Coach55 Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 ...the amount of underneath crossing patterns that are being run in OTAs. There seem to be a ton. These are classic Andre Reed type plays and would love to see them back as they can be big gainers when you clear out the zones. I don't know why these were non-existent in the Jauron era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 ...the amount of underneath crossing patterns that are being run in OTAs. There seem to be a ton. These are classic Andre Reed type plays and would love to see them back as they can be big gainers when you clear out the zones. I don't know why these were non-existent in the Jauron era. Agreed. Jauron didn't believe in running pass patterns where the WR could catch the ball on the run and break big chunks of YAC. It was probably too dangerous for him. Jauron's ultra conservative offense preferred the WRs to catch the ball at a dead stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrFishfinder Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 ...the amount of underneath crossing patterns that are being run in OTAs. There seem to be a ton. These are classic Andre Reed type plays and would love to see them back as they can be big gainers when you clear out the zones. I don't know why these were non-existent in the Jauron era. I doubt Jauron knows, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 ...the amount of underneath crossing patterns that are being run in OTAs. There seem to be a ton. These are classic Andre Reed type plays and would love to see them back as they can be big gainers when you clear out the zones. I don't know why these were non-existent in the Jauron era. Running underneath crossing patterns is hard in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Running underneath crossing patterns is hard in the NFL. And so is winning LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 ...the amount of underneath crossing patterns that are being run in OTAs. There seem to be a ton. These are classic Andre Reed type plays and would love to see them back as they can be big gainers when you clear out the zones. I don't know why these were non-existent in the Jauron era. He hadn't gotten to that chapter in "NFL offenses for Dummies" when Schonert spilled coffee on it, prompting his firing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossage Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 How about captain make an easy throw for a decent gain instead of captain checkdown? Terry Bradshaw always used to ask the rhetorical question, what is the best route? The crossing pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Players wouldn't like Jauron as much and he might not be thought of as "a really nice guy" if me made them catch balls in the middle of the field. Plus, he couldn't figure out how to get TV installed there so the players wouldn't get bored during the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Just an FYI: the underneath bubble screen was Naaman Roosevelt's bread & butter at UB. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 for being as good as secondary coach as jauron was, it is completely mind blowing that we couldn't call offensive plays that would catch secondaries out of position and call plays against their weaknesses. it's a complete embarrassment that he coached 3 NFL teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoobydum Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Agreed. Jauron didn't believe in running pass patterns where the WR could catch the ball on the run and break big chunks of YAC. It was probably too dangerous for him. Jauron's ultra conservative offense preferred the WRs to catch the ball at a dead stop. DJ liked the secondary being stronger, which made ST that much better. Offense was not his forte'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 for being as good as secondary coach as jauron was, it is completely mind blowing that we couldn't call offensive plays that would catch secondaries out of position and call plays against their weaknesses. it's a complete embarrassment that he coached 3 NFL teams I agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 ...the amount of underneath crossing patterns that are being run in OTAs. There seem to be a ton. These are classic Andre Reed type plays and would love to see them back as they can be big gainers when you clear out the zones. I don't know why these were non-existent in the Jauron era. This is the pattern that made Wes Welker a star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBills Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Agreed. Jauron didn't believe in running pass patterns where the WR could catch the ball on the run and break big chunks of YAC. It was probably too dangerous for him. Jauron's ultra conservative offense preferred the WRs to catch the ball at a dead stop. or catch the ball 5 yards pass the line of scrimmage and jump out of bounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 This is the pattern that made Wes Welker a star. I think Josh Reed would have really thrived playing on a team that used him in that role. He is tough enough to go over the middle and can run after the catch. The Bills simply abandoned those crossing patterns the bast 8 or so years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heels20X6 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 or catch the ball 5 yards pass the line of scrimmage and jump out of bounds....on 3rd and 15... FIXED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharper802 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Agreed. Jauron didn't believe in running pass patterns where the WR could catch the ball on the run and break big chunks of YAC. It was probably too dangerous for him. Jauron's ultra conservative offense preferred the WRs to catch the ball at a dead stop. But wait accoring to this board I thought Lee Evans was the one calling the plays and refusing to run accross the middle. I'm confused.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 How about captain make an easy throw for a decent gain instead of captain checkdown? Terry Bradshaw always used to ask the rhetorical question, what is the best route? The crossing pattern. This. If Edwards is too conservative to throw the medium-range routes, then an underneath crossing route is an ideal remedy. At least he wouldn't be checking down to Spiller/Jackson/Lynch behind the line of scrimmage and forcing them to make a play just to gain 3 yards. He might as well start with a 5-yard gain and let the receiver get a few more. Plus what Dr K said - Wes Welker has turned into a fantasy star because he's open 7 yards down field and makes a move to gain an extra 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe Northern Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 If Edwards is too conservative to throw the medium-range routes, then an underneath crossing route is an ideal remedy. At least he wouldn't be checking down to Spiller/Jackson/Lynch behind the line of scrimmage and forcing them to make a play just to gain 3 yards. He might as well start with a 5-yard gain and let the receiver get a few more. This is exactly right. Whether you think the problem is Trent or last year's idiotic offensive system, you have to realize that that timed passing routes not only play to Trent's strength, but also make a hell of a lot of sense when you field the worst pass-blocking line in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Just an FYI: the underneath bubble screen was Naaman Roosevelt's bread & butter at UB. PTR Man, you got that right, PTR! I'll stop now. People around here have a tendency of getting too upset when you are pro-Roosevelt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveydanceswithwolves Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Running underneath crossing patterns is hard in the NFL. it is also the hardest route to cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In-A-Gadda-Levitre Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 But wait accoring to this board I thought Lee Evans was the one calling the plays and refusing to run accross the middle. I'm confused.... excellent post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperKillerRobots Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 ...the amount of underneath crossing patterns that are being run in OTAs. There seem to be a ton. These are classic Andre Reed type plays and would love to see them back as they can be big gainers when you clear out the zones. I don't know why these were non-existent in the Jauron era. Because we never had competent offensive leadership. Or maybe our leadership was just offensive... (badum bum chhhh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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