Jerome007

"Fire the coaches" is often just an easy pretend fix by a team to appease the fans, since it's much easier to do that than to find/hire/trade/draft players! But in this case, coaching, for the playcalling and scheming, is the weak point. If many players feel the same, you just lost your team.

So what do you disagree with my post on exactly, "coach"? That video by Cowherd is spot on. Total scheming and playcalling failure.

For all the player talk, the COACHES should be the main focus of the blame. I ask again this: when has Dorsey mesmerized with good schemes, gameplans, creative formations, etc.? Players have to put in a position to win. Look at other teams for comparisons. Hey, just look at what happened yesterday: sure Burrows, Higgins, Chase are top notch. But they didn't have to be yesterday! Good schemes made them win.

In the past, too much has been made of Diggs' outbursts. Especially since he was right as in those times the gameplan (and Josh) were ignoring him, and he has proven that he delivers when called upon. But yesterday? It sucked. He should have done that way earlier in the game. At this stage, it was just yet other bad element of that meltdown that could leave lasting scars.

Spot on. My worry with Josh was that he would be a good/very good QB but not elite. Teams are kind of stuck with them. Whatever his faults and the haters, he is a Top 5 QB, I'd argue top 3. But McD is the very definition of a very good HC overall, but that lacks a few elements to reach elite status, and year after year those faults remain. I wasn't on board the "fire OC/DC" crowd till yesterday. Now I want them out. Usually, my take is don't get rid of anyone until you find replacements (or enough are available). But this was awful. Losing trust in the coaches is a big no no. McD deserves another year but be on the hot seat. The same for Beane for that awful DLine that got destroyed by backups of an already below average Bengals OLine, If Josh or DIggs have a bad game, or Milano and Miller, hey, they've proven their worth time and time again. When did Dorsey mesmerize with his schemes besides the first few early games? It's almost frustrating seeing the 4-5 easy plays scheming gets the Bengals, Chiefs, 49ers, Rams, etc. while it's seemingly a vanilla offense for the Bills that Josh makes work somehow. The defense has had some games where the scheming won the game or certainly was a amjor factor, but how can they never seem to adjust? We all expected the Bills DLine to take advantage of a banged up, already farirly weak Bengals OLine. So no one can fault the initial gameplan. But since the DLine were pushed around like juniors, change it! Yep, lack of trust in the coaches is a killer. Some changes have to happen.

Josh didn't cost the Bills this game. The coaches and the DLine did. I wasn't on board the "fire OC/DC" crowd till yesterday. Now I want them out. Usually, my take is don't get rid of anyone until you find replacements (or enough are available). But this was awful. Losing trust in the coaches is a big no no. If Josh or DIggs have a bad game, or Milano and Miller, hey, they've proven their worth time and time again. When did Dorsey mesmerize with his schemes besides the first few early games? It's almost frustrating seeing the 4-5 easy plays scheming gets the Bengals, Chiefs, 49ers, Rams, etc. while it's seemingly a vanilla offense for the Bills that Josh makes work somehow. The defense has had some games where the scheming worked but how can they never seem to adjust? We all expected the Bills DLine to take advantage of a banged up, already farirly weak Bengals OLine. So no one can fault the initial gameplan. But since the DLine were pushed around like juniors, change it! As for Diggs, I supported all his previous outbursts as it was dumb to not throw to him. He has proven his worth. But yesterday, his timing was awful. A complete meltdown by everyone and he added to it. That game will leave huge scars.

As if Diggs had been anything else but a proven star for all the time he's been here. And him and Josh work great together. Yeah a few average games (mostly because of schemes than his own play) and he should be out? P.S. Keep your current job.

Who doesn't want that? You don't think Beane and McD REALLY want that? Fans always acting like teams can pick awesome players at will. You know all 32 teams in the NFL are trying to do the same? I'm really POed, it was the most frustrating game I recall in over 20 years. But before firing people, you need FIRST to find great replacements! Edit: but the coaches were baaaaad today. How come the Bengals could scheme a guy like Chase to be so open while the Bills cannot? Same watching the Chiefs, Rams, 49ers, etc. Their coaches "score" some plays. Chase didn't have his TD because he used his world class speed or because Burrows is so awesome. He simply was open and uncovered. Dorsey and Frazier had their worst game. McD and Beane deserve another year but on the hot seat. All that money on the Dline to see what happened today??

