Da webster guy

Far worse had been said about Keenum and Foles I watched the Moore start against the Jets twice because I had money on those games. He came through both times, once he threw 4 td's. Good size, he's a 7 step drop guy, quick release. He zings the ball but doesn't have that Stafford or Jameis spiral, he throws a little wobbly like JK used to. Get him in here! Peterman might beat him and the new rook out in camp for all we know.... Let the competition begin

will always remember the guy fondly, hopefully cleveland has some burner receivers next year and they realize he throws one of the prettiest long balls in the league. We took that away from him this past year and it really killed his game. No Sammy no Goody, basically no deep threats. he is the perfect mentor and backup for the browns new rookie qb, he got us such a high pick in return because of his class and work ethic. happy trails TT

I know right. People get attached to names because of a handful of draft pundits throw them around like they're definitely sure where everyone should be drafted, and it never works out like that. Last year I remember an argument about how Malik Hooker and Mahomes are going in the top 5 for sure, and OJ Howard will be gone by pick #8. Then when the actual GM's who each have multi million dollar scouting teams make their picks, Mahomes drops to 10, Hooker slid to 15 and Howard to 19 (in a re draft he probably goes 119th).

AJ Green is somebody that I was sure was going to be an injury bust based on how skinny he looked in college. I remember saying, unless that dude packs on 20 lbs of muscle he's toast in the NFL. Meanwhile, he stayed skinny and basically torched the entire league for 5 years with above average durability. Also responsible for McD and Frasier's biggest blunder of the year, allowing him single covered with no deep safety help out wide. Easiest 70 yard TD I've ever seen and that was against TreD who's pretty special himself. Put us in a hole we never came out of in that otherwise winnable game.

i don't think there's any chance that will happen but man those are my top two guys I would die to get on our team. Vea is the next Ngata.

that's a fair deal for Goody. Sets him up for life, kind of protects the Niners when he gets hurt, which is likely for all WR's especially him. Wait until Garrapolo doesn't pan out, he's the next Matt Cassel and that salary is gonna kill the Niners structure. Dude had one good game, the rest average at best, and one awful one (bears).

Funny but you can even take it back to the previous year when Rex started Cardale instead of Tyrod against the Jets on the last game of the year. We lost that meaningless game and it moved us up four spots to #10. I seriously doubt Mahomes would have been there at 14, and believe the Chiefs would have found a trading partner at 10 or 11 like they did with us, or possibly Dorsey just stays put. Either way, In that scenario, we don't have two first round picks this year, and have virtually no chance at trading up for a qb without giving away the farm. All from one simple decision to play backup qb's in a meaningless end of season game two years ago.

The beauty is there are 4 or 5 great DT's and 4 or 5 great LB's in this draft. Man if only we had a qb, just sitting tight would be such a perfect move for us in April. A guy like Evans or Vander Esch will be there, but even Roaquan could fall to us. There are always a few dudes that just go in the early 20's that everyone had top ten. That's where you can steal them.

best post yet on the qb sitch

well the trade is over now. Gaines and Watkins had decent years for their teams, are free agents, neither team won a superbowl and here we stand with the Rams 2nd round pick. Unless we botch the pick, we win by a lot.

and his yp carry average has dropped to 3.4, although from what I saw, JVille's Oline wasn't very good. Beaner knows what he's doing, he's cheap insurance, won't hurt comp pick calculation, good pass protect guy and hits the pile harder than most.

Yeah thats pretty compelling. i forgot about that Brad Johnson w Tampa year. Also supporting your point is the fact that we couldn't muster 11 points on the road in Jville despite guys being open in many situations. If we had a solid qb we win that one. i still would be cool with staying put simply because we would have some serious pickings on the board at 21/22 this draft, but I'm assuming Beane is moving on up for the qb and hopefully can get a pair of starters for our D front 7 in free agency or later rounds.

i like this but Preston brown is gone, mcD needs a stud LB to run his D. i'd love to see DT and LB in the 1st, then a vet and best qb avail in 2nd

foles keenum bortles qb's in the conference championship this year, and Reid/Smith got whipped in the playoffs. Obviously qb is most important position, but a killer defense and run game can get you deep into the playoffs.

would be the 1st qb to make it in the big leagues in a dozen years who had a sub 60% completion percentage.

