Special K Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I didn't know defenders weren't allowed to tackle a player in the field of play....who knew. Horrible call, but in the end it didn't hurt the Bills, thanks to Bryan Scott's awesome INT. That can't really be a penalty right.....when are they going to start playing two hand touch?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I don't understand what tge defender is supposed to do there...welker can't the ball n Byrd made a solid tackle preventing any additional yardage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 It is a strange call. Don't understand that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Horrible call. One of many today, but hey let's enjoy this one! Keep it positive posters. Best game I've seen in a week! Lol- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted September 25, 2011 Author Share Posted September 25, 2011 Horrible call. One of many today, but hey let's enjoy this one! Keep it positive posters. Best game I've seen in a week! Lol- Oh, I'm positive on the Bills, but I'm also positive that was a ridiculous call!! Go Bills!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Can only assume that they presumed helmet to helmet. Replay clearly showed me that not only did Byrd lead with his shoulder, the initial hit was at/below the shoulders. Terrigle call. But...the PI call in our favor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRW Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Can only assume that they presumed helmet to helmet. Replay clearly showed me that not only did Byrd lead with his shoulder, the initial hit was at/below the shoulders. Terrigle call. But...the PI call in our favor? Which one? The one where the DB ran square into Nelson in the end zone? That one was so obvious any refs would've had to call it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Which one? The one where the DB ran square into Nelson in the end zone? That one was so obvious any refs would've had to call it. Flag wouldn't have left my pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I didn't know defenders weren't allowed to tackle a player in the field of play....who knew. Horrible call, but in the end it didn't hurt the Bills, thanks to Bryan Scott's awesome INT. That can't really be a penalty right.....when are they going to start playing two hand touch?? Pretty simple...it looked helmet to helmet in live action and you cant over turn penalties on replay. And as soon as the hit occured I said I hope they dont throw a flag cuz that looked helmet to helmet. People at home forget that refs dont get replays, slow motion, various angles to determine penalties. All they have to go on is how they percieved it in live action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extrahammer Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 There were a few debatable helmet-to-helmet plays by the Pats the refs failed to call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Yeah, I can't argue too much on a win. But Byrd's tackle? From what I saw, it looked to be a textbook tackle. No helmet to helmet and he led with his shoulder. I just have to guess that the refs couldn't believe that anyone could tackle Welker in the open field fair and square. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Someone has a youtube video for this play: link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Flag wouldn't have left my pocket. Mine either. There's no way Nelson could've gotten back to that duck. Terrible call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Welker led with his helmet just as much. Byrd was trying to go mid-body in his initial take on the tackle. Welker simultaneously scrunched up his body, which lowered his helmet right into Byrd before Byrd could react. WW is a squirmy worm who scrunches and fools a defense into thinking the tackle's a sure thing... and then he explodes out of the scrunch and that's how he gets 1/4 of his yardage. (Not knocking Welker by any means with that; he's a hell of an athlete!) No doubt that helmet-to-helmet happened, but it was incidental, not intentional. Funny thing, tho, that if I'm forced to point to a single moment in the game, it seemed to be the play where the momentum shifted. The Pats were like 'Sh--, these guys are for real and they're bringin' it!' Then again, this is the Pats* and Welker so I fully expect a large fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 A "defenseless receiver?" Holy spit, these refs are idiots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.cooldude Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 The penalty called wasn't a helmet to helmet. The penalty was one of the newer pro-passing penalties. It was something along the lines of hitting a defenseless receiver. Welker was blindsided but I was under the impression that when they made that rule it was intended to apply only to receivers in mid-air but honestly I'm not that familiar with the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 (edited) Ive been vocal in the other helmet-to-helmet threads, and usually critical of the DBs for the way they (dont) tackle. But that was a great tackle by Byrd. He came in at perfect level, slid, wrapped, and drove. Im not sure what else youre supposed to do against a 5'9" guy who ducks... But again, its the Pats. Youre not allowed to block them. Youre not allowed to tackle them. But they can do what they want. Edit: Even if it's defenseless receiver, he was already turned upfield, saw Byrd coming, and ducked for the hit. Hardly defenseless. See above. Bad call. Just like the many others in the game. Edited September 25, 2011 by DrDareustein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Flag wouldn't have left my pocket. Seriously? Man, all he didn't do was wrassle Nelson down and strip him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 The "defenseless receiver" rule is ONLY for an outstretched receiver, usually who doesn't catch the ball. Welker's play fit neither of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlegm Alley Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 (edited) Karma intruded and Brady threw the pick right afterwards. The refs thought it was a penalty, but the gods thought otherwise. Edited September 25, 2011 by Hurricane Ditka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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