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  1. nope per Brugler and the Beast (extract from the Athletic) 110 career reception with 6 drops - none this season - missed 3 games due to hamstring injury and opted-out of bowl game, all of which pissed the Florida fans off so that ain't right//// Led team in receptions in 2022 (but not 2023)...yards per reception improved over each of his seasons... STRENGTHS: Impressive size/speed athlete … has the arm length that makes some offensive tackles jealous … linear speed to close cushion and force cornerbacks to respect his acceleration … dangerous in the deep third of the field … tracks the ball naturally and adjusts in flight to high-point the football … stabs with focus away from his body (only one registered drop over the 114 combined targets his junior and senior seasons) … ranked No. 2 in the SEC in yards per reception in 2022 (behind only his teammate Ryan Pearsall) … physical stature helps him overwhelm receivers as a blocker … has experience as a gunner on special teams. WEAKNESSES: Tightly wound, and some of the branches of his route tree are stiffer than others … leggy in and out of breaks, causing him to linger or round off his patterns … comes off the line tall and gives defenders a large target to press … doesn’t consistently use his body to shield or frame defenders downfield … has never been known as a YAC threat over his career … clear your schedule if trying to find forced missed tackles on his tape … disappointing career production and never reached 600 yards receiving in a single season in his five years in college. SUMMARY: A two-year starter at Florida, Shorter was the X receiver in head coach Billy Napier’s offense. One look at him and there is no mystery why he had more stars as a high school recruit than a clear-night sky, but he struggled to find his footing at Penn State and was more of a splashy weapon over his three years at Florida. Shorter has striking speed for his size and is at his best when he can stack coverage and create a vertical runway (75.9 percent of his 2022 catches resulted in a first down or touchdown). Though he provides a large strike zone for his quarterback, his contested catch success should be higher with his size advantage. Overall, Shorter is a one-speed runner with predictable route running, but his height/weight/speed mix is uncommon, and his ball-winning potential will tantalize NFL teams. His fit as a back-end-of-the-roster receiver makes him worth the risk
  2. I posted this on my match.com profile....I yell at clouds during commercials while binge watching Fox News
  3. extracts from the Athletic: Joe B - Points out this age, 23.5, which is about a year-older than the average first-round age for Bills under Beane, will be 28 at end of Knox contract... Dane Brugler - extract from The Beast (downloaded to subscribers)...note - youngest of 3 - mom would not let him play football, but played several other sports, led AAU team to national championship, picked-up football as senior in HS, played WR. STRENGTHS: Long, loose athlete with an adequate frame … uses lateral agility and flexible shoulders to quickly release off the line and accelerates into his routes … outstanding focus to isolate the football and catch the ball cleanly … comfortable adjusting mid-air and expanding his catch radius, showing unwavering trust in his ball skills … catches well in stride and stays balanced through contact (eight catches of 25-plus yards in 2022) … quickly collects himself to force overpursuit or make the first man miss (one of only three FBS tight ends with 16-plus forced missed tackles in 2022) … his dynamic speed cuts out of breaks creates interference/holding calls for the defense … willing and functional run blocker … shows the play speed to fit, hook and seal on cross-formation blocks … received positive character feedback from his coaches and was a member of Utah’s leadership council … had a career performance versus USC in 2022 with 16 receptions (on 16 targets) and 234 yards – his 16 catches was the most by an FBS player in 2022 … only Georgia’s Brock Bowers had more catches and receiving yards in 2022 among FBS tight ends. WEAKNESSES: Slender frame for the position and doesn’t have desired bulk … must continue developing his core strength … doesn’t have a strong blocking base and finds himself upright and off-balance … reaches his landmarks, but his body angles are inconsistent when working up a level or pulling on perimeter runs … messy pass-pro mechanics, often overextending, dropping his eyes and losing control … penalized four times as a senior (three false starts, one holding) … will round off his routes and lean into breaks, telegraphing his intentions … missed time as a senior because of multiple injuries, including a shoulder (October 2022) and thoracic injury (November 2022), which also sidelined him for the Senior Bowl and combine.
