Buffalo. Would be great to see him suffer in any way possible. The cherry on the parfait would be Brady in Buffalo and Giselle in a brown banlon pantsuit leading a revised version of "Talkin' Proud." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Interesting data from Sports Stats Overload: Top 5 Smallest NFL TV Markets 1. Green Bay - Market #70. Definitely has to be one of the early teams, because no way in the world would the NFL go into market #70. 2. New Orleans - Market #53. Pre-Katrina, New Orleans was in the mid-40s of market size. 3. Buffalo - Market #51. Buffalo has slowly slid down the ranker. 4. Jacksonville - Market #47. When Jacksonville joined the league in 1995, they were the second smallest NFL market. Combine Jacksonville's growth with Katrina, and Buffalo's shrinkage, and now they're 4. 5. Cincinnati - #34 - Not showing much growth, but will not be passed by any of the smaller four anytime soon. Interesting that the last two Super Bowl champs are from the SMALLEST markets. While we're at it, the largest markets without an NFL team: #2 Los Angeles - well-documented lack of passion for NFL; this is the new go-to town when teams threaten to leave. #19 Orlando - With three teams already in Florida, and, those three not showing the overwhelming desire to sell out their stadiums, Orlando does not foresee any NFL-ing. #20 Sacramento - The California state capitol is two hours from Bay Area that hosts two teams (Niners and Raiders). #22 Portland - Portlanders have shown interest, giving the NFL the nudge that they are interested in becoming home to a team. Those NFL wheels turn slowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Why read articles written by writers from Boston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Yawn. people really need to get over their self esteem issues. Pats rule, Bills drool... until proven otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Here's more arrogance from Boston area writers. This is in response to the Bills related link from TBD Jan. 13, 2013 (go there for full story) : Doug Marrone might pay off for the Bills http://bostonglobe.c...VfGL/story.html Does it ever occur to anyone what nice little financial advantage, fair or unfair, it still is to have not just a behemoth-sized urban market to pull from (Boston), but also be the one only NFL team in their state, AND to have a market encompassing how many OTHER states?! I know the NFL has tried to address the market inequality issue, but here's hoping that Marrone is the coach who can finally do more with a whole lot less ...($). Wait, I thought the Toronto/Ontario/Buffalo/Rochester market was top 5? And how is it that Marrone has "a whole lot less....$" to work with than other teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsp08 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Pats time will come to an end, once Brady retires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobinaz Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Here's hoping to a Ravens win next week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Wait, I thought the Toronto/Ontario/Buffalo/Rochester market was top 5? IIRC, market size generally only takes US figures into consideration. If the US-Canada border were only a state border, then the Bills would be close to top 5 in market size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Brady will be 36 next year is he going to play at 39-40-41 like Farve ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Yawn. people really need to get over their self esteem issues. Pats rule, Bills drool... until proven otherwise. This^ Really didn't see anything worse than what I read here about the Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 My vote is for scarlet fever. They'd write a book about a rabbit & make a fortune, so it's a no go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 IIRC, market size generally only takes US figures into consideration. If the US-Canada border were only a state border, then the Bills would be close to top 5 in market size. Point is the OP is moaning about "small markets". Buffalo is no longer such, since Ralph "regionalized" them with the Toronto deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephfrei Posted January 14, 2013 Author Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) Interesting data from Sports Stats Overload: Top 5 Smallest NFL TV Markets 1. Green Bay - Market #70. Definitely has to be one of the early teams, because no way in the world would the NFL go into market #70. 2. New Orleans - Market #53. Pre-Katrina, New Orleans was in the mid-40s of market size. 3. Buffalo - Market #51. Buffalo has slowly slid down the ranker. 4. Jacksonville - Market #47. When Jacksonville joined the league in 1995, they were the second smallest NFL market. Combine Jacksonville's growth with Katrina, and Buffalo's shrinkage, and now they're 4. 5. Cincinnati - #34 - Not showing much growth, but will not be passed by any of the smaller four anytime soon. Interesting that the last two Super Bowl champs are from the SMALLEST markets. While we're at it, the largest markets without an NFL team: #2 Los Angeles - well-documented lack of passion for NFL; this is the new go-to town when teams threaten to leave. #19 Orlando - With three teams already in Florida, and, those three not showing the overwhelming desire to sell out their stadiums, Orlando does not foresee any NFL-ing. #20 Sacramento - The California state capitol is two hours from Bay Area that hosts two teams (Niners and Raiders). #22 Portland - Portlanders have shown interest, giving the NFL the nudge that they are interested in becoming home to a team. Those NFL wheels turn slowly. 1. Green Bay - Market #70. So does this mean the entire state of Wisconsin; because I don't know if anyone even lives in Green Bay itself. And as far as small market teams having enough financial support & not just surviving but being competitive on average, Green Bay does NOT count. That franchise is a very unique case in pro FOOTBALL; you can't expect any fan-base to go to such extremes as Packer fans have historically; and no way in any amount of years does the NFL let that club fold. Yes, it's always nice to see smaller market teams go all the way; and hopefully this is something that'll continue to improve (which is what's good for the NFL now at this point in time -- that every team/market has that chance realistically to be competitive on average). But, then again, take a further look at the teams winning championships or even more importantly who's been able to be competitive more so than not in pro FOOTBALL (the most expensive sport in which to do so) in the last decade or so. Pittsburgh would be the most impressive club in terms of superbowls; but I still don't see that the competitive gap between large and small market NFL teams has shrunk enough, yet. I'm not sure about you, but I'm so bored with NEW YORK and BOSTON winning championships in football &/or whatever sport in most years. Edited January 14, 2013 by Yonder_d7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 18 people live in new hampshire vermont and maine combined. Four of them dont have TVs That's not fair, because you have all these people in Albany why are Giants fans, as stupid as that sounds to me... the Giants and Jets don't even PLAY in New York State....