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How in the hell did Nathaniel Hackett become an NFL head coach?
DrDawkinstein replied to eball's topic in The Stadium Wall
McVay was young, but he never coached college. He was tied to Kyle Shanahan's offense (father, HC Mike Shanahan). And it should not be forgotten that Sean McVay's grandfather was Jack McVay, Head Coach of the Giants in the 70s, and GM for the 49ers through the 5 Super Bowl run in the 80s-90s. So yes, lots of nepotism. The issue being that nepotism rooted in a time when the league was only hiring white coaches. This is how systemic racism gains and keeps momentum. To many outside observers taking things at face-value today, you could certainly say "This is merely nepotism!". And that is mostly true. But like it or not, those strings of nepotism go all the way back to times of racist hiring. So still racism at the core of the problem. -
I was born in the 60's and as a young person use to work every summer on farms to make money & had to mow & rake the lawn plus do chores around the house then we would help local farmers that were both friends and family put up hay every year for their animals in the winter we too had gardens to keep up with so would could can veggies every year . Now that i am much older IMPO i feel that the US has become a country full of a bunch whiny ass lazy entitled people of all races that feel just because they live in what is the best country in the world feel they are entitled to nothing short of the best of every thing some thinking that it all should be free to them also that will in no way other than going to the gym break a sweat to make a living they should have it with out working for it . Sure there are some still out there willing to work for it but for the over all majority not so much . If you go to a job sight look for the fat guy or gal either sitting in a air conditioned office or the pick up truck with the air conditioning on & he or she is usually the boss while (not to be racist of condescending in any way) the biggest part of the work force is immigrants & for the most part of spanish decent because they aren't afraid to bust their ass unlike a lot of todays Americans . Which is in part one huge reason why those in power continually want illegals to come in because Americans are to dam spoiled & lazy to get off their preverbal asses & work for a living if you don't believe me just go around any large town or city & look at how many Now Hiring signs there are and how many are standing on a street corner pan handling . Seems as though all the graduates today look to do computer type careers or lawyers (just what we freakin need another lawyer) there are little to no young people that have access to learning a trade or willing to sweat to get there . We have become a country full of entitled spoiled rotten individuals for the most part not all but most that don't want to or won't work for what they want & expect it should be given to them ! Use to be health care was a perk something given to those by the company to those that were exemplary employees now weather you work or your entire life goal is to fleece the system every one is expected to get all the entitlements . Use to be social security was something you could put money into as a retirement fund but now ALL weather you are a citizen or not can get their hands in it once agin thank you to our lovely gov't politicians for that !! Some get free rent, electricity, food stamps, water & sewer, while they drive around in their fancy cars with their cell phones which OMG every ones got to have one of those now a days & also if you don't have the internet HOLY S**T the world is gonna come to a end WTF ??? Then the worst thing about it is that the politicians the ones that the entitled spoiled rotten Americans elect into office continue to just give all of this and more in promising this stuff in order to be selected for some up to 50+ yrs in the gov't then we all (well some) wonder why the US is in debt one our heads & it just continues to get worse & worse . But we will continue to appoint these jack asses that can't even balance their own check books & give away things like hypodermic needles welfare & other things freely that a lot of these folks don't need & with a little bit of watching these folks it could be found out who were fleecing the system & who actually needs it . Oh (and this one will piss off some people i'm sure) there are those today that feel that they are due reparations because of a ancestor that they never knew or cared about until they heard the word "Reparation" that was a slave & actually knew what real racism was not the watered down or exaggerated version of what it is today in some cases . I am in no way saying for those of you that will misconstrue that last statement that racism doesn't exist today because it does but i am saying that in a lot of cases it is & can & will be blown out of proportion to make others feel it is more than it is in some instances . I say that because i've been told this by people that i consider friends that grew up around the time i did that have told me that these younger folks today feel they are discriminated against & scream racism but have it so so easy in comparison to what those of a different era did those that actually paid the price for those today to have it as easy as they do yet they still cry & whine instead of as it has been said go out & JUST DO IT !! I feel that we have seen civil war as recent as a couple years back when the so called "Peaceful Protest" were going on & those wing nuts stormed the capital & i feel that given the way our gov't wants to keep us divided we can't see as a people that we would be better off United that it will get worse before i t gets better . There are so many people that we could look to that we could draw inspiration from yet we tend to look at those that just want to stir the pot & cause divisions i won't mention any names but i'm sure we all have our own thoughts on that but the US as a hole is still the greatest country on the planet but dammit there is there a ton of bad that has come from that entitlement attitude we have adopted instead of the working for it that the country use to have . I pray that it will get better but i don't see it in my life time as long as the "I'm a Entitled American" mind set continues it will never get better . So slay away all of you out there that disagree i'm sure there will be some hateful reply's but this is just one old guys opinion & in todays world i'm sure the woke crowd will come out in full force to cancel me if they read this & have any opposite opinions which hey have at it we are all entitled to one thing & that is our own individual opinions !! Be blessed !! GO Bills !!
