Wilson from Gamehendge Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 http://www.thebillsbeat.com/Buffalo_Bills_...aspx?article=40 How would they know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 http://www.thebillsbeat.com/Buffalo_Bills_...aspx?article=40 How would they know? They don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 They don't. If it's true then the site should get kudos, if not.....they should be crushed. This sheer need to be first to report something is way out of hand from the amatures to the pros (espn etal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR8PRKN Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 They don't. The Ravens are apparently comfortable that they can replace Jared Gaither at the right tackle position after former first round pick Michael Oher officially was named the Ravens right tackle on Friday. Exactly!! Wasn't Oher named the Left Tackle??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Dubious at best, but what the Hell, there's not a lot going on let's play. What does the Board think of the reported price tag for Gaither? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 It was written yesterday and is merely, I think, going off everything else you've read here from various sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhg Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Dubious at best, but what the Hell, there's not a lot going on let's play. What does the Board think of the reported price tag for Gaither? 2nd round pick is too high to give up for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 2nd round pick is too high to give up for him. I see so many scream take an unproven LT in the first, but don't spend a 2nd on a proven LT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Same report as yesterday, they are totally making it up. Plus there are spelling errors galore AND read the "About Us" page on that site. Its pretty hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 I see so many scream take an unproven LT in the first, but don't spend a 2nd on a proven LT? unfortuately you get the whole package with Gaither in addition to his experience at LT, you get his bad attitude, bad work ethic and desire for a huge new contract maybe he will be better than the last 2 OL that got huge money deals maybe not but the Bills have not left themselves any real options since they have continued to ignore the OT positions with their premium picks for the better part of 2 decades typical Bills fans reaction - though run a bonafide proBowl LT out of town, but welcome a lesser talent who has a much worse track record of being a malcontent and slacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 unfortuately you get the whole package with Gaither in addition to his experience at LT, you get his bad attitude, bad work ethic and desire for a huge new contract maybe he will be better than the last 2 OL that got huge money deals maybe not but the Bills have not left themselves any real options since they have continued to ignore the OT positions with their premium picks for the better part of 2 decades typical Bills fans reaction - though run a bonafide proBowl LT out of town, but welcome a lesser talent who has a much worse track record of being a malcontent and slacker What exactly is his "much worse track record of being a malcontent and slacker"? Ozzie Newsome and Jim Harbaugh saying they don't like his effort and work ethic after they picked a LT prospect to replace him in the draft? How does that compare AT ALL to a guy holding out until absolutely the last minute and then giving a half-hearted effort the rest of an entire season, all after the team had already renegotiated his deal (a deal he signed) once already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Time to bring you guys back into the realm of reality. Gaither is a lazy bastard. The Ravens thought enough of him to draft Oher, with all intentions of replacing Gaither at LT. Then, prior to the draft, the Ravens openly have a 'for sale' sign on this lazy bastard , and later say they were just trying trying to jump start the afore mentioned lazy bastard, because he's a lazy bastard. Then, the Ravens claim he got the message that they think he's a lazy bastard, and now he's no longer a lazy bastard. Thank you Jesus. Why would the Bills waste any pick, let alone a 2nd on this lazy bastard. He's going to want left tackle money. Hmmm... I think the Bills just went through a similar situation with a left tackle that was already under contract. Plus we already went through a lazy bastard in Mike Williams. Be careful what you wish for. Lately, Maryland has been churning out lazy bastards... far from filling their potential... Vernon Davis, Darius Heyward-Bay, Jared Gaither, and now Bruce Campbell. The Bills FO is smarter than this.... I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Dear Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Didn't the Eagles give us a first and sixth for our "greedy and lazy" pro bowl LT last year? If we get Peter's replacent for a 2nd, then we made out in the deal. Especially if we sign Gaither to a lesser contract than JP got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPhan Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 http://www.thebillsbeat.com/Buffalo_Bills_...aspx?article=40 How would they know? This trade is an absolute no-brainer win-win for both teams. The Bills Beat looks like a nice Bills source of info, although I have no idea what credibility it has. Even if Gaither is not quite up to being Pro Bowl left tackle level yet, he is still young and is the best LT the Bills would have had in camp in God knows how many years. To trade a 2nd round pick from next years' draft for a LT with his NFL experience and potential is like stealing for Buddy Nix, in my humble opinion! So I am hoping that the Bills Beat really is the first source to get this trade rumor