Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

I read they moved the Browns Giants game in week 15 to Sunday night, replacing Dallas V San Fran. A little surprised as San Fran still has outside chance and Dallas brings a big TV audience

See Wyatt Teller is now on Covid list

Actually I am surprised as Mayfield also had 4 TD, slightly better RTG and QBR and roughly 40 yard less passing and slightly lower completion percentage, but still just above 75%. I also thought they'd give it to Mayfield as very close between the two and just to spread the award around some. Glad Allen won it as from what I read never been won 3 times prior within one season by a Bill I'm imagine Browns fans are complaining how Mayfield got robbed.

Younger legs. May also be as a rookie he hasn't figured out yet how to pace himself and realize when he needs to sit out a play?

What a waste of roster spots, not one of these guys played even one offensive snap!! They are all lazy! Where's Chuck Bednarik when you need him? So I assume the ST snaps played by many of these guys is on punt returns as most of the times they are in a regular base defensive set, the one exception being Roberts replaced T Johnson. Edmunds, Klein, and Hyde must have been on the field for that last on sides kick attempt too as that gave their number a slight bump. D Johnson is the one regular ST player though wonder if his numbers will drop off if he starts playing more regularly or maybe he'll become the next Lorax.

You really wonder why some sports get bad ratings. The NCAA puts most of the games on CBS until you get to the Final 4, then lets move them to TNT cable only. Hockey was another terrible one, recall years back once you got to the playoffs one game would be on USA, then the next day ESPN, seem to recall 3rd network doing some of the games too. These days make it easy, for the most part very few games on at all other than home cable network.

Per Operations.NFL website To determine home-field priority among division titlists, apply wild card tiebreakers. TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM Three or More Clubs (Note: If two clubs remain tied after a third club or other clubs are eliminated, the tiebreaker reverts to step 1 of the applicable two-club format.) Apply the division tiebreaker to eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tiebreaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two wild card participants. Head-to-head sweep (applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others) Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four Strength of victory Strength of schedule Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed Best net points in conference games Best net points in all games Best net touchdowns in all games Coin toss #1 we're beyond as only one club per division tied #2 doesn't work as Pitt didn't play KC #3 all tied #4 doesn't count as not a minimum of 4 games #5 So does this mean the Bills win the tie breakers because of strength of victory? Strength of victory is the composite record of the teams that the team in question has defeated. Kind of makes sense the Bills would win that one as played the AFC & NFL west while Pitt played NFC east and AFC south and KC played AFC east which besides Bills and Miami isn't that strong and NFC south which again has two good and two weak teams though would think the last 4 games on the schedules of all three of these teams could change that?

If you promise to go with him, then I'm all for it!

But states you have to have a minimum of 4 common games, I only see three games we have in common. Chiefs are 3-0 2 wins against Denver plus Bills; Pitt 1-1, Beat Denver, lost to us ; Bills 1-1 lost to KC, beat Denver So then goes to Strength of Victory?? Don't see how as all three would have a total of two conference losses, Bills to KC and Tenn; KC to Miami and Raiders; Pitt to Bills and Cleveland. All three have one NFC loss . If the Chiefs loss instead of the Saints was to Chargers, then we'd win it, but the OP listed it as Chiefs losing to Saints as 3rd loss. There may be something wrong with site to as I flipped instead had Chiefs beat Saints, but lose to Falcons and number went down to 97% which is strange as it shouldn't make any difference if 3rd loss by Chiefs was to either Saints or Falcons as both non conference so something weird going on. It's also possible this site never updated changes for this year and thinks the top two seeds both get byes, then it would correct as site is NOT stating we have the overall #1 seed, it's just stating we'd have a first round bye.

The only problem with your logic is if there's a 3 way tie at 13-3 which you're showing, then I don't think the fact that we beat Pitt and lost to KC comes into play as Pitt never played KC. Likely next tie breaker would be conf record which based on your take would also be even, each have 2 conf. loses, then next I believe would go to record in common games which by a quick account KC gets the nod for #1, we'd then drop to #2 though it doesn't appear any of the 3 teams have enough common games to qualify so then may go to strength of victory whatever that means? Think the only was we could get to #1 is KC loses 3 out of 4 and we win out.