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From Dawg Pound to Bills Mafia - Browns Fans Leaving for the Bills
K D replied to wppete's topic in The Stadium Wall
Yes good distinction thanks. I just keep thinking back to the OJ case because that was the first trial I had ever seen and it was someone I had heard of and how it really rocked my world with all of the factors involved. I couldn't wrap my head around the fact that someone who had clearly just murdered 2 people was found innocent. But the high priced defense attorneys created DOUBT in the jurors minds: 1. Yes it's true that racism exists and Rodney King had happened among other things so maybe the cops were racist? 2. If the glove does not fit you must acquit! Wow, that's all it took for the jurors to doubt the events. I remember thinking you can get away with anything then. How do they convict anyone? I suppose this system is better than "you are guilty now prove your innocence" or "you are guilty because I said so" but clearly there are some shortcomings and just because you are found "not guilty" doesn't mean you are innocent. -
Critical Race Theory
reddogblitz replied to Trump_is_Mentally_fit's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Great speech. Nailed it. Two points especially. Telling minority kids they are oppressed is a self fulfilling prophecy. The other is what I've thought for a long time. The vast majority of people are not racists. They don't care what your skin color is. Its the government, the court system, and people and politicians making hay out of it that are. Of course there is racism in America, not saying there's not. -
No more pretending. CRITICAL ETHNIC STUDIES COME TO OUR SCHOOLS FTA: So Critical Ethnic Studies is now required to graduate from the St. Paul public schools. Its precepts are no secret: [Course concepts will include] identity, intersectionality, race, dominant/counter narratives, racism, white supremacy, racial equity, oppression, systemic oppression, resistance and resilience, social/youth-led movements, civic engagement, hope and healing, and transformation and change. The ultimate purpose is to turn young people into racist, America-hating social justice activists. Important context for this effort is the fact that the St. Paul public schools are absolutely terrible. Catrin Wigfall explains: According to 2021 Minnesota Comprehensive Assessment (MCA) test results, 16.6 percent of 8th graders in the [St. Paul] district are proficient in math. Less than 32 percent are reading at grade level. This class of students will be the first required to take CES in order to graduate. So the teachers’ union intends to turn out graduates who are largely unemployable because they can’t read or do arithmetic, and who are primed to blame their failures on “systemic oppression.” It is a great formula for social unrest, which the union explicitly desires to promote. Indeed, St. Paul students will be taught that blacks can’t possibly succeed: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/04/critical-ethnic-studies-come-to-our-schools.php
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Brian Flores suing NFL, NY Giants, Dolphins, Broncos.
reddogblitz replied to BillsFan4's topic in The Stadium Wall
I have to question if the NFL HC hiring practice is systemic racism and here's why: The founder of Critical Race Theory Joe Feagin says: https://www.thoughtco.com/systemic-racism-3026565 So when I hear that there is systemic racism in NFL HC hiring the first question is OK, how many do we have? 1 or 3 is on obviously low compared to racial lines (14% Black). But I seem to remember recently we had more. So I looked back the last 15 years starting in. 2006. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2006/coaches.htm 2006 - 7 (Super Bowl between teams led by Black HC.) 2007 - 6 2008 - 6 2009 - 5 2010 - 7 2011 - 8 2012 - 5 2013 - 3 2014 - 4 2015 - 5 2016 - 5 2017 - 7 2018 - 7 2019 - 3 2020 - 3 2021 - 3 Note: I did not count Ron Rivera or Robert Saleh. I also didn't count interim coaches even though there have been several a la Perry Fewell. The avg was 5.25. >14% 5 years were <14% including the last 3 The real question for me is what changed in the last 3 years? Why was the NFL HC hiring within racial lines and suddenly now is not? I'm sure there is some racism going on cuz its everywhere. But as far as being systemically racist per definition, it doesn't seem to pencil out. -
Brian Flores suing NFL, NY Giants, Dolphins, Broncos.
