filthymcnasty08 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Just tracking an interesting player that can go at any pick from here on in.....or not at all. What do you think? I got Arizona at 151 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 It would be sweet if Barnett calls them and says that he'll take the kid and put him under his wing and make him his shadow and then we use the 7th rounder on him if still there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Hate to see talented kids who throw it all away.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I got a feeling Baltimore will pick him in the 4th with their comp pick. Ray Lewis will probably make a similar phone call. Ravens love mean athletic LBs. Lewis can pull him in under his wing. Not sure about Barnett, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robkmil Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I got a feeling Baltimore will pick him in the 4th with their comp pick. Ray Lewis will probably make a similar phone call. Ravens love mean athletic LBs. Lewis can pull him in under his wing. Not sure about Barnett, maybe. I'll take a flyer in the 6th on him. A lot of talent to look past and a 7th you don't expect to make the team anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Belucheese Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I would love if Bills take him in the 3rd or 4th. He would the mean and nasty that is missing from our linebackers. I was man crushing on the Kuelchy guy and bummed he went but this Burfict is bad ass and will make up for that. People can talk character all they want but Suh is a prime example how important it is to have mean on D. We need to strike fear in our opponents hearts and get that reputation rather than be AFC welcoming mats. Ppl will pretend that Stevie was outta line w his antics but the upper brass knows that it was swag confidence that he was displaying in a very cruel violent game. So i want some of that on defense. We shudda never let Incognito go either lol. Our gentlemen days need to be over. We dont need rotary club guys.Plus we all love the sleeper value. MAKE BURFICT A BILL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Just tracking an interesting player that can go at any pick from here on in.....or not at all. What do you think? I got Arizona at 151 I say Saskatchewan in the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playman Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I say Saskatchewan in the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 It is hilarious how so many board experts wanted him in the first. Every team has passed on him, what, 3 times now? He has potential, he has ability, but he is as likely another Maybin as he is...well, another Maybin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playman Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 nope. maybin was talked up. burfict otoh worked his way down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 he will be undrafted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted April 28, 2012 Author Share Posted April 28, 2012 he will be undrafted Amazing....a one-time mid-late first round lock Has there ever been a bigger fall from grace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Just tracking an interesting player that can go at any pick from here on in.....or not at all. What do you think? I got Arizona at 151 I think he'll be undrafted, myself. But the Stillers might take him. It is hilarious how so many board experts wanted him in the first. Every team has passed on him, what, 3 times now? He has potential, he has ability, but he is as likely another Maybin as he is...well, another Maybin. Rarely disagree with you, but do here. Apples and Oranges comparison. No one has questioned Maybin's willingness to work hard, and I never heard of him goofing off, getting into trouble, or having problems governing his temper. The problem with Maybin is that we drafted a situational speed pass rusher expecting him to be an all-around DE or OLB, when he was clearly undersized and lacked those skills. Burfict, on the other hand, clearly has the skills, it's his willingness to work hard, show team-spirit, govern his temper, and stay out of trouble that's the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I think he'll be undrafted, myself. But the Stillers might take him. Rarely disagree with you, but do here. Apples and Oranges comparison. No one has questioned Maybin's willingness to work hard, and I never heard of him goofing off, getting into trouble, or having problems governing his temper. The problem with Maybin is that we drafted a situational speed pass rusher expecting him to be an all-around DE or OLB, when he was clearly undersized and lacked those skills. Burfict, on the other hand, clearly has the skills, it's his willingness to work hard, show team-spirit, govern his temper, and stay out of trouble that's the question. Having seen him play several times personally, I think your undrafted prediction might be on the mark. The hype doesn't match what I saw, but others can have their own opinions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCity Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Burfict showed his colors in the last game of the year at ASU when he sat and sulked with a towel over his head after playing horribly, forcing his biggest proponent, Dennis Erickson, to sit him out. He has talent and had some immense hits in his career, but he is known as a headcase. All that being said, I have read a few pieces stating that he is working to change his attitude, dedicating himself to training and working with the right people to change the way he approaches the game and life. I'd take a flyer in the 7th, but no way I'd use a pick any earlier than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zona Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 You guys know he failed his drug test at the combine, righf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I think picking Bradham puts a nail in the coffin of any discussion of the Bills taking Burfict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I think picking Bradham puts a nail in the coffin of any discussion of the Bills taking Burfict. Can hear the shovel of dirt hitting the pine boards, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I would love if Bills take him in the 3rd or 4th. He would the mean and nasty that is missing from our linebackers. I was man crushing on the Kuelchy guy and bummed he went but this Burfict is bad ass and will make up for that. People can talk character all they want but Suh is a prime example how important it is to have mean on D. We need to strike fear in our opponents hearts and get that reputation rather than be AFC welcoming mats. Ppl will pretend that Stevie was outta line w his antics but the upper brass knows that it was swag confidence that he was displaying in a very cruel violent game. So i want some of that on defense. We shudda never let Incognito go either lol. Our gentlemen days need to be over. We dont need rotary club guys.Plus we all love the sleeper value. MAKE BURFICT A BILL! How would we draft him in the 3rd round it was yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Rarely disagree with you, but do here. Apples and Oranges comparison. No one has questioned Maybin's willingness to work hard, and I never heard of him goofing off, getting into trouble, or having problems governing his temper. The problem with Maybin is that we drafted a situational speed pass rusher expecting him to be an all-around DE or OLB, when he was clearly undersized and lacked those skills. Burfict, on the other hand, clearly has the skills, it's his willingness to work hard, show team-spirit, govern his temper, and stay out