RIGHT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitzShowUsYourTitz Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...r=1&id=4682 Bills RCB Leodis McKelvin is reportedly unavailable for a potential Jared Gaither trade. Rumors of a Gaither-to-Buffalo trade persist. Adam Schefter shot down a report of a second-rounder going to Baltimore, and we've also seen one scenario that has Ashton Youboty going to the Ravens. McKelvin, however, is staying put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Same report as yesterday, they are totally making it up. Plus there are spelling errors galore AND read the "About Us" page on that site. Its pretty hilarious. Looks like the pollyanna sunshine pumpers will finally have a place to go to when they get tired of all the negative neds on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...r=1&id=4682 Bills RCB Leodis McKelvin is reportedly unavailable for a potential Jared Gaither trade. Rumors of a Gaither-to-Buffalo trade persist. Adam Schefter shot down a report of a second-rounder going to Baltimore, and we've also seen one scenario that has Ashton Youboty going to the Ravens. McKelvin, however, is staying put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. OTM Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 I really hope this happens and happens soon. Gaither would need to get in their and learn the system, along with all the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 If it's true then the site should get kudos, if not.....they should be crushed. This sheer need to be first to report something is way out of hand from the amatures to the pros (espn etal) Interestingly, Gaithers did not practice yesterday!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPhan Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Time to bring you guys back into the realm of reality. Gaither is a lazy bastard. The Ravens thought enough of him to draft Oher, with all intentions of replacing Gaither at LT. Then, prior to the draft, the Ravens openly have a 'for sale' sign on this lazy bastard , and later say they were just trying trying to jump start the afore mentioned lazy bastard, because he's a lazy bastard. Then, the Ravens claim he got the message that they think he's a lazy bastard, and now he's no longer a lazy bastard. Thank you Jesus. Why would the Bills waste any pick, let alone a 2nd on this lazy bastard. He's going to want left tackle money. Hmmm... I think the Bills just went through a similar situation with a left tackle that was already under contract. Plus we already went through a lazy bastard in Mike Williams. Be careful what you wish for. Lately, Maryland has been churning out lazy bastards... far from filling their potential... Vernon Davis, Darius Heyward-Bay, Jared Gaither, and now Bruce Campbell. The Bills FO is smarter than this.... I hope. You are quite the "expert" on lazy bastards. There is one basic problem with your "ass"-sesments of those players. They are all very young and early into their NFL careers. You might want to watch Vernon Davis this season. My guess is that nobody will be calling him "lazy" as he begins his second full season under Mike Singletary. And why would you write off Heyward -Bey so soon? Now that the Raiders have someone with the arm and experience to get him the ball, he may just lose his "lazy" moniker this year too. And as for Gaither, I hope like hell the Bills make the trade and get him in here in time for the first mandatory mini-camp. Despite being the "lazy bastard" you labled him in Baltimore, he still was the starting LT for a playoff team that kicked the crap out of New England in New England, and although he may have missed that playoff game due to injury, (I don't remember if he played or not in that game), he still helped the Ravens win enough games during the season to get into that game in the first place. Now that's the kind of experience the Bills need. And in todays' NFL, injuries are more and more prevalent. Just ask Erick Wood. You want to call that kid a "lazy bastard"?? Yet he went down with a season ending injury himself. In a "battle" with Demetrius Bell and our new kid "the Wanger", I'll put my money on "lazy bastard" Gaither any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Same report as yesterday, they are totally making it up. Plus there are spelling errors galore AND read the "About Us" page on that site. Its pretty hilarious. Yea, the immediate turnoff for me was the first line stating that the two teams have an agreement in "principal". As we all know, a principal is the head of a school. Did they mean "principle"? Or was it a deal struck in the principal's office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Time to bring you guys back into the realm of reality. Gaither is a lazy bastard. The Ravens thought enough of him to draft Oher, with all intentions of replacing Gaither at LT. Then, prior to the draft, the Ravens openly have a 'for sale' sign on this lazy bastard , and later say they were just trying trying to jump start the afore mentioned lazy bastard, because he's a lazy bastard. Then, the Ravens claim he got the message that they think he's a lazy bastard, and now he's no longer a lazy bastard. Thank you Jesus. Why would the Bills waste any pick, let alone a 2nd on this lazy bastard. He's going to want left tackle money. Hmmm... I think the Bills just went through a similar situation with a left tackle that was already under contract. Plus we already went through a lazy bastard in Mike Williams. Be careful what you wish for. Lately, Maryland has been churning out lazy bastards... far from filling their potential... Vernon Davis, Darius Heyward-Bay, Jared Gaither, and now Bruce Campbell. The Bills FO is smarter than this.... I hope. Vernon Davis had 13 TDs last year and 965 yards. How in the hell do you consider that a bust? Gaither has been a beast every time I have seen him play. Heyward-Bay is in his second season (it usually takes 3 years for a WR to develop), and Campbell