HamSandwhich replied to BillsFan4's topic in The Stadium Wall
I should say the common parlance of our times, being systemic racism. Your explanation is fair and as objective as it can be given that a lot of what you’re talking about is subjective. The fact that you’re investigating and really thinning trough it rather than just jumping to a conclusion should be commended (not that you need my affirmation). All too often people seem to jump to conclusion and want tk immediately say racism or systemic racism as a lazy way out without investigating what’s actually happening. This causes policies like “disparate impact” policies in work places simply because there is an inequality, even if it wasn’t racist to be used to sue an employer because of the way things shook out from that policy (My hr background talking here). Basically they say the system is racist and that’s what’s happening rather than looking at root causes and making sure. It is in fact human nature to be around people that make you feel comfortable and I think you’re right that it’s not that they’re racist, just that they want someone first who can get the job done and most qualified and then that will mesh with the organization the best. As long as you’re basing that on individual personality, that is all above the line. I would contend it is about personality, but if it were to be found racism was a big part the process (would have to be clear, which I don’t think this is nearly clear) then of course throw everything at them as harshly as possible. I actually think you and I are very close if not spot on in our thinking. How do you flesh out the thoughts a person has and keeps hidden though? I hope we never get that answer because that would be a truly dystopian world, think Minority Report. Racism is a consideration but only one of many different reasons why, not the forefront of every reason. -
Brian Flores suing NFL, NY Giants, Dolphins, Broncos.
benderbender replied to BillsFan4's topic in The Stadium Wall
Assuming the Flores lawsuit is correct and the NFL is knowingly allowing racist hiring practices, wouldn't the easiest solution be to have the Saints for example offer him a job? Just how much credit are we giving the NFL? They're just smart enough to set up a sham system of diabolical racism, but too stupid to think one step ahead? Hubris is one thing, but avoiding a drawn out investigation and bad press is another. -
Trump Congratulates Corey Stewart
Thurmal34 replied to Thurmal34's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Not one person in this thread had criticized the President for congratulating an open racist. Instead they have criticized the person that pointed it out. Think about it - the America we live in makes it easier to criticize the person calling out racism than the person sitting in the system and not pointing it out. -
I'm definitely saying that the statistics don't support the cop claim, and I've yet to see a truly compelling argument in support of systemic oppression in today's America...I mean, remember that we are, in fact, talking about a controversy that started in a league that pays thousands of black men millions of dollars to play a game for a living. The data seem to indicate that an individual's choices are what determines their life course, not skin color. Nobody is arguing that racism doesn't still exist, because evil people still exist. But the number of actual racists is far, far, far lower than what some would have you believe. We live in a time when simply disagreeing with someone of another race gets a person labeled a racist (but, oddly, it's usually not the person in the discussion that does the labeling). For me, it comes down to this: knowing how this all started, when I see Kaep's sitting during the anthem boiled down to "he's fighting racism and injustice", I think it's a crock.
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I think the breakdown is that people (like Burleson) want to use the end resault to prove the issues. Instead of addressing those peripheral issues (which do need to be addressed where they exist) there are people who hold up Vance Joseph as an example of a racist coaching system. Im absolutely fine with condemning institutional racism where it exists, but I don’t see it in the examples that drove this thread. As to your question- same way I feel about guys like Andy Reid and Bill Belichick being given second chances. It can end well, or poorly. Those teams suffered for their poor choices and most of them are still suffering. Meh, Wilkes is questionable but he definitely didn’t do anything to inspire. I find it hard to argue racism there because the same people that hired him last year are firing him this year and going through the headache of hiring a new coach. Just a bad hire, or so it would seem.