Agree, teams may more look for a guy who also has worked wonders with multiple QB's. On one hand you could argue Josh was never expected to do well so doing it with him is extra impressive, though think Allen's improvement is more on Palmer and Dorsey. On the other hand could argue once Allen had the mechanics down, with his cannon arm and size, Daboll's job was easy. Think he'll get interviews but not sure he's a sexy enough candidate to get hired this year. Teams are going to want more than one year proven track record.

Kind of surprised about Steven A as earlier he was praising him pretty good. Recall late last season Steven A going out of his way to admit he was wrong about McD, calling him a good coach, think it was after the Dallas or Pitt game last season. Will be interesting to see who gets AFC player of the week. My guess is Baker as also 4 TD's, better, better QBR and RTG, and almost as many yards. Maybe there's someone else in AFC with even better numbers this week that I'm not aware of but also think they'll give it to Baker as Josh already won it twice this year, I'd imagine they'd prefer to spread it around some. Hard to believe you can say Mayfield is better this season as just about every stat Josh is ahead of Mayfield. Career wise Mayfield is ahead some, but Allen certainly has caught up alot this year.

Yeah read that in an article stating he played every snap. I know the graphic listed Winters and would have sworn I saw him out there early. Guess not.

And not sure he's not that guy. With no pre-season and limited camp and a limited amount of running plays, Moss may become that guy. Look at D Henry, first two seasons did very little, 3rd year so-so, wasn't until last year he became a real stud.

Couple comments: On the 1st drive on the pass to Smith in the endzone that was behind him. Think that was actually a perfect thrown pass by Josh as he threw it to the empty spot. The issue may been that smith doesn't have enough experience as a pass receiver to realize he needed to drift back to the open spot. Allen assumed he'd slide back and if he didn't would be incomplete, but no Int. If it were Diggs or Beasley, they'd likely have drifted back for an easy catch. On the Int by White, watching live I thought the receiver caught the ball, my initial thought was he stopped just short or was it a TD? Never saw that White some how came up with it, even watching the replay in slow motion, was amazed to see how White got that ball. Agree about Knox, played a solid game, he has the skills and athleticism that few TE's in the league have. He was never asked to do much offensively in college, like Allen could take a couple years to develop. Plus with WR on the team and such a strong armed QB, not sure TE will ever become a big part of offense, but knox still provides a legit decoy that needs to be accounted for.

They did force him out of the pocket a fair amount, but he just calmly slide to the side and threw from there. Could consider that as pressure, just wasn't very effective. Half the QB's in the league that would work against.

Why, would be shocked if he's back next year as based on how limited he's played, can't see him wanting to come back and can't see the Bills wanting to pay very much for someone inactive every week. These are the two the team drafted and will go with in the future, if they aren't completely happy could see him drafting a bruiser type RB, but doubt they have plans for Yeldon at all at this point since they haven't yet.

Yeah reading more after I posted that including an entire article about how Ike became the starter, made me think the same. Thought could swear I did see Winters on the field early in the game. I also saw Winters listed on the graphic which made me assume that was the case that he started too.

OK so after I posted this, saw there was another whole "Ike thread" and that stated Winters did start the game on the right side and Mongo on the left, but then they quickly benched Winters, shifted Feleciano over and put Ike on left side. Winters came back in for Mongo when he got nicked up, but that was about it for him. That may have been what I saw was Winters playing at the beginning of game.

No this just doesn't work. You have to instant pro bowl level player or get rid of him. There's many threads here proving this is correct. Just see all the get rid of Bass threads for starters.

OK so Winters started on the right side, Mongo on the left, but then quickly replaced Winters with Ike and moved Mongo to the other side? Was wondering about that as saw Winters started, then didn't notice much till Mongo got hurt, then only noticed came back in on right side.

Wasn't just the Buffalo writers, many here did the same.

Really?? I thought I saw the opposite, Winters started again, then Ike came in when Feleciano got hurt, but then when he came back in, he went to opposite side and they left Ike in??

He came back, but thought I saw they had him playing on the other side and left Ike in instead of Winters.

Didn't realize Louis Riddick's brother was Rob Riddick. Wasn't he the guy who dropped the TD in the playoff game against Cleveland?