Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

Think it's more than a possibility. Without a huge cut in pay, would be surprised if he's back. Likely when the Bills signed Brown to a contract, they were already figuring how in the following years draft which was going to have a deep WR group they'd draft one in the 1st or maybe 2nd round. If they had done that Browns contract would be fine. But once they traded for Diggs, and drafted Davis and Hodgins, think Browns fate is sealed as too much money in the WR grouping even with the rookies.

It got them within 14 points and if the next drive they did score, could have made it 7. If we'd have gone for TD's on those drives and got nothing, we'd have been 20 points behind at the end.

Brown would be great to have back with unlimited money available. But unless he takes a huge pay cut, can't see him back.

Sure but if the TE was catching 7 or 8 balls, that's 7 or 8 less going to Diggs, Beasely and others, If the team was 70 or 80 million under the cap I'd agree, but with limited $$, think there are much bigger needs than TE. Both lines for starters and RB

Sure, but Knox isn't terrible either. 30 or 32 teams would like to have a Kelce

Our defense was bad all year, got a little better 2nd half, but still nothing like past two seasons and overall most of core players were same other than Star. No pass rush all year it seemed, but stat wise, sacks looked good so hard to understand?

So does that mean more completed passes, is Allen going to complete 75% and set an all time record that's never been broken in 100 years?

Watching the game, do you actually feel they would have scored either time. Based on how they looked the only difference would have been instead of losing by 14, they'd have lost by 20. I understand the argument, but tonight the way we played, nothing was being gained by going for a TD other than lose by more.

I agree with RB and D line and also O-line, but TE is the least of the problems. Allen completed almost 70% of his passes. You could add Kelce to this team and doesn't mean Allen is going to complete 75 or 80%. It just means Kelce will get receptions instead of Diggs or Beasley or someone else.

So instead of losing by 14, you'd been happier losing by 20 or 23? Do you actually feel like the Bills could have completed a pass or ran the ball to score? From what I saw tonight, the odds were very low of that happening.

Is hard to explain how/why he looked so much better last season. Not sure if the issue is the run blocking is much worse or something else going on, but entire running game basically doesn't exist?? But agree the biggest things they need to improve in the off season is running the ball and pass rush. Starr should help against the run though we all thought he was horrendous in past years but may have helped more than we realized. But still not enough consistent pressure on QB .

Likely due to Johnson playing ST Likely due to Johnson playing ST

In Kansas City!

The way I see it the Jets are an all around mess in need of a fairly large amount of talent. They have draft picks, but if they end up giving a large number of them up to get Watson, then they may not improve much in other areas. Miami on the other hand is decent all around right now and has draft picks, so if they were to trade for him they'd be a good team now also with a top QB so of the two potential destinations, would prefer the Jets.

So was this what the movie Chinatown was all about? Close to 50 years ago, but... do recall it was all about California water rights.

Around 12:00 was listening to NFL radio and Vic Carruci reported it was Covid so who knows??

Getting my 1st Covid vaccine shot this morning!

Two other guys I put up there in the same grouping for similar type reasons are: Dominik Hasek Many players in sports demand to be traded, and many will also dictate the teams they will only go too. But don't don't recall a player ever telling the team who he's demanding they trade him and to a specific team, but then telling said team, "You better not ask for too much in return as I don't want you weakening the Red wings so that I can't win the Stanley Cup!" 2nd one, as a Knick's fan, Pat Riley. Many coaches will mortgage the future to win now as he did. He traded many a draft pick and young players for older guys with a year or two left max. They came close a couple times to winning ti all, but never quite made it thanks to Reggie Miller and Jordan. But then once he knew the team was over the hill and wasn't going to be able to win the following season, he was owed a bonus of a few million on the upcoming July 1st. The Knick's were one day late in paying it so he claimed they voided the contract and he walked away to Miami and the league ruled in his favor. Those two events, plus Marrone dumping the Bills has left me rooting for failure from them three. So far only one has worked out pretty well.

So tell me what happened to him? Is it injury? Coaching? How can a person go from one fairly high level to where he is now? Reich did do a good job with him so hard to just dismiss that. There's a good chance he could be gone, but think his past success will warrant him one more chance. Guess it may depend on what a guy like Reich really thinks of him.

Or Wentz, though the large contract may stop that All we now is Big Ben to retire too, would be a heck of a HOF class in 3 years, Brees, Rivers, and Ben

Feliciano, Morse, Williams Of these three I think there will be two of them on next years roster. Which two can't say for certain, think the first priority will be to sign Feliciano, next will try to sign Williams, likely at the expense of cutting Morse to free money to sign Williams. If they can't sign Williams, then maybe Morse stays. It's also possible Morse retires too. Either way they line will be short one player even with the return of Ford. I suspect they will draft an interior lineman fairly high, 2nd or 3rd round. Boettger could start next year, but maybe 5 to 6 weeks into the season could see the rookie taking over the starting slot. Regardless Boettger will likely be on the roster as a backup. Maybe Bates also returns as a backup and they also sign an experienced backup too. Would prefer Morse being the odd man out rather than Williams as creates a stronger group and easier/cheaper to find an interior lineman than a tackle. I'd try to draft a lineman with both guard and center experience if possible.

When has this ever stopped anyone here on this site! There's so much expertise here on this site, far more than the coaching staff possesses. Just ask them.

I'm sure it also doesn't help that they are $53 mil over the cap too, only team worse off is the Saints which there's an entire thread on that one. So hows that work out when the dead cap is a smaller number than the Cap hit if you cut the guy?? Fletcher Cox: Dead cap: $21 mil, Cap hit $24 mil. where as: Wentz: Dead cap: $59 mil, Cap hit $35 mil I assume if they cut hit they'd take the whole $59 mil cap hit?

And Irsay made Ralph look like a spend thrift, well at least the old man did. WRT to cap saving I see Brees is listed a cap hit of $36 mil and dead cap of $22.6. For the cap saving do you basically subtract the dead from the hit?

So are the baselines like some type of bran scans or something that is actual hard data that isn't up to a person to tell you what you want to hear? The one thing I read last night talked about symptom free, and headache free all things that a person could just give the answer they want you to hear. Where as if it was some type of brain scans are the baseline, that would be hard to fake out. I have no idea so just trying to understand what is required.