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I've been saying it for a while, but since Trump was elected they really went into overdrive. The current Democratic agenda is two-pronged: Racism and gay rights. Fighting racism and for gay rights is not something I have a problem with. However, I find the tactics democrats are using to be beyond loathsome. Gay rights: I was all for ending DOMA. It is NOT the governments place to say what is and what is not moral. It is not their place to make law on judeo-christian beliefs. I fully supported ending DOMA and thought once done so the fight was one. Boy was I wrong. They literally started making things up afterwards, like the horribly oppressed transvestites. Why? Because Democrats want everybody to believe that if they're not a democrat they're a bigot. That's why Kevin Hart is being attacked for not bending his knee and becoming an LGBTQ9erAAFNFLMNOP ally. They demand you bend the knee, accept their agenda, or they'll brand you a bigot and go after your money. That's what they always do -- they harass sponsors of Tucker Carlson, and Limbaugh in an effort to intimidate and silence. Gays represent about 3% of the population -- why do they represent so much of the Democrats agenda? Well, really they don't. They dems just talk about them a lot to spread intimidation and force their socialist agenda. The gays are just a weapon of theirs now. And I gotta say -- while I supported ending DOMA I also support letting gays know that theyre only 3% of the population and therefore aren't that important. I'm sorry I'm more concerned with the security of the nation, and the economy than I am the feelings of a pansexual. Racism: Every white liberal is tripping over their own dick to get DNA tests in the hopes that they're in some way 1/1024th non-Caucasian. Why? They've established an accepted belief system that whites are responsible for all evils in the world, and that anything non-white is therefore more pure. So, every liberal is trying to find a way to identify as a victim. It's unbelievably shallow, and un-American. Further, the media is going crazy anytime they have a cell phone video of a white anything doing anything stupid. I mean seriously, how are high schoolers from Wisconsin worthy of front page news for "possibly" making a nazi salute? How's that "news?" It's not. A few days ago a 7-year old black girl was killed in Texas. Immediately liberal idiots were trying and hoping that it was a hate crime of sorts. In fact, the only thing I see in the news these days that labels a suspect as anything is when a person is white. Recently I read how a 14 year old girl in England was raped while shopping by a man with facial hair, dark skin, and curly hair. They wouldn't even say "middle eastern." This is absolutely ridiculous. This is "full retard." And what's disgusting is all the people who flock to it like a moth to flame. I fully believe that modern liberals would tell ISIS executioners that they're sorry for all their white privilege as their heads get severed. What's the main problem? The main problem is that Democrats are branding anybody who doesn't bend the knee to their ideology a bigot and a racist. Want to enforce borders? You're a racist. Have an issue with a 40 year old transvestite using the stall next to your 12 year old daughter? You're a bigot. They are literally bullying American's into blindly accepting and not questioning their politics because nobody wants to be called "bigot" or "racist." Then their masses are ignorantly supporting their socialist agendas. This has nothing to do with racism or gay rights -- they're just hiding their damn socialist agenda behind those fronts. And it's working. They're running the MOST successful fear campaign I've seen in my short life. And whats worse is its success and their socialist visions of the future. And we have a complicit media helping them transform the country into a horrible hell. Winston said it best when he said: “The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.” /rant
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Tyrod Taylor has 'nothing but love' for Buffalo
WideNine replied to wppete's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I find myself defending Gugny - ugh Look folks, this is not going to be resolved here - maybe the mods can move this to another forum as it is good to discuss. Does racism exist - of course it does, but it is not just white's who are racist - there are plenty of blacks and more races and cultures beyond our narrow USA focus. Work long enough with global companies and you can find disdain and stereotypes for other races, cultures, and religions all over the world. I was on the phone with a black manager back in November discussing some problems we were having getting to done on some things with our new team from India, and he literally said "monkey-see-monkey-do"....in reference to how coin-operated they tended to be. I damn-near dropped the phone. Not that I ever would, but had I said such a thing and had I been overheard I would have been unemployed that same day - yes, I am the dreaded white guy who can never have a clue - trust me, you don't know me, don't know where I grew up, how much money we had, or what skin color my friends were - so don't jump to any prejudice opinions right out of the gate (guarantee you would be wrong). There is a double-standard that I have run across with black folks in the States where they believe that they are somehow immune and exempt from the propensity to have pre-judgments (prejudices) born of