has yet to play a game- what are basing the "bust" label on? Your crystal ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 If it's true then the site should get kudos, if not.....they should be crushed. This sheer need to be first to report something is way out of hand from the amatures to the pros (espn etal) Agreed. No accountability with the world wide interweb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 unfortuately you get the whole package with Gaither in addition to his experience at LT, you get his bad attitude, bad work ethic and desire for a huge new contract maybe he will be better than the last 2 OL that got huge money deals maybe not but the Bills have not left themselves any real options since they have continued to ignore the OT positions with their premium picks for the better part of 2 decades typical Bills fans reaction - though run a bonafide proBowl LT out of town, but welcome a lesser talent who has a much worse track record of being a malcontent and slacker Much worse than Peters? Are you kidding me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Looks like the pollyanna sunshine pumpers will finally have a place to go to when they get tired of all the negative neds on this board. Just wonder what took Mr. Logan so long to realize that the coaching staff was going to get canned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastRochBillsfan Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Dubious at best, but what the Hell, there's not a lot going on let's play. What does the Board think of the reported price tag for Gaither? I feel, IF Gaither isn't lazy and IF he isn't unmotivated, and IF he won't break the bank, he would be well worth a second round pic. With that being said, that's a lot of ifs. I do have to question baltimores motives for for wanting to get rid of him. I think, with all the information that has been out there, that I would rather go for jamaal(sp?) from the Saints if he is healthy and ready to go. I get the feeling that gaither is another Peters in waiting. unfortuately you get the whole package with Gaither in addition to his experience at LT, you get his bad attitude, bad work ethic and desire for a huge new contract maybe he will be better than the last 2 OL that got huge money deals maybe not but the Bills have not left themselves any real options since they have continued to ignore the OT positions with their premium picks for the better part of 2 decades typical Bills fans reaction - though run a bonafide proBowl LT out of town, but welcome a lesser talent who has a much worse track record of being a malcontent and slacker Can't disagree with most of your post, however, "RUN a bonifide probowl lt out of town." Are you serious?! He RAN HIMSELF out of town. This has been hashed to death on this board. i was one of Peters biggest fans till he pulled the crap he pulled and am glad he's gone. we made out just fine in that deal. Ask all the philly fans what they think of their PROBOWL left tackle. Looks like the pollyanna sunshine pumpers will finally have a place to go to when they get tired of all the negative neds on this board. I am not sure what a "pollyanna sunshine pumper" is, but it does sound like the opposite of negative. I consider myself a positive person and distance myself from overly negative people. but I , for one, ain't going nowhere. There's only a handfull of you overly negaitive and pessimistic ones on this board. Maybe YOU GUYS should go start your own doom and gloom site and leave this one to the glass half full guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 If this is all legit, then yes, a 2nd for a league regarded, top player at his position is a good & fair deal. I'm just so psyched over what I've seen with the new regime and they're approach to the Draft, that I don't want to lose any picks for these guys, let alone a 2nd! But if it makes us very competitive early on, then go for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonian-at-Heart Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 2nd round pick is too high to give up for him. hahahahahahahahaha, wow, you can't be serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conch Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 IMO - this would move this years draft grade from C- to B+. We have a young, proven, capable starter at LT Exciting home run RB RB & LT make each other more effective Finally the OL has a little depth Starting NT Future started at DE Only thing missing is a young Brett Favre. Could that be Levi? -- nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMaxx Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 unfortuately you get the whole package with Gaither in addition to his experience at LT, you get his bad attitude, bad work ethic and desire for a huge new contract maybe he will be better than the last 2 OL that got huge money deals maybe not but the Bills have not left themselves any real options since they have continued to ignore the OT positions with their premium picks for the better part of 2 decades typical Bills fans reaction - though run a bonafide proBowl LT out of town, but welcome a lesser talent who has a much worse track record of being a malcontent and slacker Umm, Gaither, by all measurables, is BETTER than Peters. And to be quite honest, if u want to find the perfect player, with no bad attitude, not wanting a huge deal, not wanting to be traded...your following the wrong sport, bc the chances are highly unlikely to find that perfect player at each spot. Gaither for a 2nd rounder makes a lot of sense, proven top end talent and solidifies our Oline. its our biggest need, and if the QB's dont work out this yr, u draft one in the first round next yr cuz the pool is deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntjacks79 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 unfortuately you get the whole package with Gaither in addition to his experience at LT, you get his bad