of trouble that's the question. Apples and oranges maybe on who the player is but what the player is capable of is the same. Maybin's biggest argument was that he was young and developing those tools, his upside was way too high to no fall in love with him. He'd pack on the pounds, he'd get bigger, stronger and more able bodied. He had to overcome something to be the player that he should have become. Burfict is the exact same thing; an uphill battle. Off the field is not relevant to what he is on the field. Maybin had to overcome his size, Burfict his temper. Maybin develop his skillset, Burfict his demeanor and work habit. Both players will likely never meet their expectations because so many expected so much of them and so many expected so little; liekly both of them will fall somewhere between the middle. Maybin could very well be a Todd Collins career type player, or more relevant, Jim Jeffcoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Amazing....a one-time mid-late first round lock Has there ever been a bigger fall from grace? The QB Snead who left early thinking he was a 1st rounder (thanks to Todd McShay) and didn't get drafted. And I agree. I won't spend a draft pick on VB. I guess I'd sign him as an UDFA but I'm not 100% sure on that. He is bad news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Take him in the 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quester74 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Take him in the 5th I agree.. it's a 5th rounder. Little risk, huge potential reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless Ike Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 He was never a first round talent to begin with...If he didn't have all that baggage he was a mid-round pick. I watched a ton of Pac-12 games and he was a big highlight reel hitter and that's about it. Just because his highlights make it onto sports center doesn't mean he's worth a damn. Throw his personality issues into the mix and i think a late round pick is just about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Toronto Argonauts round 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbills315 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 thats it lets use a 7rd on him if he pans out he is a steal if not ohh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 (edited) Udfa bengals. What a fitting end. Let's See the mentoring begin. Either he had zero options, or he just doesn't get that he needs to find somewhere boring to be and hone his craft with strong mentors and hard workers. That front 7 is about the worst group I could see him running with. Not to mention some of the drug issues that locker room has seen coupled with his own. Edited April 29, 2012 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Amazing....a one-time mid-late first round lock Has there ever been a bigger fall from grace? uh Ya. Ryan Leaf comes to mind. JaMarcus Russel was out of the league in 3 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Has there ever been a bigger fall from grace? There were high hopes for Skooby when he first registered to our board but he flamed out rather spectacularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 (edited) You guys know he failed his drug test at the combine, righf? I didn't actually. I made my "undrafted" prediction based entirely on his behavior on and off the field. That being the case, it's really too bad for him that he went to the Bengals. Not exactly a clean nurturing environment. Edited April 29, 2012 by Hopeful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Udfa bengals. What a fitting end. Let's See the mentoring begin. Either he had zero options, or he just doesn't get that he needs to find somewhere boring to be and hone his craft with strong mentors and hard workers. That front 7 is about the worst group I could see him running with. Not to mention some of the drug issues that locker room has seen coupled with his own. Yeah, they'll be a great calming influence on the kid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 uh Ya. Ryan Leaf comes to mind. JaMarcus Russel was out of the league in 3 years Think he might have meant one-time top draft prospects who went undrafted Leaf and Russell would fall into the related, but different category of "one-time top first round draft picks who flamed out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I didn't actually. I made my "undrafted" prediction based entirely on his behavior on and off the field. That being the case, it's really too bad for him that he went to the Bengals. Not exactly a clean nurturing environment. JayRon Hosley flunked the drug test as well. He got drafted in the 3rd. Burfict had an extraordinary flame out. On field problems, off field problems, terrible combine, carcinogenic interviews... the Bengals might've been the only team that called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 There were high hopes for Skooby when he first registered to our board but he flamed out rather spectacularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 There were high hopes for Skooby when he first registered to our board but he flamed out rather spectacularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAWNDO Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 There were high hopes for Skooby when he first registered to our board but he flamed out rather spectacularly. Well played sir!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) He was never a first round talent to begin with...If he didn't have all that baggage he was a mid-round pick. I watched a ton of Pac-12 games and he was a big highlight reel hitter and that's about it. Just because his highlights make it onto sports center doesn't mean he's worth a damn. Throw his personality issues into the mix and i think a late round pick is just about right. The worst thing to happen to Burfict was Erickson. Erickson is one of the worst coaches I've ever seen that keeps getting HC gigs. I'm an ASU grad and these few seasons under Erickson were painful with some of the stupidest, most undisciplined football I've seen at any level. While Erickson was Burfict's biggest proponent I think he was also his biggest enabler. I don't see much more than a group of enablers in Cincinattica so he will probably be out of the league in a year. Edited April 30, 2012 by SACTOBILLSFAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 The worst thing to happen to Burfict was Erickson. Erickson is one of the worst coaches I've ever seen that keeps getting HC gigs. I'm an ASU grad and these few seasons under Erickson were painful with some of the stupidest, most undisciplined football I've seen at any level. While Erickson was Burfict's biggest proponent I think he was also his biggest enabler. I don't see much more than a group of enablers in Cincinattica so he will probably be out of the league in a year. Must agree here. Erickson seems to care way more about himself than his players. This is going way back to the hurricane days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) There were high hopes for Skooby when he first registered to our board but he flamed out rather spectacularly. I disagree. Skooby was a real dog. I never liked his pedigree... Edited April 30, 2012 by ExWNYer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted April 30, 2012 Author Share Posted April 30, 2012 Think he might have meant one-time top draft prospects who went undrafted Leaf and Russell would fall into the related, but different category of "one-time top first round draft picks who flamed out" Yes, correct.... Leaf is probably the biggest draft BUST of all time. Burfict could be the biggest pre-draft swoon of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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