5 Wide Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I just wonder how brain dead McKelvin must really be if he can't maintain focus with thousands of people watching him. I mean we all daydream a bit at our desks now and then, but if 70,000 people were watching me create a report, I wouldn't just start staring at the wall. His performance goes well beyond simple "football IQ", his actions out there are just inexplicable at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 This is sounding suprisingly "Maybinesque" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBD Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 If McLuvin is so bad, why is he on the opposing team's #1 (and not Florence)? They don't swap sides, McKelvin plays left and Florence plays right. Not saying it's how it should be done, but it's why he was on AJ Green in some instances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taglientep Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 He needs to have some adjustments. I dont necessarily blame him 100%, the coaching staff needs to work with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 His coverage was generally good. He just lost every battle for the jump ball. What is it? Heart? Desire? What? Â He doesn't turn his head and look for the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffery Lester Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I wonder if he needs/ or wheres glasses/contacts. This seems to be his major flaw. Spotting/Seeing the football. He got totally lost on that lollypop completion to A.J. Green. Not trying to be funny. being serious here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_franchise Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 If you have made the assessment that he is about as bright as a empty glowstick from the plays he makes (or fails to) then you must have never listened to him speak. That is almost as ugly as his play. There is a reason you never see a video of him on bb.com anymore. Another guy on our roster that I hope figures it out but..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsrhody Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 McKelvin has been burned on more than one occasion this year, but it seems to me that on almost everyone of those plays, there has been a safety that should have been over the top to knock some of those balls down. Has anyone else noticed this? Â McKelvin sucks.. but I dont think he's getting too much help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishP Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 We should just make drayton the #1 cb until McGee comes back put mckelvin on the number 2 he's to much of a liability sometimes...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb62 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 He'salways going for the interception in stead of just knocking it away, I've yet to see him defend a fly route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I hate the constant Buffalo bashing of first round picks but McKelvin is not suited for starting corner. The only thing that is making him barely serviceable now IS his athleticism. He is frequently a step or 5 behind. He can't out play WR in the air on jump balls and he buys double moves like they were on discount a Walmart. We need McGee back in a really big way.  I can't believe I am actually going to say this after the last 15 years but we REALLY need to draft a CB perhaps in the first round.  Terrence McGee: 30yrs old and can't stay healthy Drayton Florence: 30yrs old Leodis McKelvin: 26yrs no head for the gave Aaron Williams: 21yrs Too early to tell  We are 1 more injury away from blowing several games. IMO if we had McGee in the Cincy game it would have been a different story. Well, that and if we didn't get jobbed on 3 missed pass interference calls, an on field overturn and failed challenge of what was obviously a SJ catch and a tuck rule call that erased a pickup 6.  We need some talent AND youth at the CB position. McKelvin should have already "figured it out" going into his 4th year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I hate the constant Buffalo bashing of first round picks but McKelvin is not suited for starting corner. The only thing that is making him barely serviceable now IS his athleticism. He is frequently a step or 5 behind. He can't out play WR in the air on jump balls and he buys double moves like they were on discount a Walmart. We need McGee back in a really big way.  I can't believe I am actually going to say this after the last 15 years but we REALLY need to draft a CB perhaps in the first round.  Terrence McGee: 30yrs old and can't stay healthy Drayton Florence: 30yrs old Leodis McKelvin: 26yrs no head for the gave Aaron Williams: 21yrs Too early to tell  We are 1 more injury away from blowing several games. IMO if we had McGee in the Cincy game it would have been a different story. Well, that and if we didn't get jobbed on 3 missed pass interference calls, an on field overturn and failed challenge of what was obviously a SJ catch and a tuck rule call that erased a pickup 6.  