fear and basic human nature when confronted with race, social, or religious groups that are different from them. I have worked enough, and visited India enough to know how poor folks are there. The remnants of their caste social system is alive and well, and women (although present) often are treated as if they do not exist in the meetings I chair - until I crush that attitude. That being said I have met many good folks that work very hard and I consider them friends, and I have met some who have lied and cheated and tried to "get over on me" just as much as other races - its a human thing apparently (imagine that). When the team from Bangalore that I am currently working with wanted to see pictures of my house with my Christmas lights up, they were floored that I have such a small family living in such a huge house (I don't live in a mansion). I can't speak for Gugny, but I don't have any hate for Tyrod, but his comments were inappropriate and are part of the problem here in the States and not part of the solution. Most of all they did not take into account the fact that his own limited performance may have been the factor for decision-makers at OBD moving on. It was small-minded, and a stereotype perpetuated by a victim-complex mentality that gets in the way of individuals looking in the mirror and asking themselves what they could do to be better at their chosen profession - whatever that is. It is much easier just to blame others and racism than being able to accept that perhaps others are better at playing a position in football than you are. He was hurt, maybe even setup by the reporter (got to be smarter in this day and age of 1st amendment suppression of everyone - because SURE people can solve things by NOT talking about them), but it is a stretch to think that the coaches and decision makers who had gone on the record for being proud of working with Cam Newton and wanting to find a QB with similar abilities wanted to move on because of the color of his skin. They saw a crop of QB's coming up in the draft and they felt that those prospects had a higher ceiling than Tyrod - no conspiracy, no race card, simply evaluating ability to take this team farther and needing the draft picks to make it happen. Ask yourself, would it have been racism if Cam Newton 2.0 was available last year and OBD moved up and took that person in the draft? They sort of did, as Josh Allen has a lot of traits that Cam had coming out, cannon of an arm, can move around, a bit raw at the position - he just isn't black. Not really the right forum for all this, but a good thing to discuss and air out. And although I do think I have seen the ceiling of Tyrod's abilities, I do think he is better than more than a few starting QB's in the league and hopefully he gets his shot with another franchise that needs to an upgrade to that position that they cannot address via draft. -
thanks for sharing your story ive studied this topic on an amateur level for decades (also married and divorced a crazy black woman) and man are you correct by my estimation, black folks over-estimate instances of racism by AT LEAST 400%. that means for every 1 time they really do have do endure some racist white !@#$ being a dick, they are CREATING four more racist instances in their heads some guy cuts them off in traffic: racism. some guy doesnt nod hello as he walks by: racism. some woman clutches her purse tightly in a mixed crowd: racism. some guy votes for a blowhard charlatan: racist no wonder most black folks see racism everywhere ... they are manufacturing most of it in their minds as we continue to work hard to erase as much of the old-timey white racism as we can, we have to remember black folks have their powerful biases as well. that includes this dramatic over-estimation of perceived racism, as well as wide spread bias against whites that for some crazy reason we still hesitate to call racism true but lets keep in mind we as a culture just spent the last ten plus years mercilessly broadbrushing heartland whites as virulent racists by default. i grew up with those ppl, most of them indeed were horribly racist back around 1970. but that slowly improved over the next couple decades (too way too damn long) and finally flipped over about 1990. since then most whites absolutely have NOT been racist. we still saw a lot of racism simply bc theres 197 million whites to 38 million blacks, but the fact remains that whiteness FINALLY overcame their roaring bias (took them waay too long) as a percentage of population amazingly, since then its been an almost non-stop attack against whiteness as being 'racist by default'. in case you havent realized it yet, this is what fueled the election of an incompetent buffoon, a sea of pissed off ppl sick and tired of being labeled automatically racist when they know they (mostly) werent so bottom line is white ppl have a little bit of hyper-sensitivity on the issue right now, as we saw in this thread. give it some time, it will pass in due course once they get it out of their system
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I just think the whole size of government thing means you are closer to totalitarians is silly. The slaves lived is a system of totalitarisim but that was a small government system. Racism is what connects Nazis to the far right and seeps into some mainstream Republicanism too I would argue. Trump's pardon of an obvious racist probably won't cost him many votes. But we shall see
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Emergency Team Meeting - Regarding Trump comments?