  4. weak draft class, hoping a quality WR drops (unlikely) or Branch (S) (again unlikely) trying to trade up would only work to get ahead of Balt or NYG if they have a first round grade WR available Would love to trade pick 27 to the Lions for both of their second round picks (48 and 55) giving us 3 picks (59 is our own)
  5. 70s - Patulski, Dokes,Gant - it was the best of times, sex, drugs and rock-n-roll, it was the worst of times on the field 80s - Tuttle, Booker Moore - when Knox left so did the winning until Polian 90 - Williams James (he of the flame retarndant jersey), Flowers - Butler kept the boat afloat and the cigarettes lit 00s - Mcargo, Maybn - after Butler left and broke his heart, old man Wilson did not know and trust anyone without gray hair: Levy, Donahoe, Nix 10s - EJ , Sammy - Whaley Beane Era - not Tre, but Josh, Edmunds, Oliver, Rousseau, Elam - I dont see a bust, but Elam was a reach based on need
  6. the off-season is getting repetetive round here...the off-season is getting repetetive round here the draft cant come soon enough...
  7. this is from last years draft review - the Beast by Dane Brugler from the Athletic... SUMMARY: A two-year starter at Clemson, Spector played weakside linebacker in former defensive coordinator Brent Venables’ scheme. Spector was an afterthought as a safety in the Tigers’ 2017 recruiting class before moving to linebacker and steadily working his way up the depth chart, averaging 6.8 tackles per game over the past two seasons. Spector is a balanced athlete who is comfortable in space and breaks down well on the move to square up ball carriers. Though tough and decisive, he needs to be more patient with his key-and-react and will struggle to consistently shed blocks near the line of scrimmage. Overall, Spector has some safety-linebacker tweener traits, which hurts his potential NFL ceiling, but he is instinctive and athletic, which can keep him earning an NFL paycheck as a backup and special teamer. Considering what Edmunds did and did not do as a first-rounder....I dont see a play-maker (ceiling) or a play-stopper (floor) here ? Do you ? To your point, the 4.6/40 is not too bad, its average at best, but like I said he does not check enough boxes for me to be a starter...
  8. issue is coverage abilities...too slow...7th rounder for a reason...has un-checked boxes
  9. validated by Beane...
  10. Beane also mentioned no other FA visits are planned, other than Rapp coming to get his physical and contract signed after his Hawaii vacation, so unless Campbell has already visited cross him off the list..
  11. Today, as part of the owner meetings in Pho Ariz, Beane ahd a Q&A session with the media replayed just after 5 PM today on WGR radio...he was specifically asked about the thrid round comp pick potentially coming back next season in return for Edmunds big contract elsewhere...he replied that it does matter and that after the "large" Harty FA signing all of the FA adds have been under 2M including todays safety from the Rams....then he directly answered the question about the open Mike position with the usual in-house candidates...we like Dodson , Spector is staying and training in Buffalo, Bernard backed-up Milano last season...will get a look. So expect to fill that position with a cut candidate, trade, or another draft (early ?) to keep that 3rd rounder 2024 draft...oh and think about how they used 18M (edmunds) on several roster adds...pretty much every position but MLB. That being the case, maybe Milano or Hyde or Poyer call the D signals next season instead of the effing new guy (Mike) ???
  12. An athletic subscription can be had cheaper than you think...and the content is darn good...signed a cheap bass-turd McGovern has deceptive size and arm length. Usually with guards, you see them be a little shorter than a typical lineman with smaller arms. But McGovern is huge comparatively. He has a 6-foot-5 frame with over 34-inch-long arms, a length acceptable by offensive tackle standards. And on the film, you can see how the height and arm length impact his game positively as a pass blocker immediately. The long arms help catch the defender even if they worm free, and he combines that with quick feet to put together a lot of controlled pass-blocking reps. But even more impressive is how he maintains that control even after losing at the beginning of the rep. McGovern uses his long frame to get wide and establish a balanced base, combining a perfect blend of maintaining enough balance to hold his ground while not extending his legs too wide to throw himself off balance. Even if he gets bull-rushed and knocked back by a defensive tackle, McGovern’s recovery is excellent, and he appears to be at his best working backward. Harty is a speed merchant. GM Brandon Beane wasn’t exaggerating when he said, “When you just turn on the tape, you can feel speed.” That quickness will force a lot of cornerbacks into playing it safe. Because getting beaten over the top can lead to lost starting roles, Harty gets several opportunities against off-coverage. When they do, his speed and long-ball potential freezes defenders on underneath routes. He generally doesn’t have to worry about deception in his breakdown and can instead do a quick break to his route destination. But the reason he gets those opportunities is because of the long speed.
