Stl Bills Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Roster on BuffaloBills.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Why would it be a mistake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Why would it be a mistake? Â Wasn't he listed around 317 during the combine/end of season at Bama? 343 sounded very high to me. That's NT weight, not 3-4 DE weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureBillsGM Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Why would it be a mistake? Â Was wondering the same thing. He looks almost as big as Jasper at camp. The scary part is the way he moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 So long as it doesn't affect his agility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 The guy was listed at around 320+ in the draft. Its not impossible that he gained 20+ pounds but I don't think Dareus's playing weight was such in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 He'll lose ten pounds during camp easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Show me the baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobu Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Show me the baby. Â Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearc012 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 DE: Marcel Dareus 6'3'' 343 lbs Dwan Edwards 6'3'' 300 lbs Alex Carrington 6'5'' 304 lbs Spencer Johnson 6'3'' 306 lbs  NT: Kyle Williams 6'1'' 306 lbs Torrell Troup 6'3'' 315 lbs Leslie Michael Jasper 6'4'' 394 lbs  Good Lord that is a lot of beef. I can't remember seeing a group of DEs that large on any team. I hope it's all "good weight," especially Dareus and Jasper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 The bigger the better, I have been dreaming of getting back to the 34 since we went 43 (its my preferred Defense and was pissed when we changed) and now we finally have the horses to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott_36 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Very similar size as Haloti Ngata. He is listed at 6.4 350 and he plays DE for the Ravens. Â We can only hope Dareus turns out to be just as good! (I now it's old news but he is one guys we should have drafted ad discussed here many times) Â Really liking the future for our D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiebills Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 ^^^^^^ If Dareus plays Haloti Ngata i will be so happy and on the NT weight apparently Troup has put on muscle and is a lot stronger and is ripping it up in camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 DE: Marcel Dareus 6'3'' 343 lbs Dwan Edwards 6'3'' 300 lbs Alex Carrington 6'5'' 304 lbs Spencer Johnson 6'3'' 306 lbs  NT: Kyle Williams 6'1'' 306 lbs Torrell Troup 6'3'' 315 lbs Leslie Michael Jasper 6'4'' 394 lbs  Good Lord that is a lot of beef. I can't remember seeing a group of DEs that large on any team. I hope it's all "good weight," especially Dareus and Jasper. looks like carrington and spencer have both beefed up, i believe they were around the 275 lb range last year. i really hope that they do well as a unit this year. big and nasty sounds good to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playman Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 still think its 313. @ 343 hed be the nose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sllib olaffub Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 If he's that big and stays nearly that big, I wouldn't be surprised to see Williams and him switching positions eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombstone56 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 (edited) gotta be misprint he was 323 at bama ,but who knows, cutting lawns on a john deere isnt that good of a workout,,, now if hed of been using a pushmower,?,,lol Edited August 2, 2011 by tombstone56 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 His weight makes up for Maybin's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Maybe he ate Maybin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I could care less about any of their weights. Dareus putting on 25 lbs is literally a piece of cake for an athlete his size, especially with the offseason they just had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfish Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 When you're that big you've got about 15lbs that can be gained or lost rapidly. I'm not worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Roster on BuffaloBills.com  Wasn't he listed around 317 during the combine/end of season at Bama? 343 sounded very high to me. That's NT weight, not 3-4 DE weight. Yeah, when I had earlier mentioned that Dareus was listed at 343 (in the Maybin thread), I also mentioned that he weighed 319 at the combine.  When you're that big you've got about 15lbs that can be gained or lost rapidly. I'm not worried. Well, since the combine, he's increased his body weight by about 6%… similar to a 170 pound man gaining 10 pounds… so it's not a big deal but not insignificant either.  As to Aussiebills comment about Torrell Troup, I recall Troup had tweeted that he had gained about 10 pounds, but he's still listed at the same weight as last year, 315… even though Maybin's weight has been adjusted downwards… kinda odd to me.      Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 He's probably the fastest man at that size on the planet. As long as it doesnt slow him down, beef it up! Cant wait to see him and Williams on the line this year!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 He's probably the fastest man at that size on the planet. As long as it doesnt slow him down, beef it up! Cant wait to see him and Williams on the line this year!! Â Then again, it's not a playing weight that he should grow accustomed to. When Dareus is 27 instead of 21, 343 pounds is gonna be a lot more of a hassle. I suspect he'd operate better in t he 320 range for the long term. Â Totally agreed though. I'm very optimistic about our DL this year. I think our run defense is gonna go from worst to average, which will have a big ripple effect on the team's success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 (edited) I am more than fine with Dareus being that size...IF they play him at NT. Everyone loves KW, but he doesn't have the bulk to jam up the middle...Dareus does. Â Short arms or not, I think KW would do just fine at end. He's a beast. Plus they will surely be using pleny of 4-3, which means KW can play his more natural 4-3 penetrating DT position. Edited August 2, 2011 by Turbosrrgood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 (edited) I am more than fine with Dareus being that size...IF they play him at NT. Everyone loves KW, but he doesn't have the bulk to jam up the middle...Dareus does. Â Short arms or not, I think KW would do just fine at end. He's a beast. Plus they will surely be using pleny of 4-3, which means KW can play his more natural 4-3 penetrating DT position. Â I am sort of of the same mind. KW has proven me wrong his whole career and I now consider him a great asset instead of a guy that we needed to find better than. Â That being said I think that he made the most noise in the 4-3 alignment. He is a penetrating disrupter where as traditionally the 3-4 NT is a 2 gap plug the middle type guy. Even though he excels at his position in the 4-3 or the 3-4 I would like to see a bigger guy like the long shot Mike "Man Mountain" Jasper or a bulked up Torell