We need some talent AND youth at the CB position. McKelvin should have already "figured it out" going into his 4th year. Unfortunately we have only 2 and a half good players on our D front 7. So--due to many years of poor drafting we can't afford to go after another corner. We need a front 7 player in the first round again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Blizzard Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 11th overall. Dick Jauron, the gift that keeps on giving! Â Ugh. We still have a couple years to deal with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Great athletic skills. Â Not smart + no football savvy = rarely in position to make a play. Therefore not a play maker. Â I'll go one step further ....... he has zero, I mean ZERO ball skills and even worse awareness. I was literally screaming at the TV while the ball was in the air to Green for McKelvin to TURN AROUND. He has no sense of timing and no body control, such that he literally throws himself at the receiver (or in some other direction) after the catch is being made. Â I think this nightmare of a CB is going to be a wet dream for all opposing OCs this year.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 He'salways going for the interception in stead of just knocking it away, I've yet to see him defend a fly route and when it is obvious that he isn't going to get the ball, he is out of position to make a quick tackle, so the receiver gets away for a long ground gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatedolphins Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 His coverage was generally good. He just lost every battle for the jump ball. What is it? Heart? Desire? What?   He seems to lack awareness of where the ball is going  But then, what do I know as I sit in my chair and overeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I read somewhere ,that he has L.D. For real. Anyone else read this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatedolphins Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I read somewhere ,that he has L.D. For real. Anyone else read this ?  I think it is best for a cover corner to be not only LD, but down right stupid  It's best not to over think something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 He may be athletically gifted, but he's a freaking dumbass. He was a dumbass when he ran the ball out of the endzone and he's a dumbass now. Â What was his wonder lick score? Troy State ain't in the Ivy League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatedolphins Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 What was his wonder lick score? Troy State ain't in the Ivy League.   Troy state is rather heavy with the on-line stuff  Like Phoenix On-line or ITT with a football team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan in n.h Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 11th overall. Dick Jauron, the gift that keeps on giving! good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meark Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 It seems to me he doesn't even make most jumps.. he doesn't even know where the ball is most of the time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFFacet Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Great athletic skills. Â Not smart + no football savvy = rarely in position to make a play. Therefore not a play maker. Â Actually he's pretty much always in position to make a play. He just never makes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrules Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 If you have made the assessment that he is about as bright as a empty glowstick from the plays he makes (or fails to) then you must have never listened to him speak. That is almost as ugly as his play. There is a reason you never see a video of him on bb.com anymore. Another guy on our roster that I hope figures it out but..... Â Â Thanks for answering that question. I have never seen McKelvin interviewed and always assumed there was a reason why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Actually he's pretty much always in position to make a play. He just never makes it. Â Truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoto Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I can't get passed the dropped punt that cost us the Monday Night game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Truth. He's been beaten cleanly plenty of times this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Guy pl;ayed at a small time football school and was drafted based on his combine workout. Great athlete , not a great football player, obviously. Can he learn to be? Not sure anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) Unfortunately we have only 2 and a half good players on our D front 7. So--due to many years of poor drafting we can't afford to go after another corner. We need a front 7 player in the first round again. Â I think corner is shaping up to be our biggest off season need for the reasons I stated but I certainly wouldn't complain if we got another guy for the defensive trenches. Merriman is a non factor so far and Kelsay is just ok. Carrington, Edwards Troup? Role players so far. Nothing special that I see there. I would still love for us to get a stud NT and kick KW out to DE. I know he does a great job where he is but a dominant nose tackle might allow Dareus and Williams to wreak havock in the backfield. I feel KW would be much better used as a penetrating 3 - 4 DE instead of an active NT. Â That being said I think our lack of youth and talent at the CB position has really lost some games for us. If I have to see McKelvin turned around one more time by a rookie WR or looking into the backfield while getting burned on yet another double move I will scream. Perhaps it's not 100% his fault because often times I see the safety get there late as well. Maybe it is a communication issue but it's not correct right now and it needs to be fixed. Edited October 5, 2011 by PDaDdy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 The Raiders threw to his side all game and it was painfully obvious that Cincinnati did the same when they needed yards. It was like a guaranteed 1st down and possible long ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 If you actually wanted to be fair and accurate about McKelvin's play this year, you'd say that he played well in the first game, was horrible against the Raiders, improved against the Patriots, and was not up to the assignment of covering AJ Green… the second coming of Megatron. As much as anything, McKelvin couldn't make up for the size mismatch.  