To the "fans" already wanting him gone. Yeah with the salary cap, you don't overpay an aging safety, that's true. So he'll likely go elsewhere because he choses to, if he has a better offer. But tell us, you sages, who outplayed him on the roster? No one. Sure this defeat sucks a lot, but before you fire everybody, recall we need first to find replacements for the players and coaches you want out! They are not all lined up on a shelf just waiting to be picked up!

Bengals were 2-14 in 2019. Imagine the same Bills team with ONE dominant OLineman and Von Miller playing all year. And mostly, imagine those same players having coaches doing great schemes for them. And they CAN be Superbowl champs. Today the DLine laying a complete egg and the coaches' schemes were the main reasons for the loss. Not the players overall.

Poyer-Hyde never let a receiver all alone past them. It's crazy how they've been good. So sad to see it didn't pan out this year.

The season was fun. That game today was the most frustrating ever though. It really was. Unless something big happens like a great FA signing, a surprise star coming out of the draft, some OC/DC change for the better, it feels like this team is among the 6-10 best in the league, not the Top 5 as we thought they were. Still, besides the DLine playing crap, the COACHES let the team down today. While those of the Bengals ran a clinic. It wasn't Chase's speed or Burrow that beat the Bills. Their coaches did.

Man that dude was awesome! But he really played bad in these 2 playoff games. I suspect an injury as otherwise he's been so good.

What about the Bills first play on offense? A McKenzie sweep? While the ground is slippery and it's better t o go North-South? Same drive there was a Cook run, again going sideways. 3 and out. Sure those plays can work, but in that weather? Wow Chase all alone was crazy. Outcoached, period,

Get a grip! The Bengals outschemed the Bills coaches, and the Bills DLine decided to have their worst game. But the Bengals had the 11th offense this season, and you saw amazing display of skills? No, we saw great Xs and Os by their coaches, and their patchwork OLine dominated. Bengals are NOT unbeatable, far from it.

Yep. I was NEVER one of those "fire the coaches" guys on here. But I was pissed all game. They were outschemed. Totally. Both sides of the ball. And watching the 49ers, Bengals, Chiefs, etc. you just see what great designs can do offensively. Did Chase score his TD because he out sped everyone and had an amazing grab? NO. He was all alone! So was Hurst many times. Schemes. Movement before the snap. Bunch formations. Creativity. One thing that's all on the players, or on Beane if you really want to go there, is the DLine. How come they were completely outclassed by a patchwork OLine? Still, once you see the front 4 can't do it, blitz! Do something! What bugs me the most of this awful defeat, is that unless there is a big splash in free agency, or a surprise star in the draft, or OC/DC change for the better, it just feels the Bills are among the 5th-7th best teams in the league, but far from the #1. It sucks. As for the Allen haters, sorry for you but the guy is a star and that wasn't on him. The coaches and DLine let the team down.

I hope he is at the stadium today!

That was good ha ha I don't think she did it on purpose on air, but she probably says it a lot off air, hence what happened LOL

Very bad idea...for the Bills. Their OLine was so good last year it felt almost stupid when they passed! Taylor is very good, but that OLine was the star IMO. I don't get how it didn't work out for them this year. I was glad they missed the playoffs last year as they were made to beat the then run D deficient Bills. As for being OC here again, only if Dorsey is hired somewhere else, and if he can let McD, Josh and others provide input for the pass game.

A HEALTHY Jordan Philipps has been a force this year. But this has been just a few games. Hopefully he plays Sunday but he has to be back to form too. I too was a bit shocked that the Bills DLine couldn't overmatch the Dolphins backups. Stunts, occasional blitz, whatever it takes!

I heard moaning for weeks that the Bills had dropped the long pass game. To this week complaining they did it too much ha ha. To be fair, it IS true, just not to the overboard extent some go to.

I don't like to taste it as they do ha ha. And no, the Bills are not that bad at all at this, but there's been a few 3rd/4th and very long converted this year by opponents... and it sucks. Lately, opponents have had more balls and they try to convert, instead of the usual cheap draw plays and checkdowns. Hyde indeed helped to curb this. Bills sure do it a lot to other teams. With Josh's canon arm, the Bills convert a lot as they go for a lot. From day 1 with JA17, 3rd & 6 or 3rd & 15 has been the same.

I don't care that it's a new era. But I sure do that we have an elite of the elite one

Madden said that in boxing if you got KOed you had to be inactive for a month. Obviously ahead than football at that point. But even in football if you get KOed you didn't come back! Kariya did in hockey though...

I agree. But I just don't believe the media line that Tua is done. He might be, but they don't know any more than any of us... including Tua himself. Next season is a long time away.