  13. interesting and insightful...Texans who are the lowest graded overall actuially have 3 units on offense scoring higher than the Bills, which indicates what ??? we have better coaching and a QB that makes up for the deificiencies apparenlty...also glaring issue - no special teams Approx 10% of the game is deveoted to special teams - needs consideration as well and likely elevates Bills score slightly. I do agree that Miami (due to vet acquisitions) and the Jets (drafting) have rapidly improved their rosters and have closed the gap between to the point of expecting close,competetive games...not a bad thing from the entertainment perspective as most where thrilling and dramtatic Point of emphasis - Tua was asked toughest place to play...answer: Buffalo...electric
  14. still have to have a running game presence in this passing era; Philly, SF, Cin, and to a lesser extent KC and Mia....the mix of a power, receptions and speed...plus Lewis fumbles are not a problem compated to Motor...
  15. true...but...minus Daquan Jones and Von Miller our DL is below average and played even lower than that againt Cincy...
  16. no way...check his PFF scores from the past two years, as last year was 40 and that was a 20% improvement
  17. yeah but Doyle and Spencer Brown had higher, elite, almost perfect RAS scores, which apparently can be practiced, improved and refined....so no longer sold on RAS as I once was...still wondering what McD saw or sees in an undersized, injury prone, key position athlete who was taken in the third round....likely ciuz we didnt have a fourth
  18. Beane has to be creative this FA season... teaser: impressive aspect of Harty’s game is his mere 5.3% career drop rate. On 97 career targets in the regular season, he’s only dropped four balls. On top of being a big play waiting to happen, he’s reliable. And the yards after catch stat is just the icing on the cake for him. A Tyreek "Horizontal" Hill catch and run and score: https://twitter.com/Saints/status/1466626187640381440?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1466626187640381440|twgr^1a20c72f3e256451f3942777be57d588bcf777d1|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.canalstreetchronicles.com%2F2022%2F1%2F20%2F22892464%2F2021-was-just-a-taste-of-the-impact-deonte-harty-can-have-for-the-saints Below link to 2021 review some + stats 2022 was a waste and perhaps our gain ??? https://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/2022/1/20/22892464/2021-was-just-a-taste-of-the-impact-deonte-harty-can-have-for-the-saints
  19. Chapter 2 - Josh gets Cashes-In...Bean goes lean on roster and cap...can we compete or do we have to blow-it up....i you think the 2023 cap is a challenge check Bills 2024 cap where top 3 account for almost 100 million....
  20. versatile plays guard this season, backup C possible and likley switches to C next season ? 2,000+NFL snaps and only 2 flags Only 25 - Kromer should elevate a bit more as his run and block grades are average to slightly above
  21. If he gets his price he walks away on all his own, and he gets to pick his successor...NFL avoids conspiracy theory lawsuit and says good riddance...Fox News is the loser here.
  22. indeed Otis Taylor was a star...as a kid this super bowl I watched and I was rooting for the Vikes for no reason other than the Bills sucked and the Vikes won and their uniforms were cool... the Chiefs of that era were full of outstanding players like Otis Taylor well worthy of the HoF or just short and should be in the something special like AFL Hall of Fame ? Vikes 7 total coaches and Chiefs had 10 featuring the nattily clad Hank Stram team blazer, thanks to NFL films...they matriculated the ball downfield by nickel and diming them and of course the 69 Horse Power Trap...both teams OL and DL were star-studded... Super Bowl IV Rosters & Coaching Staffs (hoffco-inc.com) RIP Otis and thanks for the memories
  23. did the link, and went beyond to sheftys twitter page and no such info exists there today and recent past, so I dunno if it was a quote from a show or pod cast but just more rumor as of the moment...
  24. it does not meet the requirement that all threads must mention: 13 seconds - with automatic wins against Bengals and Rams Frazier must go...hourly McDermotts time is up, and we are wasting Josh prime years, with no mention of qualified replacement Dorsey is not qualified to be OC but we dont know who really is other than Rams O assistants..bonus... must never mention that he is star qb choice Beane drafting and free agent DL sucks I hate Diggs because... OL needs improvement, we need to sign free agents we cannot afford, and we should move all tackles to guard. Many Millions Mock drafts...cuz I saw this guy play 1-2 college games plus he looked good against this guy from Bowling Green in the senior bowl so we should trade up for him... Must not pay Tremaine...and fail to mention replacement is also expensive but smaller, slower, older Where is Yolo lately Benford for safety or at least run against Biden
  25. i will settle for him not having to call time out on third and longs every game...while on D.
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