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephfrei Posted January 14, 2013 Author Share Posted January 14, 2013 Wait, I thought the Toronto/Ontario/Buffalo/Rochester market was top 5? And how is it that Marrone has "a whole lot less....$" to work with than other teams? Buffalo in the Top 5 ___?? Buffalo, New York? Yeah, I mean correct me if this isn't the case, but it's a fair shake teams in NYC, BOSTON-erNewEng-LAND, DC, frigin DALLAS ---you know all those mega metropolises are able to routinely get their hands on more money way beyond whatever revenue sharing systems the NFL has in place. Not that I'm saying it's dirty, or even if the NFL can do anything more about it. It would've been nice, at least in the Bills & maybe Dolphins case, had the article in mention at least acknowledged that this might of played some role in he decade-plus of success the Pats have enjoyed & numerous firing of coaches the rest of the division has seen. Had Brady /Belichick been in Buffalo this whole time, they would've gone to 1 or 2 Superbowls. Not 5 and counting. Keep in mind the years of Buffalo's 4 Superbowls (no wins) were almost all before free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephfrei Posted January 14, 2013 Author Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) Dr. Trooth Posted Yesterday, 09:00 PM Yawn. people really need to get over their self esteem issues. Pats rule, Bills drool... until proven otherwise. This^ Really didn't see anything worse than what I read here about the Bills I don't know if I've come across this before, but the link on TBD to the fore mentioned Boston Globe article is now pay-to-read only. That never happens for the Buffalo News or the D&C, but whatev.... It's not what it said about the bills or anyone per se; but seemed pretty smug without giving a thought to any financial concerns. As for "self esteem" issues.....here's also hoping it does NOT take either Brady or Belichick to get old and retire before the Buffalo Bills at least win this damn division !!! Edited January 14, 2013 by Yonder_d7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Brady will be 36 next year is he going to play at 39-40-41 like Farve ? Would not surprise me. Brady is very competitive and I've heard some interviews where he says that he still has a lot to prove. Now whether he is still with the Patriots when he gets to be that age is anyone's guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephfrei Posted January 14, 2013 Author Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) I caught this much though, from the Globe... Patriots thrash the hapless Houston Texans The Patriots defeated the Texans, 41-28, in the first de facto preseason playoff game in NFL history to move on and face the Ravens in the AFC title game. STORY 1 OF 15 READ FULL STORY ... So much for that one 52-3 outing someone had in the AFC title game against the L.A. Raiders (sans Bo Jackson). Edited January 14, 2013 by Yonder_d7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I'd rather see them die of typhus. Ebola all the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griz Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 This is exactly why most of the country hates the Patriots. Sure, they are good... but the smug arrogance and cry baby persona really defines them to everyone other than NFL announcers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Here's hoping to a Ravens win next week! Actually I'd like to see them get to the SB and lose, giving them the most SB loses of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Cain Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 New England won't win with old man Brady. They suffered tons of injuries yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never NEVER Give-up Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 It wasn't but a few short years ago that we were laughing at the Pats. We were riding high with Kelly & Levy and they were falling all over themselves. Now they have Brady & Belechick and they are ruling the roost. It's a QB league and when we find one, we'll be back - but it's a lot easier said than done. I really admire (& am jealous of) what Wash did last year - going after RGIII - Now they are set at QB (if he's not killed) for 10 yrs. The Bills need to ID their guy and go after him - it'll cost a lot, but they need to go get him and then shore up the LB corps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thisistheyear Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Yawn. people really need to get over their self esteem issues. Pats rule, Bills drool... until proven otherwise. Exactly. If our skin gets any thinner we'll be Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickenbru Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 My vote is for scarlet fever. Dysentery would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Here's hoping to a Ravens win next week! Probably true but look at the lucky stick Indy was hit with. Pun intended. This still makes me sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 It wasn't but a few short years ago that we were laughing at the Pats. We were riding high with Kelly & Levy and they were falling all over themselves. Now they have Brady & Belechick and they are ruling the roost. It's a QB league and when we find one, we'll be back - but it's a lot easier said than done. I really admire (& am jealous of) what Wash did last year - going after RGIII - Now they are set at QB (if he's not killed) for 10 yrs. The Bills need to ID their guy and go after him - it'll cost a lot, but they need to go get him and then shore up the LB corps. RGIII might never have the same speed after this injury. He could lose his burst which will kill his value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousetrap08 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I hope Robert Kraft, Tom Brady, Bill Bellicheat, Brandon Spikes, Jerod Mayo, Gronk, Hernandez, Wilfork all die of syphillis. Dieing is to good for these steaming piles of pig They shoud be hung upside down by thier from the highest flagpole in Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Buffalo in the Top 5 ___?? Buffalo, New York? Yeah, I mean correct me if this isn't the case, but it's a fair shake teams in NYC, BOSTON-erNewEng-LAND, DC, frigin DALLAS ---you know all those mega metropolises are able to routinely get their hands on more money way beyond whatever revenue sharing systems the NFL has in place. Not that I'm saying it's dirty, or even if the NFL can do anything more about it. It would've been nice, at least in the Bills & maybe Dolphins case, had the article in mention at least acknowledged that this might of played some role in he decade-plus of success the Pats have enjoyed & numerous firing of coaches the rest of the division has seen. What on earth are you babbling about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Isn't revenue sharing plan th eNFL has supposed to mitigate this?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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