attitude, bad work ethic and desire for a huge new contract maybe he will be better than the last 2 OL that got huge money deals maybe not but the Bills have not left themselves any real options since they have continued to ignore the OT positions with their premium picks for the better part of 2 decades typical Bills fans reaction - though run a bonafide proBowl LT out of town, but welcome a lesser talent who has a much worse track record of being a malcontent and slacker +1. If the Bills give up a 2nd rounder here, maybe they can get 2 1st rounders for Lynch? Seems to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 2nd round pick is too high to give up for him. Whaaaat??? The Bills should be jumping at the chance to get this guy for a 2d. He provides significant and immediate help in 2010 at the position we are most in need of help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonian-at-Heart Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 unfortuately you get the whole package with Gaither in addition to his experience at LT, you get his bad attitude, bad work ethic and desire for a huge new contract maybe he will be better than the last 2 OL that got huge money deals maybe not but the Bills have not left themselves any real options since they have continued to ignore the OT positions with their premium picks for the better part of 2 decades typical Bills fans reaction - though run a bonafide proBowl LT out of town, but welcome a lesser talent who has a much worse track record of being a malcontent and slacker First off you can't associate the past of the LT position on the current GM. Just because he didn't like any of the Tackles in this years draft at our draft positions, doesn't mean he had anything to do with Peters or that he's ignorant that we need a LT. Look at it this way. Would you trade Peter's and a second for Wood and Gaither? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 IMO - this would move this years draft grade from C- to B+. How does a draft grade change based on a player signed in Free Agency? A draft is graded by the quality of players, not whether they fill a perceived need by an internet message board. This trade would highlight the incredible stupidity of trying to grade a draft by need because the team may have information not available to fans on a message board or the less informed staff of ESPN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 How does a draft grade change based on a player signed in Free Agency? A draft is graded by the quality of players, not whether they fill a perceived need by an internet message board. This would highlight the incredible stupidity of trying to grade a draft by need because the team may have information not available to fans on a message board or the less informed staff of ESPN. This guy is wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Time to bring you guys back into the realm of reality. Gaither is a lazy bastard. The Ravens thought enough of him to draft Oher, with all intentions of replacing Gaither at LT. Then, prior to the draft, the Ravens openly have a 'for sale' sign on this lazy bastard , and later say they were just trying trying to jump start the afore mentioned lazy bastard, because he's a lazy bastard. Then, the Ravens claim he got the message that they think he's a lazy bastard, and now he's no longer a lazy bastard. Thank you Jesus. Why would the Bills waste any pick, let alone a 2nd on this lazy bastard. He's going to want left tackle money. Hmmm... I think the Bills just went through a similar situation with a left tackle that was already under contract. Plus we already went through a lazy bastard in Mike Williams. Be careful what you wish for. Lately, Maryland has been churning out lazy bastards... far from filling their potential... Vernon Davis, Darius Heyward-Bay, Jared Gaither, and now Bruce Campbell. The Bills FO is smarter than this.... I hope. That "lazy Bastard" was the 11th rated LT out of 76, and infinitely better then the coming off a torn ACL horrid playing Bell, or the holding machine currently on the roster at the RT position. Hell, he is rated better then the last lazy bastard who made the pro bowl at LT for the Bills. Not only that, he was the LT on one of the very best pass blocking / run blocking teams in the NFL last season. I'm glad the Bills won't value your opinion should they give up a #2 for the guy... the only question is will the Bills offer him enough $$ to make him happy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 How does a draft grade change based on a player signed in Free Agency? A draft is graded by the quality of players, not whether they fill a perceived need by an internet message board. This trade would highlight the incredible stupidity of trying to grade a draft by need because the team may have information not available to fans on a message board or the less informed staff of ESPN. Isn't that the problem, especially as it applies to the Bills situation? Jauron left the cupboards pretty bare. The Bills don't have a plate, fork, or knife sure; but, it's not like they can't stand to replace the topless salt shaker, the bent spoon, and the broken bowl that was duct taped together (elegantly to some standards), as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobesBLO13 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 If it's true then the site should get kudos, if not.....they should be crushed. This sheer need to be first to report something is way out of hand from the amatures to the pros (espn etal) I don't know why but that statement made me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 I don't know why but that statement made me laugh. Don't be negative Nobes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Or was it a deal struck in the principal's office? Perhaps that's were the author was when he wrote the article... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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