TakeYouToTasker replied to boater's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
You're making a pretty strong case that the Federal Government shouldn't be involved in the Amber Alert system, assuming your right about the lack of real impacts from a shut down. Really, it's an argument that everything that was shut down is wasted dollars that the Federal Government shouldn't be spending, because shutting those things down didn't matter. Is that the argument you're making? You absolutely can, and should characterize the Klan based on what it is now, when what it is now is having the actual impact. Nearly everyone whom the Klan of the 1950s and prior impacted is dead today. That Klan is irrelevant to the conversation. Which is fine, because it's the only relevant comparison. Both organizations are racist at their core. Anything beyond that is an acknowledgment that you find one group's racism acceptable. -
Emergency Team Meeting - Regarding Trump comments?
TakeYouToTasker replied to boater's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
There isn't any racism in the way minorities are treated by law enforcement or the justice system. There are certainly individual racists, but there is no systemic racism. The whole concept is largely manufactured by a grievance industry who take political profit from race baiting, and manipulate statistics to tell a lie towards those ends. "None of your problems are your fault. There is a white boogie man out there who has stacked the deck against you with a goal of making your life worse for no other reason than your skin color. You are hereby absolved of your sins. Now please vote for me." -
What Would Jack Kemp Do?
TakeYouToTasker replied to Bleed Bills Blue's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
The first two are not because of racism. The first point, we don't all start off equally, applies to every person on the planet. It's simply reality. Some people are born smarter, or with better over all genetics. Some are born the child of Bill Gates. None of that is due in any way to racism. The second point, black Americans have a higher likelihood of starting off further behind because of prior injustices from decades past and because of perverse incentives created by the welfare state, is due to racism from the past by people who are mostly dead now, and because of a system that rewards poor behavior with money for the purpose of creating a permanent underclass as a voting block. Summed up very succinctly by Lyndon B. Johnson: "I'll have those n*****s voting Democratic for the next 200 years."; soft-slavery is perpetual multi-generational dependance, which serves to hold a group of people in a perpetual underclass by making their chains fit softly upon their wrists. It started off with the desruction of the black family, but is no longer isolated to minorities. It is the marginalization of the black male (now all males). It is the handout that replaced that paycheck which made the marginalization of men possible. It is the incentivization of these same behaviors, generation after generation, which normalizes, and removes the shame. But most importantly, it is the slave masters, using these humans for nothing more than their votes, much like the Southern farmer in his field. Again, this was started along racial lines, but now extends into all racial groups. The third is in no way racial. It is hard truths. These truths apply to all races. Black two parent families have much better odds of being in the middle class than single white parents. The fourth breaks down on racial lines, but is not racist. There are no white racists out there forcing black people to have children out of wedlock, nor are there white racists forcing black men out of high school. This is a major cultural problem that black Americans have to solve for themselves. It cannot be done for them. The fifth and final point is absolutely not placing an undue burden on black people. In a free society we are all required to own our decision making. The freedom to make a good decision is also the freedom to make a bad decision, and there is nothing inherent to having more melanin that makes blacks less capable of good decision making. They are just as smart and as capable as their white counterparts, and they have agency. Again, much of this is due to a cultural problem with an upside-down value system as relates to being successful and escaping intergenerational poverty. -
Kaepernick and the National Anthem
OGTEleven replied to 26CornerBlitz's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
From the article, I think he is coming from the right place with his intent and he is trying to be measured, but this is the kind of thing I was talking about and I don't think it is productive unless he is open to listening. I'll try to give some examples. That is the very first sentence of the article. He later cites a specific case but one in which the person shot was actually armed. I get his connection given his home town and am not too worried about that one error if it were isolated. What does bother me is him saying "by the police" instead of "by police". The whole premise of the protest is that police are categorizing people into groups (which of course they should not do). He doesn't even get out of his first sentence and he has done the same thing. There are hundreds if not thousands of police departments nationwide. "The police" paints them as monolithic. I wouldn't like it if some police chief said some like "this is how we plan on dealing with blacks" or "the blacks". I can understand if he