Yup. Interesting draft in the sense that there is no clear cut #1 or even a clear top 5 for that matter. It's an interesting time to be a Browns fan, I sure wish the Texans had traded up with us instead of KC, we'd be sitting with #4 and #21 and the perfect draft to get our QB and DT.

So the stupid draft is still two freaking months away and then another two YEARS minimum until we really know who the right qb's are to draft. My time machine progress is still slow (hint: it's not 1.21 Jigawatts, I already tried) you guys will know when I get this thing to work because we'll draft 7 pro bowlers every year. But seriously, there are some years (like the EJ/Geno Smith year) where the entire nation can't produce ONE single decent NFL qb, and then there are years like this which has potential to put three or more future franchise guys into the league. The odds are probably a few of these dudes flame out completely, a few of them become like Carr or Tannehill decent players, and maybe one or two become stars. I'm scared of too short and not accurate enough--the two things that coaching can't fix. And as much as I love Tyrod's magic feet, I want a pocket guy not a scrambler. Can't we just roll the dice on Teddy Bridge's knee and stay put with two studs at 21/22? He's years ahead of any rookie between the ears, he can sling it, he's 6'3 with a lifetime qb rating in the high 80's. 65% completion rate. Get the kid a knee brace and let's get him in camp baby! We learned from Thurman that knees can heal just fine.

Any player from Alabama, including the big fella. It's a great team defense, but Bama is starting an NFL trend where they have tons of guys drafted but seem to have a lot of disappointments on defense anyway.

The Jax game really said it all for me. I know Benjamin was an idiot for pushing off and backing us up on 1st n goal at the 1, and Clay dropped an easy throw etc. But we know Jax pass defense was overrated (niners and Steelers shredded them for over 40 points late season) and we could only muster 3 points. Throw all the stats in the world at me, I don't care, three points and 134 yards passing is ridiculous. It wasn't like we had no run game or were playing from behind. You can't excuse that.

even when we had Winfield and Clements, I'd still put our d-backs in the category of the best we've ever had Poyer Hyde TreD and Vontae All top notch players. Nice job Beaner.

Groy did well at center, he was retained for that reason. On the other hand, we simply have too many holes in our front 7 that need addressing I just can't imagine not hammering two young first round defensive starters if we stayed put.

The second I see a mock with Bills taking a center I ignore the rest of the guy's picks. We have a solid guy in Groy and a hundred other holes to fill. Mayock was head and shoulders better than anyone in terms of his mock accuracy last year.

Hey as long as the stupid GM's stop calling these poor kids right when they're being drafted and keeping them on the telephone so they miss the best moment of their lives I'll be happy. It's such a Roger Goodell type of thing to do, shows you're out of touch with reality and that the GM or Coach who calls the kid cares more about themselves than anyone else. I'd turn my phone off and hang out in a local bar with my friends and family. You'll have plenty of time to speak with your new coach afterwards.

If he caught that Peterman pass that hit him right square on this stone hands, that whole game might have gone differently. Still mad about that, I'm holding a grudge.

Interesting. Man a free agent qb just makes your team better in a lot of ways when you otherwise have to give up 2 first rounders. There is no way a trade up will involve us giving up our first four picks. Not even close to any trade chart I have seen, unless we wanted first overall which we don't. Also, people that know the team know how well Groy played at center (except for his first game) And how much need we have at DT and LB. No way do we take a center, I don't care how good he is. Too many holes much bigger. Beane is going to leverage his relationship with Gettleman and do a two step trade up to nail our qb. But we'll still have our 2nd round picks when the dust settles, and a shiny new qb.