Three catches Green made and the one TD to Gresham that was caught over George Wilson were amazing throws and catches.  While no one wants to, you do actually have to give the other team credit on a few plays each game, even though we all know that when the other team succeeds it's almost always due to a failure on the part of the Bills.  That Cincinnati team is no joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 good one  Well, DJ was coach when we drafted Stevie Johnson and Kyle Williams. And John Guy was around when the bills signed Ryan Fitzpatrick. Just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 p.s.-- That bomb that Jason Campbell completed to Denarius Moore to tie the Oakland game was a great play. Perfectly placed pass, incredible catch.  Well, DJ was coach when we drafted Stevie Johnson and Kyle Williams. And John Guy was around when the bills signed Ryan Fitzpatrick. Just sayin'  "Just sayin" what?  That even a blind squirrel… that even a broken clock?  Don't understand what point you're trying to make.   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickedface Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 it doesn't help that most of the wr's put on him are like a foot taller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 He's been beaten cleanly plenty of times this year. Â Well, I'll give you that, too. Basically, he's either beaten cleanly, or he's in position to make a play and screws it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 What was his wonder lick score? Troy State ain't in the Ivy League. Â "wonder lick" - is that how you apply a postage stamp? Â it's Wonderlic ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 If you actually wanted to be fair and accurate about McKelvin's play this year, you'd say that he played well in the first game, was horrible against the Raiders, improved against the Patriots, and was not up to the assignment of covering AJ Green… the second coming of Megatron. As much as anything, McKelvin couldn't make up for the size mismatch.  Three catches Green made and the one TD to Gresham that was caught over George Wilson were amazing throws and catches.  While no one wants to, you do actually have to give the other team credit on a few plays each game, even though we all know that when the other team succeeds it's almost always due to a failure on the part of the Bills.  That Cincinnati team is no joke.  It's not that AJ Green made those catches... it's how he made those catches. If he out-leaped or out-battled for the ball, that would be one thing. The problem is half the time McKelvin didn't even know the ball was coming or what the receiver was doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 It's not that AJ Green made those catches... it's how he made those catches. If he out-leaped or out-battled for the ball, that would be one thing. The problem is half the time McKelvin didn't even know the ball was coming or what the receiver was doing. [/quote  perfect assessment, you nailed it ! It's the lack of awareness that is killing McKelvin - how about if he tries to read the receiver's eyes - wouldn't this be helpful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 If you have made the assessment that he is about as bright as a empty glowstick from the plays he makes (or fails to) then you must have never listened to him speak. That is almost as ugly as his play. There is a reason you never see a video of him on bb.com anymore. Another guy on our roster that I hope figures it out but..... Â Â Gotta love when fans get personal with players. Classy. I'm willing to bet I graduated from a better school than you. Does that mean I should look down at you? Personal attacks on people you don't know are pretty pathetic. Â As for McKelvin, he has all the physical talent to be a top shutdown corner in the NFL. He shut down Calvin Johnson in college. Playing cornerback in the NFL is arguably the most physically tough position to play in the league. Anything you do is a penalty. McKelvin has had his ups (Pats, Chiefs) and downs. Also, some of those catches were flat out insane. He may not be an all pro, but he's not close to the bum some of you make him out to be. Â Face it. The league doesn't want defenses to succeed. That's why points and yards at an all time high. Defenses are supposed to look bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 The Raiders threw to his side all game and it was painfully obvious that Cincinnati did the same when they needed yards. It was like a guaranteed 1st down and possible long ball Unfortunately true. He is a liability out there. Leodis, turn around and look where the ball is ! Or when the reciever jumps for the ball with oustretched arms, get your hands in their hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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