thinks there is a problem with the Baton Rouge police, or the Chicago police, or something more specific than "the police". In general I will give him the benefit of the doubt here because I assume there was limited space for the article, but systemic oppression and the other things listed need to be defined, articulated specifically, and validated before they can be fixed. If not, just about anything can be attributed to them. A dialogue about this should always be on the table but both sides need to be willing to listen. If blacks are being arrested at a higher rate, that is a valid data point and a reason to start a discussion, but it is not proof of anything. Skin color may or may not be a determining factor in those numbers. Clearly it has no place in being a determining factor and if it is one, that should be eliminated. But anything that is in need of elimination needs to be defined. It's not an easy task for anyone on any side of this argument and no one side should assume it is easy for the other. I'm 100% with him on this and am glad to see they took there time and put thought into how to structure their protest. I have to differ here. Kaepernick has shown intentions that are not necessarily in line with what one would call the best. The pig socks, Castro praise and Che t-shirt make me wonder how much of the pervious quote Kaepernick would share with Reid. Free and fair society with free speech? Che? That makes no sense at all. Maybe I don't agree 100% with Reid on that quote because he shouldn't be baffled at the backlash that came after those statements by Kaepernick. His girlfriend equating the Ravens owner with a slave owner is probably not the most constructive thing I have ever heard. A discussion involves more than one way communication. It is not fair to expect Reid, Kaepernick or anyone else to fully comprehend arrest and shooting statistics before saying something. But it wouldn't be fair for them to ignore these statistics either. Because the truth is the truth. Sometimes we know it all but most times we don't. It isn't right to assign cause to the unknown parts so that it matches your agenda. We all do this all the time and always have (I didn't do my homework because that teacher is mean to me and would have just given me a zero anyway). Those who really want a solution to a problem need to move toward a solution. Personally, I don't think pig socks is an indication of someone who wants something solved. Racism will go away when racists are seen for what they actually are, which is groups of idiots. The best way to deal with idiots is to ignore them. Systemic issues in law and policing can be written out. A racist cop or a racist perpetrator cannot be. They need to be dealt with individually and that is not going to happen all at once. It can't, as much as we'd all like that. Assuming the cop that shot Michael Brown was a racist pig and ruining his life over it does not move us toward any worthwhile goal. -
National Anthem (Cameron Jefferson)
TakeYouToTasker replied to bmur66's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Then you're an enabler and a hypocrite. You're more than willing to sit here condemning others, but completely fail to take any responsibility for your own lack of action when you had the opportunity because it was too hard. And no, I don't have any racists in my life. The fact that astounds you speaks to the company you're willing to keep. And yes, you can do exactly that. You simply choose not to, and then blame others for the worlds problems. People are judged on everything. What I question is that it's evidence of systemic racism. -
National Anthem (Cameron Jefferson)
TakeYouToTasker replied to bmur66's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Of course there are actual racists and actual racism. Case in point: Kelly the Dog's friend. Had that been me I wouldn't have rested until he was ruined, especially working in government. That was an individual racist, and a very solvable problem, as are most individual instances of racism. What you're asking me to believe is that racism is absurdly wide spread, deeply systemic, and is a major driving factor in the employment market. Stop projecting. And no, I'm not being an ass. You had the opportunity to help people and actually take down an actual racist who was doing real harm, and you did nothing, yet here you are casting stones about. That's on you. -
National Anthem (Cameron Jefferson)
TakeYouToTasker replied to bmur66's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Dumb thing to say, but in no way indicative of systemic racism, or even racism in the officer who said it. In a vacuum, sure. But nothing exists in a vacuum. It's far more likely that this officer was deescalating a situation using sarcasm. Because he's a human being, and human beings do things like that. Was it stupid? Absolutely. Especially in the current environment where victims are afforded hero status, and social justice warriors are finding racists under every rock. But actually racist? Highly unlikely. Hence the problem with the protests. If this is your evidence of a systemic problem, I have good news for you: your problem doesn't exist. -
Tyrod Taylor held to higher standard bc he's black ?
Rob's House replied to Game Manager's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
There's a big difference between a handful of randos having an opinion and having systemic institutionalized discriminatory racism. If he's lying awake at night because a few senior citizens and some internet trolls have racist opinions he should grow a sack.