Troup play the middle and have Kyle Williams and Marcell Dareus at the end positions. Â Can you imagine a defensive front left to right of Dareus, Jasper and Williams?!!?!? I am skeptical as hell but throw in a healthy Merriman on the edge....MY GOD! Forget about it!!! Edited August 2, 2011 by PDaDdy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted August 2, 2011 Author Share Posted August 2, 2011 gotta be misprint he was 323 at bama ,but who knows, cutting lawns on a john deere isnt that good of a workout,,, now if hed of been using a pushmower,?,,lol  He was listed at 306 at Bama....  http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/dareus_marcell00.html  The main reason I was surprised by the weight was that he weighed in a the combine at 319lbs.....  http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/marcell-dareus?id=2495478 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappy Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 You guys have underestimated the power of Duff's & the all you eat smorgs in town. MD will slim down during camp, probably 15-20 lbs easy. When your that size, one week of good eating / exercise = 10 lbs loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Then again, it's not a playing weight that he should grow accustomed to. When Dareus is 27 instead of 21, 343 pounds is gonna be a lot more of a hassle. I suspect he'd operate better in t he 320 range for the long term. Â Totally agreed though. I'm very optimistic about our DL this year. I think our run defense is gonna go from worst to average, which will have a big ripple effect on the team's success. Â Im not worried about his size because I think he's just the "next generation" of player. The game and players are constantly evolving, getting bigger and stronger. Kyle Williams outweighs our biggest DL from the Super Bowl era by about 40 pounds. Â That's another reason I love the way Buddy has drafted. Jauron was intent on getting smaller (which I will NEVER understand). Buddy has not only caught us up, but is pushing the envelope of big men. Â It will be interesting to see how these kids play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeChix Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Well, he was using one of those riding lawn mowers in the offseason. Not a push one. Jokes aside, I'm pretty sure that weight number is wrong. 343 or not, this dude is a beast. He put Urbik (a pretty big dude himself) on his ass in camp. Marcell is going to be an impact player this year kind of like Suh. He's not going to need a lot of time to develop. The similarities between the Bills D and Bama D are huge. His learning curve is going to be much less than the average D-Lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Maybe he ate Maybin i think the Bills may be trying something new, they will strap Maybin onto Dareus's back and he will ride Dareus into the backfield and then break off of him and go for the sack  Gailey is pretty good with the trick plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonster Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Maybe he ate Maybin Oh, the indigestaion alone could kill him. Shouldn't have to worry to much about Dareus testing positive for steroids then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 The bigger the better, I have been dreaming of getting back to the 34 since we went 43 (its my preferred Defense and was pissed when we changed) and now we finally have the horses to do it. Â "my preferred Defense" after studying all the complexities and nuances of the 3-4 vs. 4-3, and some hybrids of both, "my preferred Defense" is the one that doesn't allow the other team to score more points than our team does. I hope we have the right players for that system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 i think the Bills may be trying something new, they will strap Maybin onto Dareus's back and he will ride Dareus into the backfield and then break off of him and go for the sack  Gailey is pretty good with the trick plays  They ran this exact play at practice yesterday...  http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HI2zuNh7HD8/Td7JXIaFrGI/AAAAAAAAAg4/qSNsrcYjEzA/s1600/master-blaster.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 They ran this exact play at practice yesterday... Â http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HI2zuNh7HD8/Td7JXIaFrGI/AAAAAAAAAg4/qSNsrcYjEzA/s1600/master-blaster.jpg I knew it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 gotta be misprint he was 323 at bama ,but who knows, cutting lawns on a john deere isnt that good of a workout,,, now if hed of been using a pushmower,?,,lol  All of the DE's (but not the DT's) seem to be high. Possible misprint, possible weight gain. I'm rooting for misprint. Dareus was 319 at the combine. He didn't gain 24 lbs. of muscle since then.  People used to say "the bigger the better" about Mike Williams, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 (edited) I am sort of of the same mind. KW has proven me wrong his whole career and I now consider him a great asset instead of a guy that we needed to find better than. Â That being said I think that he made the most noise in the 4-3 alignment. He is a penetrating disrupter where as traditionally the 3-4 NT is a 2 gap plug the middle type guy. Even though he excels at his position in the 4-3 or the 3-4 I would like to see a bigger guy like the long shot Mike "Man Mountain" Jasper or a bulked up Torell Troup play the middle and have Kyle Williams and Marcell Dareus at the end positions. Â Can you imagine a defensive front left to right of Dareus, Jasper and Williams?!!?!? I am skeptical as hell but throw in a healthy Merriman on the edge....MY GOD! Forget about it!!! Â Â I like it...But Jasper is a long way from making this team, let alone cracking the starting line up. If he does actually pan out, that would be one beefy line... I would guess there would be a better chance of some rotation as opposed them all being on the field at the same time, but it is certainly a different roster at that position now... Edited August 2, 2011 by Turbosrrgood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Guys prepare differently for the combine than they do for training camp. The combine is all about numbers, not playmaking. They want to get faster in the drills for the stopwatches to increase their measurables and get drafted higher. If he was 319 at the combine it's easy to imagine he is 343 now. Â That said, by the time the season starts he will probably be 330 or so. He moves very fast for a guy his size. Me thinks we gots ourselves a studly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I like it...But Jasper is a long way from making this team, let alone cracking the starting line up. If he does actually pan out, that would be one beefy line... I would guess there would be a better chance of some rotation as opposed them all being on the field at the same time, but it is certainly a different roster at that position now... My guess is that they put Jasper at just under 400 lbs. He's likely more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsnutt Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Why is it anyone makes a big deal about listed weight for these guys?? we all know by now that the listed weight is much lower then the actual weight... "listed" weights for lineman are all make believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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